With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I think it’s a combination of medium and investment. A comic book has a monetary value beyond the time it takes to read, unless you borrowed it from a friend or library, and thus you may want to feel like you are getting your money’s worth.

 

In case anyone is unaware, Casino Royale was written in the 1950s, well before the monetary changeover in the UK.

 

*audibly groans*
is there any word if they knew, at the time still using mostly EARTH TECH,that the US were using robotic probes for first-through recon, given they had enough Intel about the American stargate program to time the activation to miss their own?
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i think that's the thing i find the most infuriating-that they intentionally set up a defense system that'd obliterate the base's ability to defend itself/hand it over to an invader on a silver platter, that could be circumvented by motion-sensing/remote operated UCV's made with period tech >.<

... i mean, nerve gas has a use-by date, like any complex biowar agent even if its still somewhat effective the chemicals change/degrade over time, if there's no countdown/delay its just BEGGING for a strategically vital project to be gutted with a single literal slip of a finger/subverted leader, would likely cause morale/loyalty issues in a large chunk of personnel....

..... its a contingency the SOVIETS would have dismissed as insane/idiotic, given the politbureau dismissed the original plans for Perimeter/Dead Hand on those grounds >.<

 

That it was an accident, obviously.

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, Celestial Archer is about Artemis' age. And they are dating.

I felt that I needed to re-establish between two characters who are the focus of the episode and haven't seen each other for a while.

Not exactly the first time.

 

Please tell me you have a link?

 

No.

 

Honestly the slice of life chapters like this are probably the best part of the story. You are reading a fic that updates with around ~1k words every day. Most fics update far less consistently but with longer updates and definitely go more than 1k words of nothing happening within their 10k word updates.

 

I don't think it's likely, exactly, but I wonder if Renegade's shared soul with Lynne will play some part in them returning to their present. The Source seems like the kind of thing that will transcend space-time.

 

Well she and Tao have a lot in common, at least compared to her and Wally.

They're both archers, so they can share some interests, they were both raised with a bit more discipline than most people their age, Artemis her dad and Tao in the army, they're both in a similar line of work.

But renegade is practically the New God of assholes.

Ohh she may be vomiting, but it's spiritual vomit and renegade isn't mentioning the metaphysial vomit on his legs now.

Ehh, she's a god of archery at this point so that's probably no longer an issue, and even before that she had some extreme training and trick arrows with all sorts of functions.

Some of the skinny and emaciated slaves we see in the comics could have been full on gods that displeased Darkseid somehow.

As God from the wonderful videos of Darkmatter2525 explained to Jeffrey how he's going to solve his problems.

"Magic"

In Doctor Who humanity practically looked the same even after trillions of years so it's possible that if there are humans in the Sheeda era they may still look human, possibly because of genetic engineering to maintain the human form we know.

But renegade would so share all his dirty stories if he can make someone uncomfortable.

The chance to see renegade act like a little child on sugar?

Yes please.

That hasn't stopped some of the other Paul's from doing some inappropriate things with underage girls.

Yeah Paul didn't go too far with Zatanna, but lying about his age and some of the activities they engaged in, like him brushing her hair and kissing her on New Years Eve even if he was uncomfortable, are still kinda inappropriate.

Well it may be kinda hard to believe that a rookie would decide to enslave a guy on what was essentially his first day.

Killing them by accident?

Sure.

Enslaving them to the spiritual level?

Kinda hard to fathom.

Unless the formula allows them to control he person they are injecting.

Circe turns men into animal hybrids and gives them enhanced strength.

The Columbians are probably nowhere around.

The Sheeda may exist, but either they didn't detect the two of them, or are sending someone to observe, or they're being watched but don't know since they're methods of detection, the Box and ring, aren't working at full capacity.

