With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I find it hilarious that OL's method of proving his credentials is to summon the rings off of other Lanterns by wanting it more.

 

Semicolon should be colon. (The other semicolon in the update is correct.)

Use the multi-quote feature, and/or edit your posts instead of multi-posting like that. ^^()

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Barda is the New Goddess of Pass?

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Spoiler: Pass

verb
verb: pass; 3rd person present: passes; past tense: passed; past participle: passed; gerund or present participle: passing
1.
move or cause to move in a specified direction.
"he passed through towns and villages"
Similar:
go
proceed
move
progress
make one's way
travel
drive
fly
run
flow
course
stream
roll
drift
sweep
Opposite:
halt
stop
change from one state or condition to another.
"homes that have passed from public to private ownership"
EUPHEMISTIC•NORTH AMERICAN
die (used euphemistically).
"his father had passed to the afterlife"
2.
go past or across; leave behind or on one side in proceeding.
"the two vehicles had no room to pass each other"
go beyond the limits of; surpass or exceed.
"this item has passed its sell-by date"
Similar:
surpass
exceed
go beyond
transcend
outdo
surmount
outstrip
TENNIS
hit a winning shot past (an opponent).
3.
(of time or a point in time) elapse; go by.
"the day and night passed slowly"
Similar:
elapse
go by
go past
proceed
progress
advance
wear on
slip by
slip away
roll by
glide by
tick by
spend or use up (a period of time).
"this was how they passed the time"
Similar:
occupy
spend
fill
use (up)
employ
devote
take up
while away
beguile
kill
waste
fritter
dissipate
come to an end.
"the danger had passed"
Similar:
come to an end
cease to exist
fade
fade away
melt away
blow over
run its course
ebb
die out
evaporate
vanish
peter out
draw to a close
disappear
finish
end
cease
terminate
evanish
happen; be done or said.
"not another word passed between them"
Similar:
happen
occur
take place
come about
transpire
befall
eventuate
go unnoticed
go unheeded
stand
go
be accepted
go unremarked
go undisputed
go uncensored
4.
transfer (something) to someone, especially by handing or bequeathing it to the next person in a series.
"your letter has been passed to Mr. Rich for action"
Similar:
hand
let someone have
give
hand over
hand around
reach
transfer
convey
deliver
throw
toss
chuck
bung
be transferred from one person or place to another, especially by inheritance.
"if Ann remarried the estate would pass to her new husband"
Similar:
be transferred
be made over
be turned over
be signed over
go
devolve
be left
be bequeathed
be handed down/on
be given
be consigned
be passed on
(in football, soccer, hockey, and other games) throw, kick, or hit (the ball or puck) to another player on one's own team.
"his intent was to pass the ball forward rather than knock it back"
Similar:
kick
hit
throw
head
lob
loft
put (something, especially money) into circulation.
"persons who have passed bad checks"
(especially of money) circulate; be current.
"cash was passing briskly"
5.
(of a candidate) be successful in (an examination, test, or course).
"she passed her driving test"
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be successful in
succeed in
gain a pass in
get through
come through
meet the requirements of
pass muster in
qualify
graduate
come up to scratch in
come up to snuff in
sail through
scrape through
Opposite:
fail
judge the performance or standard of (someone or something) to be satisfactory.
"he was passed fit by army doctors"
be accepted as adequate; go uncensured.
"she couldn't agree, but let it pass"
6.
(of a legislative or other official body) approve or put into effect (a proposal or law) by voting on it.
"the bill was passed despite fierce opposition"
(of a proposal or law) be examined and approved by (a legislative body or process).
"the Bill passed by 164 votes to 107"
Similar:
approve
vote for
accept
ratify
adopt
carry
agree to
authorize
sanction
endorse
validate
legalize
put into effect
enact
OK
Opposite:
reject
7.
pronounce (a judgment or judicial sentence).
"passing judgment on these crucial issues"
Similar:
declare
pronounce
utter
express
deliver
issue
set forth
utter (something, especially criticism).
"she would pass remarks about the Paxtons in their own house"
ARCHAIC
adjudicate or give a judgment on a matter.
"a jury could not be trusted to pass upon the question of Endicott's good faith"
8.
discharge (something, especially urine or feces) from the body.
"frequency of passing urine"
Similar:
discharge
excrete
eliminate
evacuate
expel
emit
void
release
let out
9.
forgo one's turn in a game or an offered opportunity.
"we pass on dessert and have coffee"
(of a company) not declare or pay (a dividend).
"the company has already passed its interim dividend"
BRIDGE
make no bid when it is one's turn during an auction.
"South bids 1NT. North passes"
noun
noun: pass; plural noun: passes
1.
an act or instance of moving past or through something.
"repeated passes with the swipe card"
an act of passing the hands over anything, as in conjuring or hypnotism.
a thrust in fencing.
a juggling trick.
BRIDGE
an act of refraining from bidding during the auction.
COMPUTING
a single scan through a set of data or a program.
2.
a successful completion of an examination or course.
"a 100 percent pass rate"
US
the grade indicating the successful completion of an examination or course.
BRITISH
an achievement of a university degree without honors.
"a pass degree"
3.
a card, ticket, or permit giving authorization for the holder to enter or have access to a place, form of transportation, or event.
"a bus pass"
Similar:
permit
warrant
authorization
license
passport
visa
safe conduct
exeat
free ticket
free admission
complimentary ticket
laissez-passer
4.
(in football, soccer, hockey, and other games) an act of throwing, kicking, or hitting the ball or puck to another player on the same team.
"his cross-field pass to Giggs"
Similar:
kick
hit
throw
shot
header
5.
INFORMAL
an amorous or sexual advance made to someone.
"she made a pass at Stephen"
Similar:
make sexual advances to
make advances to
make sexual overtures to
proposition
make a sexual approach to
come on to
make a play for
hit on
make time with
put the make on
make love to
6.
a state or situation of a specified, usually bad or difficult, nature.
"things came to such a pass that these gentlemen sat coldly at the meetings not daring to speak out freely and honestly"
Similar:
be in a worrying state
be in a sad plight
be in troubled circumstances
be in dire straits
be in a pickle/hole
7.
INFORMAL•US
a rejection or dismissal.
"those who don't like oily food may want to give this a pass"
8.
BRIDGE
an act of refraining from bidding during the auction.
exclamation
exclamation: pass
said when one does not know the answer to a question, for example in a quizzing game.
"to the enigmatic question we answered “Pass.”"
INFORMAL•US
used to express rejection or dismissal.
"the shepherd's pie looks gross. Pass!"

