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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)
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"Oh. No."
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I knew it! I just knew it!
And I can't even be mad about it. The math checks out.
Time to see how the Light compete in the free market of ideas when given a opportunity to show how they would lead.
This is going to go so very wrong. Lol.
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Justice Lord situations are always worse for the planet in the long term then anything Lex Luthor can come up with.
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It's funny how objectively wrong that is. Luthor was full on fucking over the entire planet, nuclear Armageddon, and that's what pushed the justice lords into taking over. After they took over, the planet was not destroyed.
oh Vae, I treasure our time together.
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Did OL seem to stop and break off in his sentences more here? I noticed a lot more triple-period pauses in this chapter then in others. He seemed almost unsure of what he was actually saying and doing.
How badly is the revelation of Earth's true state and the Justice League's actions towards it affecting him to make him this rattled?
How badly is the revelation of Earth's true state and the Justice League's actions towards it affecting him to make him this rattled?
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And thus the Injustice League was born... Just don't call it that. People will get upset.
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You know, I just realized…this is Justice League: doom in all but execution.
Vandal Savage couldn't have come up with a better plan to put the world in a position to appeal to his sensibilities. The only downside is that the heroes are still Alive.
Vandal Savage couldn't have come up with a better plan to put the world in a position to appeal to his sensibilities. The only downside is that the heroes are still Alive.
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No, no, it's like the Brotherhood of Mutants where they apply "evil" ironically.
"We're the Injustice League because we acknowledge that these measures, though necessary to restore the world, are not fundamentally just and should not be celebrated. Unlike some people."
Ah, who are we kidding. The trouble with the Light is that most of their membership are cackling supervillain maniacs, whatever story Lex likes to tell himself and everyone else.
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More like the second iteration, but sure.
I don't think it will be that simple. If Savage does declare war on the Justice League once more, he'll have a much harder time of it due to Paul helping the League cover their weaknesses and become stronger heroes overall. The decisive outcome will be much more nebulous.
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I'd also like to point everyone to the straw that broke the camel's back for Grayven with the Light. Johnny Sorrow, and the risk of the world becoming dimensionally displaced spaghetti.
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But the real question is, did it come with temporally distorted meatballs and antimatter tomato sauce?
Common Sense (part 14)
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Common Sense (part 14)
1st October 2010
20:13 GMT -5
I smile awkwardly, pulling my head away from the celebrant who blows a party blower in my face with a wide grin.
"What's the..? Occasion?"
"You didn't hear?" He looks at me in confusion, searching my face for any kind of deceit. Apparently finding nothing, he continues. "The Justice League finally killed the Joker!"
"Oh! Right, that." I nod. "Yes, I had heard. That-. He was killed."
He pats me on my right upper arm. "Yeah! Killed! How come you ain't smilin' about it? You get dosed with anti-Smilex or somethin'?"
Huh. "Actually, would you consider yourself a representative sample of the Gotham population?"
"Nah, man." He grins. "I don't smell that bad."
"Ah-. Right, yes, but with regard to your opinion on the Joker."
He looks at me as if I've said something monumentally stupid, then gestures in the direction of the landing window. Outside I can hear music, and laughter and screams of excitement.
"Started 'bout the time the announcement happened. Doubt it'll stop."
"So… No concern about a madman being killed by-."
"What, are you-" He frowns, shaking his head in incomprehension. "-his boyfriend or something?"
"No. To quote Will Smith in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, 'I'm the dude that killed him'. I just want to make sure-."
"Who are you supposed to-?" His frown deepens, and he shakes his head. "You're not on the Justice League! There ain't no British-"
Armour.
"-guys onshhheeaat."
"The Justice League assumed that the Injustice League would be keeping an eye on their location. Wonder Woman is my mentor. I was dispatched to deal with the problem at the source." I float slightly off the floor. "I'm just trying to get a sense of how people feel about what I thought could be a contentious action on my part."
He's still staring.
I send my armour back into subspace and land. He's still-. Ring, name?
Jacqueem Fitzgerald.
I click the fingers of my right hand in front of his face. "Jacqueem?"
"Ah. Yeah. Hi…" He blinks, brain getting itself in gear. "Hi… Ah… Sorry, sorry, I don't know who you are."
