With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

This is probably going to end badly for Paul.

 

Asking what? "Please stop being a raging bitch."?

Should have left her in her friggin coma.

 

"Would you please help to improve the Watchtower defences and weapons systems?"

 

Oh my sweet summer child. They're called furries.

 

If Hinon wants respect, perhaps she should learn how to give it. Why should OL talk to her any different then she talks to him? People talk about OL needing to be knocked down a peg? Personally, Hinon and Dox need it far more.

She talks to OL like he's either an absolute moron, or a tiny bacteria, or something (not even someone) she literally owns.

Pray you never cross paths.

 

None of which are unreasonable.

Hinon is millions of years old and a supergenius while Paul is in his 20s and brain damaged himself by building his soul out of orange light.

 

You say that as if the millions of years old supergenius is not also made out of orange light. Heck, her entire race is made out of one light or another; the Guardians are green, Controllers are now orange after they got the battery, Zamarons are violet, etc...

 

I....I read it....and I just couldn't believe it. A "Wow" from Zoat? Whaw.

If you're doing your best to audition for the newest hit show "Guess who got chucked into the sun?" Then, sure.

Also, it's not "unreasonable" to treat someone as if you literally own them? Um...yeah, kind of is. Pretty much every modern country in the world agreed on that a while ago. Why, even in universe, Slavery is banned in Atlantis.

Age does not entitle you to respect.

Being a genius in a race of natural genius' doesn't really mean much. Also, Ms. Supergenius was a vegetable before OL pulled her out of it.

Also, OL is in his thirties.

Finally, OL's brain is clearly not damaged, you just like making shit up when you don't like something. For the record, OL DID NOT build himself a soul out of Orange light. His tattoos were designed to draw in ambient magic to build something of the kind for defense against magic. Said design was looked over and given the okay by Queen Mera, someone who can lay claim to being an expert in magic.

OL's soul didn't become the Heart of the Ophidian until she body slammed herself into it. Which happened during an exercise that the so called "expert" J'onn completely lost control over, a fuck up that was in no way OL's fault.

Do you even read the story you attack constantly?

 

More likely that was the equivalent of a 'Whoa...' from the rest of us. Or you're gonna get a "Thank you, corrected" from Zoat once he gets online.

This is Vaermina we're talking about. Contrariness is their natural state -no offense intended- and none shall change them. And I'm sure many of us wouldn't change that, since it keeps the threads alive with arguing After all, they are knowledgeable about DC Canon... Even things Zoat has altered...

 

I suspect interference from the Nega-Zoat.

And that's why Sheogorath was the one to get his own DLC.

 

The Controllers' preferred corps would consist of mind-controlled meat puppets. In the comics, they let the Darkstars die because that whole 'free will' thing was getting irritating.

I mean, they literally named themselves "Controllers" as their defining feature, Paul knows of their history, and not only did Paul choose to go to them, but he basically just handed over the entire thing rather than demanding to be in charge.

If he can't deal with being treated like they own him, he picked the wrong masters.

 

Why is everyone against Hinon? All she said was that she didn’t want to do physical labor, which to be fair, she doesn’t care about the Justice League, this isn’t her problem. OL would be the same way. Honestly, she’s acting a lot like OL does, and people are complaining about that? Where do you even get raging bitch? At most she’s grumpy about suddenly getting pulled here despite it not being in her plans. She had no reason to get to Earth, and when she got here and saw what humans pulled with Desire, and that OL somehow knows so much dangerous information, that was clearly meant to be secret, she really did have a reason to be a little angry. She is acting surprisingly reasonable, compared to canon Controllers. Her job is to be the voice of wisdom, but she keeps being blindsided by OL knowing stuff and the center of a man made disaster being displayed not as a somber moment, but as something that really doesn’t matter. No need to be mad about her behavior.

 

Actually their souls are made of white light just like everyone else's.

 

No. Otherwise Paul’s emotion vision would not work. He can tell what sort of light is in a person’s soul. Remember, it looks directly at souls. White light is probably a component - otherwise a person has no life, but Paul’s soul and Hinon’s are made mostly of Orange Light. Though Orange could secretly be a type of White light - or White Light tinted with desire(since canonically, White is a combination of all of them and basic color theory).

