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Vote Thread for Ack's Omake Corner

Discussion in 'General' started by Ack, Feb 18, 2015.

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  1. Chase92

    Chase92 Know what you're doing yet?

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    [X] Meet the Heberts - 6
    [X] NSW - 5
    [X] Really Bad End - 4
    [X] Confrontation II - 3
    [X] Hostage Situation - 2
    [X] Trump Card - 1
     
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  2. Jim Starluck

    Jim Starluck CO, ICS Vanguard

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    Okay. The spreadsheet itself has been updated (see my sig), but a full in-depth analysis will have to wait until I get home later tonight.
     
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  3. Jack of Olives

    Jack of Olives Knows just enough to be dangerous.

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    [X] Confrontation II - 6
    [X] Hostage Situation - 5
    [X] NSW - 4
    [X] Bait & Switch - 3
    [X] Meet the Heberts - 2
    [X] All Alone - 1
     
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  4. Sporadic Scribe

    Sporadic Scribe Not too sore, are you?

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    [X] NSW - 6
    [X] Meet the Heberts - 5
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 4
    [X] One More Trigger - 3
    [X] Bait & Switch - 2
    [X] Security! - 1
     
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  5. Snake/Eater

    Snake/Eater Myth Maker of the North

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    Done, don't forget to like.:)
     
  6. ViperhawkZ

    ViperhawkZ Emperor of Kanata

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    So are you just extending the average number of votes in the projections infinitely from the point where you starting counting? That doesn't quite sit right with me. I would have cut it off at a 5- or 10-vote average.
     
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  7. 1kal

    1kal Getting sticky.

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    [X] Recoil - 6
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 5
    [X] I, Panacea - 4
    [X] Wyvern - 3
    [X] All Alone - 2
    [X] Security! - 1
     
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  8. GW_Yoda

    GW_Yoda Professional Lurker

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    [X] All Alone - 6
    [X] Confrontation II - 5
    [X] Wyvern - 4
    [X] Trump Card - 3
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 2
    [X] One More Trigger - 1
     
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  9. fishbait08

    fishbait08 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    [X] Confrontation II - 6
    [X] I, Panacea - 5
    [X] Security! - 4
    [X] One More Trigger - 3
    [X] War Games - 2
    [X] All Alone - 1
     
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  10. Anaja

    Anaja I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    [X] MirrorVerse - 6
    [X] All Alone - 5
    [X] One More Trigger - 4
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 3
    [X] Wyvern - 2
    [X] Confrontation II - 1

    All Alone?
     
  11. ioigtam

    ioigtam Getting sticky.

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    [X] Nemesis - 6
    [X] Junior Hero - 5
    [X] Recoil - 4
    [X] One More Trigger - 3
    [X] Wyvern - 2
    [X] Hostage Situation - 1
     
  12. PathtoReading

    PathtoReading Know what you're doing yet?

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    [X] Confrontation II - 6
    [X] Slippery Slope - 5
    [X] Junior Hero - 4
    [X] Recoil - 2
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 3
    [X] Trump Card - 1
     
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  13. Jim Starluck

    Jim Starluck CO, ICS Vanguard

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    I thought about stopping at a 10-vote average, as that's as far into the future as I'm predicting, but I figured the more votes averaged in the better.
     
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  14. Snake/Eater

    Snake/Eater Myth Maker of the North

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    Done.
     
  15. ViperhawkZ

    ViperhawkZ Emperor of Kanata

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    As I see it, the issue with extending the average is that even if a story increases or decreases in popularity, it barely shows because you're averaging so many rounds. Of course, at the end of the day, it's your spreadsheet, so you can average it however you like. It's really just a matter of my personal taste.
     
  16. moontheir4

    moontheir4 Nothing to see here. Move along.

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    [X] Recoil - 6
    [X] Wyvern - 5
    [X] Trump Card - 4
    [X] One More Trigger - 3
    [X] Bait & Switch - 2
    [X] NSW - 1
     
  17. Navrin

    Navrin Experienced.

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    Suggestion: Weight the results so that more recent votes are counted more highly than earlier ones.
     
  18. Zooboss

    Zooboss Getting sticky.

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    You could also try a regression equation, which should get more accurate the more data points you have. Basically it predicts what the value should be, if the trend in voting remains.

    I've gone ahead and done it for the currently active stories testing the results for predicting the results of Vote 68 (using all available data up to vote 67).