Which definition?
My personal pick would be Noun 7: Rejection or Dismissal.

She is the one who having been raised by Granny Goodness to be a Fury, was able to reject her upbringing to become something else.

 

Sounds like particularly stable Lanterns going on this mission.

 

Ah, Lantern Freud would have a field day.

Paul will have to set aside some time to act as the Corps Deanna Troi, huh?

(Honetly though, the one thing all superhero teams miss is a resident psychiatrist)

 

Who's Paul referring to here when he says 'Priest'?

A problem for another time. I'm honestly kinda amused this person honestly thinks zhe stands a chance of ruling after the Reach is gone, unless zhe's very long lived, or that zhe can take on Paul. Also, is 'zhe' a pronoun for that Lantern's species?

 

of -> in ?

threaten -> threatened

Oof, that's going to be a blow to Brobranbrak's pride.

 

Oh right not every Orange Lantern is like able or even a good guy

 

The SI has Zero ability to complain here.

He should have kept recruiting using the Honden to find people this entire time and not left Dox to do it. He shouldn't have left to 'let Dox establish himself'. If Dox can't establish himself as a leader with the SI around then he doesn't deserved to be the leader. Chief Strategist, War Master, Logistics Advisor? Sure.

Leader of the Orange Lantern Corp? No.

Of course a Logic Monster is going to just look for people with useful desires to give rings.

EDIT: The SI should be FAR more involved in the Orange Lantern Corp. In universe.

Hopefully this is a wakeup call to the SI to take his part in the OLC more seriously.

 

That's certainly how I read it. Safe assumption.

 

I might have missed it, but I didn't read any of that as Paul complaining, or anything indicating that he was unhappy with the situation.

