With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"Punk! Punk is nothing but death... and crime... and the rage of a beast!"
-- Batman, in Batman: Fortunate Son

 

Especially considering there are only 2 left.

 

I can't NOT hear this line in Linkara's voice.

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He doesn't, he's apparently back to being a plant since in Superman and the Authority Lois blasted an Ultra-humanite possessed Grundy with white kryptonite.

On Earth-2 he was an avatar of the Grey. Decomposition comes from bacteria and fungi, so the Grey causes things to rot, so the Grey being the equivalent of the Rot makes sense.

 

I got into MLP late and never had much interest in bleak games\stories like Fallout. At most I've read a Wormfic with Disquord finding a hole in reality when Queen Administrator was doing the Trigger Event and mixed in some essence of the Mane 6 into QA knowing the result would help improve the world and please his Fluttershy. But that's about it. Most of my reading time is taken up with SV SB and a bit here in QQ. I know FiMfiction exists but I haven't really touched that site. I used to be in RoyalRoadL alot till I got pulled into SB SV stories.

 

Oh you sweet summer child

 

Oh her entire reaction to whats currently happening is going to be amazing i can already tell.

She really has no idea.

 

Why doesn't the legion allow people without powers? They must have records of Batman.

 

I have to admit, this is pretty fun so far.

Just blowing up all her preconceived notions of how this was going to go.

Just "Boom" and her entire framework is just metaphorical shrapnel.

 

That's basically true for politicians of any ear, not just the future.

Just say Nazi, you pedantic bastard.

Don't think Nazi and gangster are on the same level on the evil scale.

Their government is apparently fascist and imperialistic.

'She's'

'I give'

'to join'

Now I'm remembering that Karate Kid episode.

I thought Brainiac 5 would have at least performed a scan to see what she is.

Did anyone get the feeling that by fix she meant getting rid of the thing that's changing the timeline, and by getting rid I mean kill and by the thing I meant Paul.

Ohh boy, I'm getting the feeling that she's going to tell him that the Reach needs to come to Earth.

 

I like how the time traveler is the one behind on info when talking to Paul

The wiki has it spelled Legion of Super-Heroes. Should it always say that, or will you be going with your way of spelling it instead?

 

Not sure but it's possible that they think it's too dangerous.

They may have records of Batman however they could be incomplete or fragmented so they don't know his full capabilities.

They may also think that while Batman may have been a great superhero during his time, he may not do so good against the threats of their time, what with aliens being more common on Earth and ordinary criminals using weapons like energy guns or something like that.

They let Karate Kid join, but the guy was a master of virtually every martial art in the known universe and was probably more skilled at fighting than Batman, plus on occasion he seemed to have some Iron Fist like powers.

So while it may be possible for them to accept a non-powered member, the level of skill they would need to have is extremely difficult to reach.

 

Yeah, being reminded of her relation to Sportsmaster would probably make her a bit testy. Thankfully, she's not here to have heard you say that. Now, care to actually explain why you're here, Dana?

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Haha, evidently the Legion hasn't caught up with the tweaks to the timeline. Presumably they're operating off the canon 'Young Justice' history. Which must suck hard.

The benefits of being an SI who's not in the Book of Destiny. I shudder to imagine the sheer number of alternate timelines his actions have spawned since the crossover rejiggered Time's rules.

And to be fair, this timeline is kind of an improvement over that, really.

As covered starting here. I'm not surprised the legion hasn't been keeping up. That may be an entirely different version, given the shenanigans involved with the Legion's histories. And yes, at least three different versions once crossed over. One of the highlights of Final Crisis, really.

Ooh, that's the trailing off of something remembering something.

Time travel fuckery, that's what. Almost as annoying as trying to depict Coil's powers in Worm.

Heh. 'Weren't Supposed To' gets said about and to OL a lot.

Ha, even the Ring sounds confused. Time Travel, man, not even once.

What has he been up to since then? I honestly can't remember... Which, given the topic at hand, is amusing...

Give you three guesses, and it'll be a safe bet all three are correct.

Bluff check: Too high for you!

Honestly, it was them or any of Rip Hunter's groups. There are thankfully few groups who dick about with time as much as they do.

Which was Reep Daggle, Chameleon Boy. Hence OL's realisation.

Good catch, OL. Looks like you really have learned tact.

Given the nature of the culture, I would believe it.

Heh. I wonder if she gets as many headaches over Legion activities as Hinon does over OL's? ...Probably not, that would be beyond human limits...

What's so bad about it? Sure, it's a little 90's... But hey, future fashion loves its' figure-hugging outfits.

...Given she nearly died as it was, I don't see how rescuing her is a bad thing.

Reformed Nazi, thank you. She's trying. Still amazed Overmann hasn't managed to track her down yet.