    According to your spreadsheet for Vote 68, your accuracy (for the projected vote total) was:

    Most: 100%
    Average: 96.25%
    Least: 57.14%

    My method:

    Most: 99.77
    Average: 97.74%
    Least: 91.71%

    If you'd be willing to share your spreadsheet with me, I could add in my formulae for you and/or explain how to use the Trend function on Google Docs.

    Tomorrow, when it's not 2 AM I might try making my own version just to see long term differences in projected winners.
     
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  19. edale

    edale Versed in the lewd.

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    A man after my own heart.
    Why not just do both? If you have it set up like I'm guessing you do, you just have to enter the raw vote data each vote, and the spreadsheet does the rest for you. In which case you just need to copy/duplicate the prediction page, edit a few lines, and the job's done.
    this is actually very hard to do with spreadsheets, and would require multiple cells doing background calculations instead of just one or two cells using simple algorithms to calculate things out.
     
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  20. Zooboss

    Zooboss Getting sticky.

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    Dammit. 3 AM. Anyway, have my own version of Jim Starluck's spreadsheet.

    Vote 69
    1. Security: 996
    2. All Alone: 897
    3. Meet the Heberts: 771
    Vote 70
    1. All Alone: 967
    2. Trump Card: 877
    3. Meet the Heberts: 835
    Vote 71
    1. Trump Card: 988
    2. Alea Iacta Est: 979
    3. Meet the Heberts: 900
    Vote 72 (After this, it looks like all votes will have winners in the 1000+ area)
    1. Alea Iacta Est: 1137
    2. Meet the Heberts: 964
    3. I, Panacea: 879
    Vote 73
    1. Meet the Heberts: 1029
    2. I, Panacea: 970
    3. Slippery Slope: 851

    Due to recent trends in the stock exchange, the gains of some stories are substantially inaccurate. Mainly for those stories which have been available for voting for a long time.

    So tomorrow, I'll check to see if accuracy improves by moving the initial start of calculations to vote 59. Which should be when all the current stories became available for voting.

    These errors currently amount to ~256 votes last round.

    For reference, the errors for Jim Starluck's spreadsheet was ~248 votes last round.

    My overall accuracy was greater because I had more votes slightly off than his predictions.
     
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  21. 1986ctcel

    1986ctcel Connoisseur.

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    Meet the Heberts?
     
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  22. Jim Starluck

    Jim Starluck CO, ICS Vanguard

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    Hmm. Looked over your stuff, and I think I have the hang of it... but... hmm. Incorporating it directly is difficult. I can't just track the trend in vote totals, because they get reset to 0 periodically. I need to track the trend in votes per round... but the trend value only predicts one round at a time. I'll need to completely redesign the spreadsheet to invoke it multiple times, once for each upcoming round. And it'll be tricky to handle the reset-to-zero mechanism.

    I'll look into using it for future predictions. For now I'll stick with the tried-and-true method.

    Previously...

    As expected, fan-favorite Wyvern took home the prize and shattered the 1k-vote ceiling. Security! looks like it's going to try and pull the same off next round, but it might fall short if votes shift; current predictions have it hitting exactly 1,000 votes, so we'll see. No real chance of upset; the next story is too far behind.

    Vote 70 goes to All Alone in its first win, climbing clear into the 900s. Trump Card flirts with the 1k line in Vote 71 but may fall a handful of votes short; but don't worry, the line won't get blue-balled because Alea Iacta Est will drive deep into it in vote 72, hard and stro -- err, I'm sorry, I'm jumping the gun here. I should save the sex metaphors for Vote 73, when Meet the Heberts wins its first vote and joins the 1k club at the same time. Perhaps the 1k line is down for a threesome? :D

    Not to be left out, I, Panacea also passes the line in Vote 74 (and blushingly declines Meet the Heberts' teasing invitation to join it and AIE in the boudoir), while Wyvern comes back around for another pass in Vote 75, and may pass 1,100. One More Trigger and Recoil settle for hitting 1,000 in votes 76 and 77, while newbie Slippery Slope wins its first round in the upper-900s for Vote 78.


    In terms of accuracy, we had several stories come in well ahead of predictions this round, none moreso than NSW, which... ah-heh... streaked back up to 91 votes, nearly 40 more than the expected value of 52 -- a measly accuracy of only 57.14%. Most accurate this round was Nemesis, coming in exactly on-target at 100% accuracy. Overall votes were 96.25% accurate for the round as a whole.