 

It’s almost like Orange Light is something that tends to attract nutjobs or something?

 

'journey myself in moments' or 'a moment' not 'moment'

'a Scarab Warrior with them' needs an orange dot at the end.

 

OL could just be using it in a general nonbinary use instead of being specis specific.

 

Useful Desires do not necessarily equal Strong Desires, kinda hoping some of Paul’s recruits fall short because they don’t have the necessary avarice to make the ring work.

 

Dox has basically chosen Suicide (Bombers) Lanterns for this mission.

The fact that any of those exist in the OLC is stupid.

The SI is perfectly capable of finding people with 'stable' desires and capable of also guiding lanterns towards better ways of realizing their desires.

Dox just wants people to fight in the war.

EDIT: Of course, this is if the SI was actually involved with recruiting (other than the like 6 Lanterns he's recruited) and training (he's only done one class a while ago and it's never been mentioned again).


EDIT 2:

He wouldn't have found them in the Honden if they weren't at least capable of having strong desires.

Also, one of the things in this story is that the SI PUSHES is that Strong Desire =/= Good Lantern/Strong Lantern.

Wanting TOO much or in the wrong (dead end) ways lead to bad Orange Lantern.

 

The guy that trapped Malvolio in his prison.

He's a Green Lantern, or was one.

He showed up in the last episode.

Zhe is used as a gender neutral pronoun in the trans community.

So this Lantern most likely doesn't have a male or female gender.

It could be either the closest translation in English for how zhe's supposed to be referred as, or OL chose to use it himself.

At least its better than calling said Lantern 'it'.

 

The guy who stuck Malvolio in the pocket universe thingy.

Edit: Ack! Ninja'd.

 

These are the ones that are both most powerful and most expendable.

 

Vril Dox in his head where he speaks Coluan slang: 'Imma fuck around till I get me a Larfleeze 2 Electric Boogaloo going.'

 

Well...they need those. Lots of them. Given that they can keep creating rings, people with the ability to wield them against the Reach aren't going to be in short supply. This is a war. You can expect casualties. The nice thing about an army of orange lanterns is that all of them want to be fighting it, by definition.

 

Man, this is a nice reminder that OL had to find a super genius to make his Corps work in a useful amd productive manner. Finding people who want to do what you want them to do isnt easy, much less finding ones who want strong enough to work a ring. Add in the fact that this mission called for power over stability, and you are almost guaranteed that none of them are particularly sane, even by Orange Lantern standards.

It'll take OL years if not decades to find and train enough people to fight a war who are long term stable. Even then, trying to keep everyone on the same page will be like herding cats. Cats with warp drives.

I do wonder what OL's long term solution to this will be though. I just hope he doesn't expect Dox to take any criticisms well.

 

The first of the bunch wasn't comparatively bad. Doesn't have a long-term healthy outlook, but it's far better than "just wants to kill" and "plans to kill everyone else and rule in their place."

 

The retired Green Lantern from the previous episode.

At least some of them. Not all apparently humanoid species have the same sets of genitals.

I think that's alright.

Thank you, corrected.

Thank you, corrected.

You are incorrect.

 

The SI, in story, has said he doesn't want a Lantern Corps of psychopaths. He doesn't want a legion of monsters only obsessed with the destruction of the Reach.

It's FINE if that's their main desire, if that's their drive, but they need reasons, wants, to not go Orange Light crazy while all of that is happening.

The SI should never have stopped recruiting or trainings the OLC. (Which are apparently his main jobs in it outside of leading them in the field? Even though he hasn't ever once trained to lead lanterns or with leading Orange Lanterns...ever?) These kinds of 'It's fine if I die I just want revenge' Lanterns are a product of the SI not doing his job and just going back to Earth for SO much of the OLC's inception.

EDIT: If I haven't made it clear: This is a failing on the SI's part for not continuing his recruiting through the Honden and training all of the Orange Lanterns.

 

To be fair, do they know anything about you besides that you exist, and you're good with Orange Light? I mean, they'd probably assume your Greedport is some manner of FTL effect...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

I'm sure Best Snek will be happy to give you all the power you'll need for this. And I'd make sure it's well-tested and tried before you go taking Jade for daytrips through the Honden.