"It's-" I hold up my left hand so that the face of the ring is facing him. "-Orange Lantern."
"You… Killed the Joker."
"I've got a recording if you want proof."
"You're the guy who killed the Joker and you filmed it?"
"Yes. So do you think that there'll be any blowback-?"
He grabs me by the shoulders. "You're the guy who killed the Joker, and you filmed it?!"
"Yes. The whole thing didn't take long. I just filmed it so that I could prove that he was dead, but I suppose it might be cathartic for some people who he'd attacked before if they could see it."
"I wanna see it." His eyes dip for a moment, and then blinks twice. "Hell, everyone's gunna wanna see it!"
"I set him on fire and then shot him with a railgun. It's not exactly G-rated."
"Well, yeah, the guy dies. But I'm not-" He brings his face a little closer, and I can smell the alcohol. "-talking about a few people getting shown. I'm talking about… Going outside right now and putting it on the biggest fucking screen that you can! Show the whole world that the fucking clown is fucking dead!"
"I'd be concerned about children watching, and-" I hold up the food containers in my right hand. "-I'm supposed to be having dinner with my girlfriend..?"
He gingerly lifts his hands off me. "Okay… Can you give me a copy?"
"Sure. What format?"
"What-? Ah… Something I can play on a phone?"
"Um." What phone-? I connect to the phone in his pocket and create a video file. "There. I'll warn you now-" He pulls it out of his pocket and starts pressing the screen to find it. "-that it's fairly bloody." I start walking towards Paula's apartment. "Have a good evening."
"Hey, ah..!" He tears his eyes away from the screen for a moment. "You should still come to the party. Like… Anywhere. It's your party! Bring your girlfriend too!"
I nod. "I'll see how she feels about it."
He looks down at his phone, up and me, then turns away while staring at his phone and runs up the stairs towards the next floor. He stumbles, falling onto his chest, then scrabbles upright without taking his eyes off the screen.
I shake my head, stroll down the corridor and knock on Paula's door.
Rapid footsteps from inside, then-. Artemis opens the door.
"Arte-."
She steps back, glaring at me. "Get in."
I nod as I follow her inside. Eight o'clock is a little late for dinner. "Sorry for the delay, but I wanted to get a feel for the public response-."
"Everyone's happy. Literally everyone thinks it's a good thing, except Batman."
"And Robin?" We walk through into the kitchen, where Paula is getting plates out of the oven. I put the bags down on the work surface and start pulling the packages out, passing them to-.
Paula reaches out to take one, our hands touching and our eyes-
"Ugh."
Behind us, Artemis quietly gags.
-meeting, and… I'm still not completely sure what to do?
I take hold of her hand and lean down to kiss her. She tilts her head up and-.
"Are we eating today?"
I gently press my lips to hers for a moment, then we part, a faint smile on both of our faces. Paula pulls the container towards her and pulls back the lid.
"Certainly, Artemis."
I return my attention to the bags, rolling the sides of the bags down and quickly freeing the remaining boxes before passing them over.
"I'm sorry I was late. I got tied up with.. the fallout."
"Yes, Artemis said that Batman sent the team to fight the Injustice League. And now the Joker is dead."
I frown faintly. "Ah. Yes. And other members of the League weren't happy about that, and he wasn't happy about me killing the entire Injustice League."
She jerks her head towards me, her face… Unusually still.
Uh? "Is..? That..?"
Her eyes dip, and she shakes her head. "No, but we should talk about it after dinner."
I nod. We probably should.
1st October 2010
20:13 GMT -5
I smile awkwardly, pulling my head away from the celebrant who blows a party blower in my face with a wide grin.
"What's the..? Occasion?"
"You didn't hear?" He looks at me in confusion, searching my face for any kind of deceit. Apparently finding nothing, he continues. "The Justice League finally killed the Joker!"
"Oh! Right, that." I nod. "Yes, I had heard. That-. He was killed."
He pats me on my right upper arm. "Yeah! Killed! How come you ain't smilin' about it? You get dosed with anti-Smilex or somethin'?"
Huh. "Actually, would you consider yourself a representative sample of the Gotham population?"