 

Both Renegade and Eros-Paul have revealed their ages far earlier (and the Eros story explored the consequences of that quite well, in my opinion), while Paragon goes to a lot of effort generally to maintain the facade. I do hope he actually comes clean with that at some point, there doesn't seem to be any real point to it now, and Zatanna already knows (which I'm glad finally happened). I'm not sure if his reluctance is some consequence of his enlightenment and semi-inhuman mindset, but I don't think that makes sense.

I think Paragon should also have made his age clear to Jade before beginning their sexual or romantic relationships, not after; not because I think it would have changed her opinion, but it's basic information she deserves in order to make a valid decision. Especially considering that Common Sense Paul is dating her mother, which I just remembered upon a random re-read (would be fun to see that relationship and family dynamic).

At this point, though, does no one who he hasn't already told suspect the truth? If Batman knows or suspects, I'd assume he'd have confronted Paragon before now, possibly in the post-Nabu interrogation.

 

I think that Paul may not really care anymore about revealing his age.

He may think there's no point to it anymore and is worried others may dislike him for keeping it a secret.

Diana and Bruce most likely suspect something, but I doubt that they consider him to be a thirty year old, but probably think he's just a few years older than he is.

Really hope we see an interlude of that version in the future.

 

The SI told Jade after he returned to Earth.

 

Yeah, but if I remember correctly she found out about that after they had sex and started a romantic relationship, not before that.

 

I stopped to count how many updates have stories that are boring.

Worse is that I just know Zoat would have done the same story way shorter when this fic started. But nooo he has to drag it for over twenty updates nowadays.

 

I will always be grateful for introducing me to "The Sun is Also a Warrior" all those years ago.
I coudn't get my hands on actual CD but I've bought the digital edition of Avalon is Risen in 2016.

 

In Post flashpoint and YJ continuity yes, his cybernetics include a 'box- a fatherbox.

 

Or this.

 

I'm Batmane.

 

Prepare to feel the righteous hooves of justice.

 

Well there is that war with Apokalips you're planning.

Remove the " from 'this stuff'.

 

Zoat, can you give a rundown on the New Gods Grayven has made and what abilities they have or have developed out of being New Gods? Artemis is...what? New God of the Hunt like the Olympian Artemis? Her New God abilities revolve around marksmanship and being a true sniper? She made one arrow in flight multiply into many arrows and she learned a divine teleportation technique from Tao.

What about Kid Flash? And Kaldur? And Renegade Zatanna and Green Arrow? What new God abilities have they developed?

 

I think he made everyone aside from Robin, who didn't want it, a New God.

Artemis is more like a god of archery and her abilities are supernatural marksmanship.

Kid Flash had his speed increase to the level of the Flash and he lost his hunger.

Kaldur lost the gills he had on his neck and maybe the webbed fingers and toes and is most likely some kind of water god now as he's been shown as being able to manipulate water much more easily and without his water sword things.

Zatanna is a much more powerful magic user now and I think Green Arrow may develop the same powers as Artemis as Tao, although his may be weaker since I think he only got a partial Awakening, but I'm not fully certain on that.

 

"I heard in times of hardship, the pioneers used to eat coral"

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

They ate just about everything else, Heck some people COMPLAINED if their water didn't have enough sediment/silt in it.

 

Well, as long as they don't explode....

Worst scenario, this is some sort of a post-anti-life time, but since something slightly similar happened in the DCeased miniseries / Marvel Zombies ripoff, or whatchamacallit, it seems unlikely.

Gotta say, I've forgotten a lot of the details of Renegade timeline.

 

Dang late. Guess that's what happens when you get stuck into a costume creation session on Champions Online...

Let me guess, using his daiklave or the Sword for a whittling knife? Assuming his fingernails aren't sharp enough...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

Funny, but I doubt she's that interested in politics. More like LExcorp's little project.

"Quite a nice hole, overall. Very good echo."

Well, I suppose if there were something Kryptonian there... But what would the chances of that be? <innocent whistle>

And it's entirely believable that Lex could reverse-engineer Kryptonian tech, because Lex.

I see the Kryptonian cloning is going well. Rapid development or not?