Probably best to have everyone aligned, desire-wise. Makes the 'envelope' you'll need to work them into much smoother.

And just how much experience does the Reach have with magic, in general? I mean, we know from canon that magic was able to break an admittedly already-damaged scarab's control programming. That might just be Earth Bullshit^tm but perhaps the Reach really doesn't encounter mystically active worlds that often. And what few countermeasures they have may be designed solely to break and shatter magic.

Admittedly, she didn't pick you specifically anyway. It was just pure chance you got involved, because you were unusually in touch with your inner avarice.

Well, that's not conducive to an easy time. Hopefully the data they gain from this run lets them refine the spells to smooth that out for next time. Because you know Dox expects there to be a 'next time'.

And that's something else they'll probably look to refine. A travel method that leaves you entirely deaf and blind to what's happening outside is not a good thing for a military operation. Hopefully by then they'll have someone else capable of entering the Honden...

So, no-one got lost in the Honden, I hope. Lanterns are more likely to have been at risk of that anyway.

Sounds like a typical filler system in any space game. Now, to see if anyone's going a little tang-crazy.

Sounds like the Reach have standard procedures for unexpected fleets turning up. Presumably they'd have expected some warning, like a wormhole opening, but good reaction time as is.

Great. And waste all that time and effort spent training them. I suppose Dox has his reasons. Maybe these are people he can't trust as easily with more sedate operations...

Not the best idea, this is supposed to be a joint operation, not a solo run.

So the other lanterns might just be able to keep up. If they could manage FTL themselves.

Thank goodness for ring translation. Can you imagine the confused face Dox would have without idiom equivalency?

And a solid first challenge for OL: Working with people he hasn't personally recruited and trained. Let's see how well he can mesh with complete strangers.

Which would be annoying, if only because you'd have to apply discipline in the middle of imminent combat.

So, out for revenge. At least he isn't being touched by Rage.

Useful, if you can keep him aimed at the right people. He might be a problem down the line, especially if he can;t control himself.

I'm guessing from a non-binary or agendered race, this one. And that's a concerning side-desire. One to keep an eye on for unwanted conquering.

And desperate to prove themself, I see. Zhe's going to have to learn to moderate themself in the name of teamwork.

"I can cheat." Honestly, I really foresee problems with this one. Ambitiousness and dissatisfaction don't make for a good combination.

Okay, don't trust this one with your back at any point, especially if they decide they've learnt enough from you...

Heh. Bet that'll get them fired up to show him what they can do. With any luck, this'll be an easy shakedown for them and the others.

Well, some interesting personalities showing up already. A Revenge-seeker, a serial murderer and a regular Starscream... Hopefully OL can get some of those rough edges smoothed out and turn them into solid ringslingers.

 

I admit Paul needs to take a bigger role in the OLC, and maybe after this he will.

However I feel the need to point out that OL's actions, which lead to Dox asking him to leave, were taking up the OLC's resources, which they needed for the war, so its not that unreasonable for Dox to want him to leave so they can actually make something organised.

Also I get the feeling that the OLC recruits tend to want to obey someone if they respect them, and if Dox can't show control over people that are his subordinates then he may lose their respect and their desire to fight for him, which would be very bad.

Also there aren't a lot of people in the universe that can safely wield orange rings, and they need to start the war before the Reach can prepare further and drag the war on.

And most of these guys, while strong, don't appear to be all that sane in their desires, like the one who can't stop killing, and this 'I hate everyone no matter what' Lantern, so yeah they may die, but the number of people who can use rings isn't very high in the first place, so Dox can't exactly be picky.

Now available in space stores.

But seriously they're much less of a danger than Larfleeze.

He had a Light Fountain with him and billions of years to absird its light.

Also his ring didn't have an AI or a connection to the CPB, so they couldn't just shut it down.

These guys don't have a Fountain and their rings can be shut down.

True, but maybe having some of them go of on the Reach during the war is acceptable, as long as the majority don't do that, and after the war the police force they make isn't filled with psychopaths.

 

I'm not certain the goal is to be a police force, so far the Orange Lanterns seem to more of a mutual aid society/anti-reach army.