With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Technically there was another orange lantern out in the universe, so Paul may have thought it was best to refer to himself as the one not in the Vega sector.

They also most likely didn't call him out on it since they didn't care because they trusted him, and they knew about Larfleeze so thought that him founding a corps that isn't just one lunatic and the people he's enslaved is a good idea.

I think he also told them about Larfleeze, and if he didn't then they figured it out after Bloome came to Earth.

What he told them was technically the truth, and even if it wasn't it was still a fairly harmless lie that would make calling him out on it pointless.

 

Sure Obi-Wan, it was totally true... from a certain point of view.
But from other, closer to reality, point of view it was a bald-faced lie.

 

Except there was another orange lantern out there, along with his assimilated constructs, so technically there was a Corps. Not the best Corps, but still it was there.

And even if it was a lie it would still be a harmless one.

 

It was very much a stretching of the truth... which is to say, mostly a lie.

In his mind, he was already founding the Corps and determining what it was going to be. He was speaking as if it had already happened. He was establishing policies and protocols in a way that he could present himself as a legitimate officer of a legitimate organization instead of looking like a random guy with a power ring not beholden to any code or creed.

It's not as blatant of a lie as what he was saying about his age, but it was done under largely the same motivations.

 

Speaking of the "Gateways" chapters. I thought of something amusing.

What if Ring Paul found himself on the other side of the Gate, it is similar enough to Earth Prime. Perhaps a parallel Earth Prime.

Only that Paul did not start a fanfic about him getting an Orange Ring, rather that Paul wrote about him getting a Purple Ring. Because for whatever reason, "The Boys" was significantly more popular on that Earth. OL realizes that he meet that character during the great crisis of infinite Pauls and this starts a bit of an existential crisis. Probably ending with OL yelling at Mr. Zoat for writing him into Gate in the first place. A bit of a fourth wall break.

Speaking of which, did OL Paul recognize the world of Avatar: the Last Airbender when he went to recruit Azula? Because that show came out before this story was started. Does he already know that he is visiting locations from the fiction of our world? Maybe he already had that existential crisis I was joking about earlier and came to terms with it.

This now raises many more questions.

 

I'd say that he knows about the other fictional universes, as he knows about MLP and he recruited Luna.

 

should be ' it's anchored '

' They '

take out ' collect '

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Nice to know there are other people out there that can hurt Darkseid.

'or prefer'

Those zombie children may have been human.

twenty four

Maybe 'Mother Box'

 

Sorry, why would the Sheeda not have a way of measuring time? You can't run a civilisation without it!

And even organic computers need a basic clock cycle.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Actually, no.

Artemis isn't using it like that.

 

They probably do and Grayven just didn't think to ask about it. I bet it's like a bone-clock thing with a heart that beats every second.

Come to think of it, they most definitely should have a way of measuring time. After all they have a time machine.

 

The way the Sheeda and people from her era measure time is most likely very different that she is more comfortable with the way she measures time.

Can you elaborate on why, because I tried to look it up and the only thing I got was a song by the Hooters?

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

Huh have to say I'm drawing a blank.

The closest to a likely suspect I can think of is Starbreaker.

He's basically if Dracula became Galactus.

He's not blue skinned or insectile though, so he's not an obvious patron for the Sheeda's phenotype.

There's no reason to believe that Nekron has anything even remotely similar to DNA.

 

A sun that destroys everything except living creatures seems like the opposite of something Nekron would do.


If I had to take a guess with the categories of "super strong humanoid, vague dark color code, maybe Magic" i would say Great Darkness. Trigon possessing Raven, maybe? Or eclipso in a really good host. Imperix discounting magic, maybe they just wanted to see if it would beat him rather than needing a counter.

 

There have been far more nonsensical things to have happened in DC, but you're probably right, I just can't think if anything else that it could be with my limited knowledge of the comics.

 

It drains energy out of living things to, Sivana complained that he could feel it every time he went outside.

The Sheeda and their toys are probably adapted to it, and the New God healing factor Zoat added to the New God package would probably explain Gravy and Artemis's resistance.

 

Road trip? Girl's night out? Either way, those two lucky ladies. Getting out of studying for a while.

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Not difficult, all she needs to do is take a couple of splitting shots. And then pick up all the intact arrows...

Ah, visiting a neighbour city. Checking in on the locals probably sounds like a good plan, before anyone starts getting ideas about taking the crown.

Probably a good move, even if you weren't directly involved. You did have a front-row seat, though... Wouldn't be surprised if some enterprising noble decided your head would make a good rallying point for 'loyalists' to gather round in vengeance...

Can't be much. How long's he been reading up?

Well, given that it took giving the entire human race super-powers to beat it last time, I don't think it would be something you want running around..

Care to elaborate on any of that, Grayven? Not everyone has your encyclopedic knowledge.

Congratulations on not smiling there, G-man. Bloody troll.

A good question, given the aforementioned solution isn't as possible here, I suspect.

Not unexpected losses for Darkseid. After all, it was made to kill Gods.

...It's not Superboy Prime, is it? Or some Amazo offshoot? <sees Assblaster5000's comment about Nekron> Sheeeeeeit.

Well, whatever it is, it's powerful. Clearly it had some manner of hax abilities.

So... The Sheeda are vaguely descended form this thing, in a very loose fashion. That's... Worrying. But it doesn explain a little about their slightly higher resistance to the sun's light.

Or maybe they assumed it would leave them alone if it thought they were like it? Like some sort of biological IFF.

