With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Well thats.. kind of broken. Darkseid is just OP.

 

No, that makes the Anti-Life Equation OP.

Darkseid doesn't have the full Anti-Life Equation in this story, he has a portion of it.

 

Came across a wierd little continuity error. At one point it mentions Zatanna joining OL at the shooting range, and adding a gun to her gear, then later on in the story, they start talking about Zatanna maybe learning how to use a gun.

 

This episode has been a lot of fun. Also, it's crazy to think that I've been following this story for 5 years across 3 different forums.

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Any chance we'll see Johnny Sorrow again? Out of all the villains, his exit was the best.

"The smile on the face of the tiger" is just perfect.

 

Can you give me a link to where it says that?

 

Change "he" to "her".

Change "is" to "his".

Change "if" to "it".

I think you want to add an "or" between "him" and "shooting".

 

Feels a little too passive and thinky for superman. He's a brawler. He should be either trying to wrestle Mr Atom as he thinks, or using rubble to try to shield Hal or something.

It sounds like he's just... floating there, as Diana and Billy do the fighting in the background.
That sort of thing suits Paul, but not Clark.

... what effect would radiation Gasers have on something nonorganic like stone anyway? Other than irradiating it, obviously.
Putting something solid between the brawl and Hal wouldn't be a bad idea, and there's always ice-breath.

 

Ah, Kal-El's turn for commentary.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Yeah, a good guy like Clark will definitely be concerned about collateral damage, especially people. If he's not, then that universe has something seriously wrong with it (looking at you, DCEU!)

Ah, enemies too stupid to change tactics mid-fight. Always handy.

And not make it much fun for his teammates either.

And now we see something many versions of Superman forget: Intelligence.

Too bad he doesn't have working comms. As is, he's facing blabbing his observations to Mr Atom too.

He just tanked a Gamma Ray laser, what do you think, Clark?

Eh, I'm sure OL can patch you up. Too bad Green Rings aren't good at healing, huh?

Ow. That can not have been pleasant, even for her toughness.

Oops. Gotta be careful about accidentally energising an enemy. That's gonna cost him points.

Pain that bad is a rare thing for him to feel, isn't it?

Yeah, thank Batman for the magic pants. The last thing we need is a full-frontal assault...

Another one might be a problem. Best not try eye-beams to the face again.

At least taking off the head means no primary eye-ray source. And probably helps reduce Mr Atom's visual acuity...

Ah, the big, glowing red spot. Strike the weak point for massive damage!

And now the robot knows you know that. He's going to be defending those points harder now.

He's gone from 'Suck' to 'Blow'!

Hoo boy. I know they're talented amateurs, but the League are not making a good showing in this fight. The final score is not going to be pleasant. So... Tomorrow's perspective: Wonder Woman?

Correction:

...armour rather than a joint...

 

I'm enjoying the multiple perspectives here, it's interesting to see how each of them is coping with the wrenches being thrown at them.

 

Will Empress join the team in the future?

Shouldn't the renegade have an interest in Empress, seeing as she had a piece of the equation in herself when she was in the comics, or did he simply forget that she existed, like when he forgot what the Sword of the Fallen does to the ones it kills?

Does Kon have any benefits from his human half?
Like extra resistance to magic and kryptonite?

Hey, has OL talked to Kara about her religious beliefs and if she would like to worship Helios, you know to also help her get into one of earths more better afterlives, or is she simply not interested?

Have the angels allowed some of that visitation, between the souls in Erebus and those in heaven, that Hades was going to demand of them?

Nice to see this multi-character perspective thing you're doing.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Probably not.

He once saw her in one page of one comic.

In theory, he gains a number of traits. He's just not using them all that much because kryptonian is better at most things he wants to do.

Superman's first priority is the protection of the innocent. The area is already clear and Mr Atom isn't trying to leave. Then, protecting his team mates. Diana and Billy are fine, but he tanked a shot for Hal. He could rush in, but at this point he's a veteran and knows that having multiple people attacking a single humanoid opponent would just result in them getting in each others way.

I'll leave that for someone around here with a better understanding of physics than me.

 

I do think it would be nice if the name of whoever's perspective we were following was listed at the start. It's easy enough to figure out that we're following Supes from context, but compared to say, Green Arrow or Captain Marvel his voice isn't as strong.

 

Another piece of art for my Favorites folder. This is so very Superman.

 

During the Mandated episode we found out that the, well i suppose you could say spirit, of that middle eastern kingdom, the one whose ruler asked Dream to take it so that it will never die, was brought back to the material universe.

I was wondering how that happened and why it was brought back?
I don't think that there was an explanation given, but maybe i didn't notice it.

 

Does this Superman have ice breath? If so does it work the same way as the cold guns?

 

IMO Mr Zoat has always written Supes as more intelligent than he's been portrayed in the comics. I like that. I also like the fact that this Superman has learnt. What you're seeing is evidence of character development.

 

Have there been any New Gods, that are in your story, from Apokalyps that have defected to the side of New Genesis, or the side of what you may tentatively consider good?

Aside from Barda, Bekka, Himon and any other good Apokalyps born New Gods that i may be unaware of.

You said that Darkseid is basically a high tier New God, wielder of the Omega Force/Effect and has several fragments of the Anti-Life equation.
I was wondering something about Izaya, aside from him being a high tier New God himself, does he have the Alpha Force/Effect that he has in the comics and does he try to collect fragments of the Life Equation like Darkseid does with his equation, and if he doesn't then what does powers does he have?
Does the life equation exist in your story?