Not the best of ammunition, but you take what you can get, I suppose.

Huh, using the Daiklave as a tool, eh? I suppose it's easier to use, what with the Sword's drawbacks if you nick yourself...

If it eats radiation, it'd be quite useful for cleaning up reactor accidents or maybe radioactive waste. That's quite the winner...

You would need about three of her to match Grayven's weight class... And while that sounds like a fun party, someone's going to feel left out...

Not yet, anyway. Don't underestimate her growth potential...

Okay, now that's a useful trick for re-arming. Something Celestial Archer taught her?

Don't give him an opening like that, you never know what he'll do with it.

... Well... I suppose that's one way to test it, without a Ring.

Not without much stronger teeth and a lot of sauce.

Good question. Given we saw Tao shoot a bridge to the Moon and get there in a minute or two tops...

Aw, it's like a Fast Travel power, then. You still have to explore the map the old-fashioned way.

Trudge, trudge, trudge... If only montage powers worked in reality...

And big to boot. Kryptonians didn't do things by halves, did they?

Heh. As if they'd do the building in such an obvious place. And let everyone with a telephoto lens see every step of the process?

A nice, big chunk of bait. And the Sheeda pounced on it, not thinking it could be a mousetrap...

It's Grayven, no way could it have been that simple.

Oh, please. Anyone with a little magical knowledge can beat Ring scans. The Paragon knows that well, even if the Renegade hasn't run into it that often.

You make that sound like a bad thing. He's reformed... Mostly. Thanks to Grayven hanging over his head like a beefy Sword of Dmocles.

To be honest, calling it something like the 'Pax Alexander' might have sounded better. Draw parallels to Alexander of Macedon, and all. Though that still has its issues...

Probably a sneaky pun on Gray, yes. I can just see him chuckling to himself as he works out really subtle ones...

Joy of not being a tenth-level intelligence. That's what you hire the smart people for.

Let them have some Righteous Face-punching fun, of course. I can just see Superman stewing over the fact that Lex's fleet saved the day. And Batman being paranoid about it.

And you still didn't manage that, either... Oh, well.

Bugger, looks like the DM's bored. He's hit the 'Get on with it' button: random encounters!

Finally, something other than talking. Don't get me wrong, character moments like this are fun, but a bit of biffo is always good. And I think the thread might have started lighting torches if it was three in a row. Roll for initiative!

...as I slide the block I'm working...

 

About as big as the chances of Lex having unresolved sexual feelings for Kal El, which given the fact that Kon exists are extremely high.

Well maybe it's more like his staff that did this.

Lex may be smart, but this version may not exactly be the omni disciplinarian scientist that his comic self is.

In this fic on SB called The Traveling Merchant and Wandering Mage the MC picks up a bunch of crossbows for his dimension hopping ship.

The reason he does this is because while guns and lasers can be more powerful they can also be easily disabled, like and EMP pulse for the electronics and something like that Sontaran thing that stopped bullets from firing in Dr Who, but arrows can't exactly be stopped like that and if you're stranded somewhere without any advanced equipment the primitive option may be the most useful since you can easily fix a bow and arrow while doing the same with a gun or laser in a primitive place would be impossible.

Another reason he picks up the crossbows is that because they travel through other universes they may end up in one where the lasers don't work due to the local laws not being all that sci fi and allowing things like laser weapons to work.

He either shot it literary to the moon or just aimed at the direction of the moon and opened up a portal to the residence of the gods, but it wasn't on the moon and what we saw was just something like an illusion.

It kinda is a bad thing, if renegade isn't around to hold Lex's hand then he may go off the deep end and now he'd have a whole fleet to enact his crazy plans.

Well wouldn't you be mad and paranoid if a guy that belonged to a group of psychopaths and sociopaths that committed horrible crimes against innocent people, like torture, murder, enslavement and a whole lot of other things, and was never punished for it, and is actually getting more power and wealth, is being hailed as a hero and has his own fleet