 

Hm... maybe tell Hinon about Dark Druid? He uses the Black light directly in this continuity, right? Even had the symbol of the Black Langern corps? That seems like something worth a controller worried about humans getting involved in stuff they shouldn’t be getting involved in.

 

And how are you sure of that, especially when OL just described the desires of Hinon's soul restructuring infront of him?

 

White = Life. People with no white Light are probably dead/ don’t feel alive. Paul is weird - but he does live on a planet with the White embodiment, so he probably absorbed a lot.

 

White light is all the colors combined...

It's like Captain Planet.

Don't you remember the scene when Paul examined her?

 

Basically the question is: How can souls possibly be made of White Light, when they radiate orange (to Paul). The answer is probably: souls aren’t necessarily balanced. They are made of light of various colors, and to be alive, they need some light of every color to combine and make white light. However, they also have spurts of lights of other colors escaping (directed emotion) (what OL sees). Hinon and OL both constantly spurt Orange, so OL sees orange when he looks. However, their souls (and all living creatures who feel more than 1 emotion), are made of White Light, in some cases constantly excreting Orange. The Ophidian doesn’t understand anything other than avarice, and as such, and being an elemental, probably consists only of Orange, and is technically not alive.

 

What about it?

 

I'm not so much denying that their might be at least a little of other colors in there, it's just... Hinon and the other controllers are explicitly connected to the Orange Power Battery, using it as a source of power. And as we've seen from the Guardians, who are immensely willful and stubborn, this definitely affects how you think and act. So in all likelyhood, they have a whole damned lot of orange in their soul.

So to me, it seems a little strange to look at someone who has a soul made entirely out of orange light and call them "brain damaged", and then you look at someone standing right next to them who has a soul made of 97% orange light and call them a "reasonable super-genius".

 

Agreed, also, not certain, but I’m fairly sure his soul also consists of more than just orange light - for example he has shown the ability to love/ have pink speech. His problem is that he is consciously trying to constantly see things through the lens of avarice - though he is capable of not, and has shown to be so.

 

Theory: (probably no canon) Are Leprechauns (if those/that are a thing) connected to the white power battery / elemental? I forget, what are the traits of that color of light? If I were, theoretically, thinking of writing some sort of Omake (probably not, still thinking of content to write), what would they get? Might be funny to have them be the result of some curse. Doomed to only be able to use the white light to create rainbows / protect gold/treasure. Semi-addicted to it’s usage (it makes them feel alive).

 

White power rings has been shown to resurrect the dead, replenish itself by the wearer enjoying ones life, and supposedly do anything any of the seven colors can do.

 

Should we be concerned about Zatanna?

She might be hitting the love juice powers a little too hard.

 

That came out of the blue, now didn't it?

Unless I'm misremembering something, which I might be.

 

I know a lot of people were upset with Hinon for some weird reason, but what did happen with her? Did the watchtower get upgraded? What did she do with Alan? Or are you just not going to cover it due to the strange number of upset people?

 

...a Jewish holy artefact called 'The Ark of the Covenant', but...
(The common usage. There were a few hits on 'Arc', but not many...)
And Yikes, the Angels were not messing around...

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She knows the attitude and comportment which the role requires...

...or we could visit Jebediah and ask him what's going on."

Oh, that's worrying. At least her punctuation isn't colored. Yet.

Very worrying...

Angling for a date, eh?

She frowns for a second, then shrugs, lifting the staff...

Another uncapitalised instance.

...Wasn't that Grayven's thing? Looks like someone else picked up that plot hook. Or did OL actually do it - it has been a while since I've seen that plot thread... I guess Tomorrow will show us.

Probably happening off-screen since it's been less than an hour going by timestamps, so we won't know about it until we see Hinon again...

 

Clarion Call 3, where Paul wanted to go to them for a research project and, as a consequence, found out that Queen Clea had recently succumbed to old age. Judging by the times and time zones of subsequent episodes, he got a missive to deliver to King Orin that the angels might have destroyed in the course of killing him. Unless it was in subspace, and he just forgot because of the whole "being dead" thing.