Is Izaya Darkseids equal, because we don't really see him fight him all that much in the comics, aside from that time in Godhead?
I am also sorry for mentioning the issue, i just want to know if he is his equal?

How old is Darkseid in your story, in the comics he is supposed to be around 245.000 years old, and when did he discover about the existence of Anti-Life, in the comics he theorised that it may exist when he went to Mars, or has the existence of the equation been known before he was born and he simply made it his goal to get it?

 

Something else to consider for the league:

Paying people.

I'm not saying recruit mercs, but maybe if they could figure out someway to compensate people for the time and resources invested in being super heroes they could expand their roster and get more hours out of existing members. Not to mention they'd then be able to prevent money issues being used to pressure their members because they're the source of the money.

Not to mention that by taking control of the professional hero game now they can hopefully prevent things getting as ... problematic as the set up in MHA.

 

No, no he isn't. Superman was a legit science hero for a good chunk of his existence, he actually knows how to fight, rather then just throw super strength haymakers, and has several villains that require him to outthink them rather then out muscle them.

Hell, All Star Superman is all about Clark using his brain rather than brawn. He legit outsmarts a Luthor who has devised a way to gain Superman's powers.

I believe Zoat has said that this Superman does not have his breath powers as he feels that they do not make sense. That, and I don't think YJ has shown him using them either.

 

Because the fellow doing it needed to demonstrate progress in order to get his grant renewed.

I'm not keen on the ability, but if it does exist then it's literally him breathing out super-cooled air.

Scott Free?

I haven't decided.

Yes, but don't necessarily expect it to be like one particular version from the comics.

Pass.

I don't have a firm figure in mind.

 

I meant New Gods that were BORN and RAISED on APOKALYPS.

Scott was born on New Genesis and raised on Apokalyps.

So are there any New Gods born and raised on that hell world that defected to the side of good, excluding the ones i mentioned in my post above, or are you undecided if you will include any in your story?

And someone literary brought back an ancient civilizations spirit, from the Dream Lord no less, just to get more research money?
Wow just wow.
Was that fellow some kind of super genius sorcerer, like if Dr. Sivana dedicated himself to studying magic over physics, instead of focusing on physics but having some knowledge of magic like in your story?

 

Do other worlds have hells of their own, like the one that earth has, that is formed by the thoughts of the First?

I ask because when OL was talking to Ragnars brother he mentioned the First and he seemed to recognise who that was and Satanus mentioned that Ritchie theorised of a way to travel from one worlds Hell to anothers
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So when the First was banished did he only form a hell that is connected to the earth, or did other hells form on other worlds?i

Or was Satanus simply describing an aliens worlds afterlife that serve as some form of punishment instead of something that the First may be responsible for?

 

Kinda wincing here at this. Sigh. Not one of the better arcs imo. Put's Zoat's League square in the focus and frankly they are the weak link in his story. He pretty much bashes them at every opportunity and mainly uses them for the worf effect to show off the oc. The fact they are so nerfed from their comic counterparts hurts too considering he has buffed about 90% over everything else to equal or above comic standard.

Hopefully we will get a grayven chapter soon those chapters are really all thats keeping me invested in the story.

 

Ok. Now I want to hear more about this.

So was there like some Ancient History Major studying the citystate and how it just vanished one day, and his thesis ended up being "The King made an ill conceived wish to never die to the God of Dreams, and got his civilisation monkeys pawed into being naught but a dream."

And the Dissertation Committee as like "Wow. Um, yeah. So... We're cutting you off, bro, because apparently you have been smoking the grant money. If you want rent money from now on, your going to need to start doing some scut work for someone respectable with tentue"

And then the Ancient History Major gave a big Kirk, "Noooooooo!" then freaked out and decided to do a Bill & Ted's style Super Mega Awesome History Presentation to save his grade, and gathered some friends to Mantle LARP what he thought the vanished civilisation was like and what happened to it. And then found out that if you can Mantle LARP the characters well enough, you can gain a lifetime's worth of skills without studying. Also superpowers by Mantling LARPing the Court Magi and Seers.

 

To Enochi

I think that the renegade chapter will be episode 94, Zoat said during the Field Trip episode that fourteen episodes following that one he will go to Equestria, and the title for ep. 94 is Equestria Girls, after two more paragon chapters.

Zoat basically writes a handful of paragon episodes and then at least one renegade episode.

At least that's how it's been these last several updates.

 

Also is not so much Zoat nerfing the league as the source league (Young Justice) being pretty substandard. YJ has the league hold and drop the ball as the plot demands and the plot exist to highlight the "side kids".

 

I haven't given it much thought. There are probably a few, but I doubt that they live long.

It was more a magic researcher doing Dream research. He wanted to keep researching it, but there wasn't much wider interest compared to battle magic. So he was doing some stuff on conceptual empowerment (which is how he got a grant in the first place) and managed to discover these weirdly stable and complex conceptual clusters in the Dream, and... Yeah, then it happened.

Other worlds often have a Hell-equivalent. We briefly see Krypton's in the comics. Beyond that, I haven't decided.

I decided that I couldn't do Grayven's trip to Equestria justice in a single episode. Be prepared for double-pony.

 

"double pony"

This should be interesting.

Will the renegade change upon entering Wilson, like Sunset did when she entered earth?

Are Source worshiping aliens aware of the First of the Fallen?
Has the First ever visited any alien planets?
Would it be even possible for him to do so?

 

Adding on to this, is the Source literally the being that created the Silver City or was it created by someone who worships the Source?