"Nah, man." He grins. "I don't smell that bad."
"Ah-. Right, yes, but with regard to your opinion on the Joker."
He looks at me as if I've said something monumentally stupid, then gestures in the direction of the landing window. Outside I can hear music, and laughter and screams of excitement.
"Started 'bout the time the announcement happened. Doubt it'll stop."
"So… No concern about a madman being killed by-."
"What, are you-" He frowns, shaking his head in incomprehension. "-his boyfriend or something?"
"No. To quote Will Smith in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, 'I'm the dude that killed him'. I just want to make sure-."
"Who are you supposed to-?" His frown deepens, and he shakes his head. "You're not on the Justice League! There ain't no British-"
Armour.
"-guys onshhheeaat."
"The Justice League assumed that the Injustice League would be keeping an eye on their location. Wonder Woman is my mentor. I was dispatched to deal with the problem at the source." I float slightly off the floor. "I'm just trying to get a sense of how people feel about what I thought could be a contentious action on my part."
He's still staring.
I send my armour back into subspace and land. He's still-. Ring, name?
Jacqueem Fitzgerald.
I click the fingers of my right hand in front of his face. "Jacqueem?"
"Ah. Yeah. Hi…" He blinks, brain getting itself in gear. "Hi… Ah… Sorry, sorry, I don't know who you are."
"It's-" I hold up my left hand so that the face of the ring is facing him. "-Orange Lantern."
"You… Killed the Joker."
"I've got a recording if you want proof."
"You're the guy who killed the Joker and you filmed it?"
"Yes. So do you think that there'll be any blowback-?"
He grabs me by the shoulders. "You're the guy who killed the Joker, and you filmed it?!"
"Yes. The whole thing didn't take long. I just filmed it so that I could prove that he was dead, but I suppose it might be cathartic for some people who he'd attacked before if they could see it."
"I wanna see it." His eyes dip for a moment, and then blinks twice. "Hell, everyone's gunna wanna see it!"
"I set him on fire and then shot him with a railgun. It's not exactly G-rated."
"Well, yeah, the guy dies. But I'm not-" He brings his face a little closer, and I can smell the alcohol. "-talking about a few people getting shown. I'm talking about… Going outside right now and putting it on the biggest fucking screen that you can! Show the whole world that the fucking clown is fucking dead!"
"I'd be concerned about children watching, and-" I hold up the food containers in my right hand. "-I'm supposed to be having dinner with my girlfriend..?"
He gingerly lifts his hands off me. "Okay… Can you give me a copy?"
"Sure. What format?"
"What-? Ah… Something I can play on a phone?"
"Um." What phone-? I connect to the phone in his pocket and create a video file. "There. I'll warn you now-" He pulls it out of his pocket and starts pressing the screen to find it. "-that it's fairly bloody." I start walking towards Paula's apartment. "Have a good evening."
"Hey, ah..!" He tears his eyes away from the screen for a moment. "You should still come to the party. Like… Anywhere. It's your party! Bring your girlfriend too!"
I nod. "I'll see how she feels about it."
He looks down at his phone, up and me, then turns away while staring at his phone and runs up the stairs towards the next floor. He stumbles, falling onto his chest, then scrabbles upright without taking his eyes off the screen.
I shake my head, stroll down the corridor and knock on Paula's door.
Rapid footsteps from inside, then-. Artemis opens the door.
"Arte-."
She steps back, glaring at me. "Get in."
I nod as I follow her inside. Eight o'clock is a little late for dinner. "Sorry for the delay, but I wanted to get a feel for the public response-."
"Everyone's happy. Literally everyone thinks it's a good thing, except Batman."
"And Robin?" We walk through into the kitchen, where Paula is getting plates out of the oven. I put the bags down on the work surface and start pulling the packages out, passing them to-.
Paula reaches out to take one, our hands touching and our eyes-
"Ugh."
Behind us, Artemis quietly gags.
-meeting, and… I'm still not completely sure what to do?
I take hold of her hand and lean down to kiss her. She tilts her head up and-.
"Are we eating today?"
I gently press my lips to hers for a moment, then we part, a faint smile on both of our faces. Paula pulls the container towards her and pulls back the lid.