You seem stuck on the 'Nazi' thing. Really, it isn't that bad, she tries not to be racist.

Such is the outcome of dicking about with time.

Heh. Didn't need a time machine to see that one coming.

True. Magic is even rarer in the Thirtieth Century than it is in the Twentieth. Though at least one member has been a mage...

Well, good to see obsessiveness runs in the Dox line... No, wait, that's bad.

All by yourself? I find that improbable.

...Wow, the Legion really did not bother doing research, did they? Unless this is their research.

Oh, boy. I hope those coins give her mental fortitude, because her mind is about to be blown wide open. Still, it's going to be interesting to see where this is headed, exactly. So much for 'a few days off' for OL, though, because this promises to get messy. Tomorrow should be entertaining, whatever happens.

 

If she says that the reach are 'supposed' to conquer earth, and that without that then the future doesn't exist... then i'm sorry but the future kind of has to go.

The idea of the future as something that already exists and should be protected is pretty stupid anyway.
People in the present should do everything they can to better their own futures, and if that means that some already-existing figure has to get retconned out of existance, then... too bad, so sad.

 

As far as I remember, it was due to one of their early members dying due to their equipment failing. That was what resulted in Storm Boy failing his audition.

Yes, but sometimes this happens.

Thank you, corrected.

Episode?

The SI doesn't know that. I'll try to remember to have other characters parse it in that way.

 

Making a metahuman army using the Hero Dial.

Why do I feel like Paul is going to have to tell them what he did at Vanishing Point, which will probably blow their minds?

Karate Kid becoming a member of the LSH featured as an episode in the Legion of Super Heroes tv series.

 

When you're enjoying a nice salad, and you want that cool summer taste...

Pour yourself a little Reach.

Pepperidge farm still makes their galactic Invaders the old fashioned way, not relying on newfangled preservatives and given that old timey flavor...

So when you're hungerin, and could use a little flavor for your little greens...

Why not try Reach?

Remember the flavor, remember Reach!

 

Soooooo how does the legion deal with the Giff Conundrum?

I.e. how do you define super power when dealing with divergent species?

 

I assume it’s just pro-alien.

 

Yep, the episode was called The Karate Kid.

 

Last we saw of him he got the HERO Dial, or at least a copy of it.

He was with Circe and told her he'd be trying to experiment with it to see how it works.

At least they're bound to be more exciting than the news of their time.

And if he didn't rescue her then they'd be dealing with a Supergirl that has what is essentially a Nazi robot in her brain.

Granted other people may not have been stupid enough to use a Nazi robot for her brain, like the Renegade did.

It really is that bad.

And Mordru tends to be one of their enemies.

This is Paul they're dealing with, even if they did extensive research it would mean nothing since his chaotic nature will just change it.

 

If there's one super team that has absolutely no grounds to talk about time manipulation? The Legion it is.
Good lord.
Their entire reason for being is to derail a dark timeline.

 

Didn't she already hold those coins some other time they met or am I misremembering and the coins were just mentioned in the comments?

 

She told him that she somehow got magic coins when she tried to attack him, but I don't remember the exact episode.

 

That is ... not a complete answer.

There are aliens who don't have super powers compared to humans, even some who have lower overall stats.

 

Yes. I got that vibe, big time.

 

Also it's potentially a viable stance to say that the most ethical thing to do is to always try to change the future. It just requires that you accept the experiences of those in the erased timeline as valid even after they cease to ever exist. Because then erasing timeline A to make timeline B is an act of multiplication.

 

If that happened then I'm betting it's going to involve she and Paul talking, her coming to some realization, Paul asking a question or making a statement but not getting to finish it because she tries to attack him, and of course the chapter ends in a cliffhanger.

 

Honestly, I'm a massive Legion fan, and I usually spell it "Legion of Superheroes."

Very tangential, but I met Keith Giffen (he worked on the Legion comics for ages) at a convention a couple years back. Got him to sign my copy of Legion of Substitute Heroes #1, but of course I babbled about loving the Legion, and his response was to interrupt with a drawn out, perplexed "WHHHYYYY!?" Apparently he really hates the Legion at this point, having to work on them for so long. To hear him tell it, it was nearly a punishment assignment, back in the day.

Anyway, it looks like the softball journalistic standards of her timeline infected Dana with some of that old school Legion naivety. And OL is not making this easy. Great stuff.

I don't think she's there to just kill OL, though. She doesn't seem to have the temperament, and there definitely have been Legion members who would. If she was just there to rewrite the timeline, she also wouldn't have talked about it, first. So either they've already tried and it hasn't worked, or she's there to talk OL into changing his plans, or helping her change go back and change the timeline. I'm not sure whether it would be good or bad to tell Brainiac 5 about hypertime...