    Current votes-per-round rankings:

    1: Wyvern - 160
    2: Alea Iacta Est - 124
    3: Recoil - 115
    4: Trump Card - 113
    5: I, Panacea - 96
    6: Security! - 79
    7: Meet the Heberts - 64
    8: One More Trigger - 62
    9: All Alone - 54
    10: NSW - 51
    11: Slippery Slope - 47
    12: Confrontation II - 46
    13: Hostage Situation - 44
    14: War Games - 40
    15: MirrorVerse - 32
    16: Nemesis - 26
    17: Danny & Taylor - 22
    18: TIED! - 20
    - Junior Hero
    - Bait & Switch





    But what's this?!
    A Challenger appears!

    Well, let it not be said that I am unsporting. May the best numbers win!



    As for my own vote...

    [X] Meet the Heberts - 6
    [X] NSW - 5
    [X] One More Trigger - 4
    [X] Security! - 3
    [X] I, Panacea - 2
    [X] Recoil - 1
     
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  23. Asheram

    Asheram Know what you're doing yet?

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    [X] Wyvern - 6
    [X] Trump Card - 5
    [X] Recoil - 4
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 3
    [X] War Games - 2
    [X] Hostage Situation - 1
     
  24. doomlord9

    doomlord9 Experienced.

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    [] Hypnosis Idea - 13
    [X] NSW - 6
    [X] Meet the Heberts - 5
    [X] All Alone - 4
    [X] I, Panacea - 3
    [X] Bait & Switch - 2
    [X] Danny & Taylor - 1

    Hypnosis idea has stayed the same, the smut scenes have been drifting in and out of my mind lately and I have almost worked up the motivation to actually type them up several times now....but not quite.
     
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  25. Richael

    Richael Know what you're doing yet?

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    [X] Trump Card - 2
    [X] Junior Hero - 1
     
  26. MovingTarget

    MovingTarget Not too sore, are you?

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    [X] Hostage Situation - 6
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    [X] One More Trigger - 4
    [X] Wyvern - 3
    [X] Confrontation II - 2
    [X] Nemesis - 1
     
  27. Yewnyx

    Yewnyx Getting out there.

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    *poke*
     
  28. Fishyface

    Fishyface Not too sore, are you?

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    [X] MirrorVerse - 6
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    [X] Trump Card - 4
    [X] Security! - 3
    [X] One More Trigger - 2
    [X] Alea Iacta Est - 1
     
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  29. Muroshi9

    Muroshi9 I'm so ronery So ronery So ronery and sadly arone

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    [X] Wyvern - 6
    [X] I, Panacea - 5
    [X] Trump Card - 4
    [X] One More Trigger - 3
    [X] Recoil - 2
    [X] Security! - 1
     
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  30. Zooboss

    Zooboss Getting sticky.

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    I've redone the calculations for my spreadsheet.

    New accuracy numbers for the prediction of last vote:

    Most: 99.75% (Bait & Switch)
    Average: 98.14%
    Least: 89.51% (NSW)

    Total Votes Off: 173 (down from 256)

    But here's a problem measuring accuracy by the predicted total rather than the predicted gain.

    Let's say Story A already had 750 votes and it was predicted to gain another 50, but actually gained 100 (twice the prediction).

    The accuracy measured by total would be (800/850=) 94.12%.

    But we know it was off by 50% because it was 50 points off on a 100 point vote.

    So accuracy numbers measured this way:

    Most: 98.33% (Trump Card)
    Average: 87.17%
    Least: 67.88% (Hostage Situation)

    Anyway, on to comparing with Jim.

    1. Wyvern 155 (my predictions have Wyvern getting less votes each round, likely due to people knowing it'll get more points anyway)
    2. Alea Iacta Est 130
    3. Recoil 129
    4. Trump Card 110
    5. Security! 101
    6. I, Panacea 97
    7. One More Trigger 71
    8. All Alone 69
    9. Meet the Heberts 65
    10. Slippery Slope 62
    11. Confrontation II 58
    12. NSW 55
    13. Hostage Situation 50
    14. MirrorVerse 49
    15. War Games 47
    16. Nemesis 28
    17. Really Bad End 27
    18. Danny & Taylor 23
    19. Junior Hero 23
    20. Bait & Switch 19

    That said, our predictions still agree on the winners so far.

    Next Predicted Close Vote: Vote 73 Meet the Heberts (1,029) vs I, Panacea (1,009)
     
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