"Certainly, Artemis."
I return my attention to the bags, rolling the sides of the bags down and quickly freeing the remaining boxes before passing them over.
"I'm sorry I was late. I got tied up with.. the fallout."
"Yes, Artemis said that Batman sent the team to fight the Injustice League. And now the Joker is dead."
I frown faintly. "Ah. Yes. And other members of the League weren't happy about that, and he wasn't happy about me killing the entire Injustice League."
She jerks her head towards me, her face… Unusually still.
Uh? "Is..? That..?"
Her eyes dip, and she shakes her head. "No, but we should talk about it after dinner."
I nod. We probably should.
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I thought Jordan was his mentor in this universe.
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Heh, common sense he may have, but it seems he can still fail a spot check just like anyone else. I mean, people celebrating this hard... In Gotham? What do you think the occasion is?
I expect public opinion is quite in favour of it, and the rest of the Injustice League's deaths...
Besides the ones who habitually end up henching for super-freaks?
I suspect the general opinion on the Joker in the city is 'fuck that guy sideways with a batarang.' And a general confusion as to why the batman hasn't done just that yet.
You'd have to struggle to find someone in the city who hasn't been impacted by at least one of Joker's schemes at some point, I suspect. Those who actually lost someone to his mass murders are probably partying the hardest.
Man, sometimes, you just have to shake your head at the general state of the DC Earth's population.
I mean, the Injustice League were kind of holding the League's members hostage via the vine attacks. 'Don't come after us or we'll get really nasty' or something like that, wasn't it?
Yeah, that'd probably be the average reaction when a guy changes into high-tech battle armour in a flash of orange light in front of you...
Turns out most people are generally happy with it.
At least it doesn't involve a magical transformation sequence. Or worse, a Cutey Honey transformation, complete with full-frontal nudity...
Not surprising, given he's kept a lower profile in this timeline. No giant Christmas cake over Manhattan, for instance.
Heard of Green Lantern? Know what he can do? Now picture that turned against a squishy human or two without holding back.
I mean, it's not the sort of thing he could show on national TV, but...
Yes, do keep up, we're not talking about that bit right now...
...Ah. Well, I don't know if it's fit for general consumption. Then again, I don't know how popular 'Rekt' footage is on their video sites...
I mean, getting hit with a railgun... The effect would be like classic Doom gibbing. Person becomes cloud of red mist and scraps of meat.
...And how does he know you won't spread it about online?
Please, add something to prevent copying or filming, at least...
Hoo-boy. So much for common sense,
Well, for one thing, it means getting publicly outed as a superhero's girlfriend. Anyone films that, it's not much of a jump to identify her and perhaps kidnap her. And while she's fit and healthy, she's still only human.
...That's gonna be trouble. I just know it.
Well, well. Someone else in Gotham who isn't happy. No doubt she's a bit annoyed she can't go out there and join the party.
...Then again, she might have already done her partying and gotten tired of 'yay, the Joker's dead!'
Wow, this is serious. I suppose if one OL could fall for Jade, why not fall for the mother instead?
Channel your inner romantic.
Heh. Yes, please do annoy the teenager with the display of adult romance...
Oh, you just know she let him do that on purpose.
At least you made up for it with excellent food. I mean, he could bring Vietnamese food direct from Vietnam if he felt like it.
To be for, you did make everyone else look bad by how easily you did it. Then again, cruise missiles do tend to remove a great many impediments when precisely applied.
As a former criminal, I doubt she's too torn up about the killing part.
At the least, review the combat footage.
Hoo boy, that video he handed out is going to be all over the internet inside five minutes, isn't it? And then he gets yelled at by Batman again. On the upside, he could probably scrub it from all online sources with one command to his Ring, and apply a virus that deletes any attempt to re-upload it... But still.
At least people are treating the occasion with all the respect it deserves.
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No, Wonder Woman decided after he made killing the Joker a military decision that Jordan(airforce) and Stewart(marines) would be better teachers for him.
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The real question is how the Joker avoids the chair. It shouldn't be Batman's job to kill him. Hell some cops should have pushed him down some stairs. The Joker still being alive is not on Batman.