Also, would you want to be doing that shit in sight of the thing that apparently killed hundreds, if not thousands (Millions?) of superheroes?

It's also odd that no-ones come looking from outside the solar system, or even off Earth. This Vampire Sun entity kills everything that gets close, maybe? Even without the tech-destroying aura, that is.

I wouldn't call the Sheeda's lifestyle 'winning'. More... 'Slowly dying'.

Whatever happened, it did something to lock down the Solar System...

And once you have limitless energy, you can try to do something to use it to stop the Sheeda dying. Some manner of biological Replicator device, perhaps? Something to make food and nutrients...

Yep. I suppose even failing will teach you something about it. Especially if you finish the generator and something snipes it from orbit...

Ah... Feeling lost in this land of eternal twilight?

I don't think she's in the mood for any bullshit, Grayven. Don't try to play her on this.

Dude...

...Seriously.

Huh. Well, I guess he's not trying to play her.

Isn't she a little busy? What with collating and deciphering seriously ancient records.

Huh, looks like he'll be making a New God Watch after all.

It's not like they're pressed for time, after all.

So, the Vampire Sun is a humanoid entity, somewhere in orbit of Earth? I suppose that explains why they haven't just left (ignoring Melmoth's stupid explanation), or no-one's come visiting. Now I'm picturing whatever it is prowling the Solar System like a guard dog, snapping at anything spaceworthy with major death rays.

 

to my understanding a bunch of tests were carried out by puting volunteers in a cave with no way of measuring time.

Though, my memory leads me to remember 48 hour cycles, since they almost universally reposted thinking only half the tme they actually spent had passed

my memory is also faulty

 

Hmmm, speaking of New Gods, I think I recall there being some relation between the Black Light and Anti-Life Equation, so maybe someone did a bit of a fucky wucky and exposed the Life Entity to Darkseid's little passion project?

This is obviously a crackpot "theory" for the ages, and could very easily be me misremembering things (I could have heard about that connection I mentioned in a theory video at some point for example), but it does maybe, sort of explain why living things are, at least partially, unmolested by whatever's happening.

 

I remember that in the n52 comics Highfather wanted to get the white light to fight the AL Equation, but as for the black light and the Anti Life being the same I'm not so sure. Still it does make some sense.

 

Think less "biology" and more "vaguely 'alive' magi-tech" I'd say.

Doesn't really tackle the genetics part of the equation, but the direct quote from the chapter doesn't actually say that the bio-goop they scooped up actually came from the entity, so who knows?

 

Yeah and Artemis is being shown the sites, which are probably just shit.

Paragon and renegade really have the same problem of assuming other people know as much as they do because of their hax knowledge, so they don't inform them about stuff.

Either that, or no one is interested in the Sol system. If there are humans out there in the universe then they may not care about going to Earth, or given how long it's been they may not even know that they came from Earth due to losing the records.

He is finding it difficult keep his promise to Luna about not being an asshole.

Ohh, he so was.

Thank you for invoking Murphy.

 

Melmoths explanation may have made some sense actually.

They could have just stolen a ship from an era that had space ships and then used it to travel to another planet.

Yeah they couldn't travel with a ship in their own time without being eaten by the sun, but they could have traveled to an era before the sun became like that and just not go back to their time.

Melmoth was able to travel back in time and stay there for a long time, so it's possible.

This could mean that either their civilization is really fucking stupid in some aspects, or the explanation that Melmoth gave was accurate and they want to gather resources while hurting others, or that Melmoth and the queen were somehow controlling them and now that they're gone the control is also gone.

As for the Sheeda being so helpful, well they could just be manipulating renegade and Artemis until they get something from them and then just kill or torture them like their previous New God 'guests'.

 

It's been awhile, and it's probably because I've been playing with my cat a lot, but I'm curious if OL ever made a grave or some kind of memorial for Teekl? She was best cat.

 

Huh, not sure that anyone's mentioned this before but Mother Box is struggling because of Earth's Entropy Field, which means whatever is doing this can, at the very least, interrupt a connection to The Source.

This is not a good thing.


Might lend some credence to my crackpot theory of a corrupted Life Entity though, which is neat.

Edit:Not that the Life Entity appearing away from Earth makes much sense...

 

How does that explain it? Even if Vamp-Ra (btw there's something very wrong with an entity that could be described both as 'vampire' and as 'sun'; some things just don't mix) stood guard and killed anything going in or out it's still limited to one era.

Sheeda have a time machine. Their entire civilization is based around it. You can't send a spaceship around this fucker? Just go before he was a thing and send them away.

Also, New God tech is apparently living enough that it works. Are you telling me that BoomTube-esque interstellar portal or teleportation machines aren't a thing in this crummy future?

 

You know, I'm honestly surprised that nobody has pointed out something obvious about the description of the being that thrashed the Justice Legion and brought on Sheedafuture.

The description, honestly, is not inconsistent - barring power level, and that could be explained by the passage of time between "now" and then - with a description of Grayven.

 

Regular 2010's Earth has the Zeta-tubes, and those are just meh versions of BoomTubes, so The Sheeda almost certainly have something that can function for long-range, near-instantaneous travel.

The question is exactly why they haven't done just that. They certainly don't care enough about the average citizen of their world, so the people they would leave behind aren't the issue, so why?

My personal bet is some magic fuckery combined with The Sheeda's higher-ups considering the situation acceptable enough to continue as-is.