I liked the explanation that the Joker actually has a subtle regeneration factor that he keeps on the down low making it so he always survives, but it looks like luck. Unless he falls in a volcano or the like then he just shows up again elsewhere without explanation.
I liked the explanation that the Joker actually has a subtle regeneration factor that he keeps on the down low making it so he always survives, but it looks like luck. Unless he falls in a volcano or the like then he just shows up again elsewhere without explanation.
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I agree so much. Batman is already going so far above his civic duty to protect Gotham, it shouldn't be asked of him to go even further.
Every cops, every judges and every psychiatrists that have been involved in the Joker's case, they are the ones responsible.
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I am once again reminded just how much I enjoy Paula and how on the ball she is. Both here and when she spotted Tangseid's early on.
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I had liked the explanation in i think it was the red hood movie or it was a comments section head canon on it discussing the movie. Where joker does get killed by cops but league of shadows brings him back from Lazarus pit cause they use him as a distraction and they did it so many times theirs really no chance of him ever being fixed. And each time they bring him back he starts with the cops that pushed him down they stairs.
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Easy enough to solve.
I'm sure Gotham has a crematorium or two.
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Releasing that video in this manner is not common sense, and not picking up on your ex villain girlfriend having issues with you murdering folks like her ex husband might be slightly more obscure for the relationship challenged but may fall under 'really should have thought this through'
Really needs to work on those communication skills.
Really needs to work on those communication skills.
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At least in this fic it has been suggested, IIRC, that a Lazarus Pit can work with a small amount of material. So presumably the League of Shadows would, in that situation, have some blood samples, hairs, maybe fingers or something from the Joker kept in storage.
Don't know how that gels with more general lore for Lazarus Pits.
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No, just one of his instructors.
No, she asked Jordan to get involved after she found out his age. In the main timeline, Guy got called in a little later.
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Diana was 'military' before Jordan and Stewart's grandparents were born.
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Okay, let's see here. Paragon is with Jade, Grayven is with Artemis Luna, Common Sense is with Paula, Blue is with Zorina, Red is with Blackfire, Avenger is with Hela, Peter Wynne is with Cheetah, Eternia Paul has the hots for Evil-Lyn, Lord Protector is with the cat twins' mother, X-Men Paul is with Rogue, Pull is with Slipstream, Mammon is with Bastet, and Janissary is with Anissa.
Conclusion: Mr. Zoat has a huge fetish for reformed villainesses, dommy mommies and catgirls.
He truly is a man of culture.
Conclusion: Mr. Zoat has a huge fetish for reformed villainesses, dommy mommies and catgirls.
He truly is a man of culture.
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Okay, let's see here. Paragon is with Jade, Grayven is withArtemisLuna, Common Sense is with Paula, Blue is with Zorina, Red is with Blackfire, Avenger is with Hela, Peter Wynne is with Cheetah, Eternia Paul has the hots for Evil-Lyn, Lord Protector is with the cat twins' mother, X-Men Paul is with Rogue, Pull is with Slipstream, Mammon is with Bastet, anz Janissary is with Anissa.
Conclusion: Mr. Zoat has a huge fetish for reformed villainesses, dommy mommies and catgirls.
He truly is a man of culture.
Aha! I knew there was a reason (besides the pedophilia) that Paragon turned down Zatanna!
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The worst thing about RWBY is that Sienna Kahn isn't in it more. Completely wasted character. I'm sure I could talk her around.Okay, let's see here. Paragon is with Jade, Grayven is withArtemisLuna, Common Sense is with Paula, Blue is with Zorina, Red is with Blackfire, Avenger is with Hela, Peter Wynne is with Cheetah, Eternia Paul has the hots for Evil-Lyn, Lord Protector is with the cat twins' mother, X-Men Paul is with Rogue, Pull is with Slipstream, Mammon is with Bastet, and Janissary is with Anissa.
Conclusion: Mr. Zoat has a huge fetish for reformed villainesses, dommy mommies and catgirls.
He truly is a man of culture.
Ephebophilia. And only if they had sex. Otherwise, it would just be really inappropriate.
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No. He's not even sure that it happened, and with everything else going on it's not a priority.