With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

eh, this is Fallout. Liberty Prime should be an Atomic Lantern.

"Liberty Prime, we can rebuild you. We have the technology." Including a strange green ring recovered from alien wreckage, jumpstarted with nuclear power.

"Bwah ha ha!" and "He's alive! he's alive!" are all but mandatory.

 

He get's rebuilt.

 

'Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. Better than before. Better, stronger, faster.'

 

And AI pathing that keeps him from getting stuck on terrain.

 

That should say 'then'.

 

Oh Truggs you absolute...dingleberry

 

Paragon thinking he's sane and avoided the negative effects of the Orange Light never ceases to amuse.

 

Due to his ancestry, which would restrict him from political office, or his fight against the Reichsmen?

Ahh.

Well Dr Sivana is a possibility.

He may have at least been in contact with his counterpart.

The guy likes provoking people.

And he may think that while the current members of society are not responsible for the genocide, they're still supporting a society that does things he doesn't like.

Dr Sivana mentioned that the Nazi way of life wasn't all that good for science in that universe, with them just being advance because they managed to make use of Kryptonian tech, but probably halted their own advancement. So maybe that would motivate him.

You did have a chance when the Krona fiasco was finished, but Angelika chose to stay so she could learn more about tolerance.

Well unless they find the whole thing of punishing the current generation for the crimes of their ancestors funny, which they probably would.

 

I think he means before he became enlightened. You could claim he was still sane then.

 

Yeah this is the point BEFORE you take the Nazi into your base where you make sure the Nazi is aware that this is a world were his philosophy is regarded as probably the worst thing humanity has done and that he is expected to keep his mouth shut around the various black people, Jews, homosexuals and varied other people he will likely encounter.... because Nazi gonna Nazi otherwise

 

Reminder that the senior Dr Sivana once captured Angelika due to presumptions about her value to Paul. So the Sivana family may participate in the upcoming demon arc. I’m all for that! Especially since Sivana senior is no longer wanted but the law; that means we might see him interact with heroes other than Paul!

Hoorah for the awkwardness.

 

Didn't think of that. I thought Dr. Sivana Sr. wouldn't be interested due to having learned all he can from demons already, vivisections included.

 

Remember that this isn't Overmans first trip to a parallel universe where the Nazis lost, so he probably has experience in not insulting people simply because they belong to groups the people back home regard as needing to be killed.

And he more or less gave up on the Nazi philosophy of racial purity a long time ago.

 

I suspect it's more his political and philosophical views...

 

He may be interested in this in order to see how long term exposure to demonic energies would corrupt humans, and metahumans as well as aliens, since something like this may not have happened in his world.

And he may get to study what the other Earth became like, and probably find a cure for it, or at least discover how it happened and then other people can use the knowledge gained to create a method to reverse the damage.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Given the timing, and the previous Interlude, I suspect that Krona may be to blame.

 

Wait… is there a demon parallel’s version of Dr. Sivana?

 

I expect both OL and Freeman rejuvenated themselves. So they'd have the same face, if not the same haircut. So, if he's in any way friends with his Paul, this shouldn't be too hard to keep on good terms... Though I expect he'll notice the subtle differences...

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A safe assumption to make, especially since they started with the same colour...

Heh, checking with his daughter if he can be trusted. Karl's quite a reasonable fellow, if you ignore the National Socialist thing.

Because family history was a big thing for the hardliners...

And the likelihood of him having anywhere near the same life in this universe, if he existed at all, is slim.

Yes, that might do it.

I rather doubt it's been over a year since she disappeared. I don't see Karl being that patient looking for her. Wonder if she ever read any of 'Paul Freeman's' articles?

Ah, right. What with the daemonic invasion hanging over Earth-16's head...

And the hypercognitives who could have looked into it were busy with other things, like preparing for the Sheeda.

And yet Truggs managed to, it seems. If not Earth-10 directly...

Thanks goodness for traumatised politicians making hasty decisions, in this case at least. And before anyone asks, the latter world was presumably Witchworld, and the 'man' Melmoth.

And given Earth-10's reigning philosophy, the Sheeda might never exist there. Short of a total societal collapse altering things...

<head-desk> Oh, goddammit, Truggs. What's the bet Earth-Hell tried to force a portal to Earth-16 open, and it bounced to Earth-10? I mean, it's not like they'd care what world they had found as long as they could invade...

Oh, boy... He's going to be very curious about that, isn't he?

Welp. Hey, OL? Next time you see Truggs, assimilate his ass without pause? He deserves it for all the shit he's caused. This is just the topping on a shit sundae...

Interesting that he recognised the name. Historical records from the looted Kryptonian tech, or a meeting from one of his prior visits to alternate Earths?

Welp, Earth-Hell's presumably lost quite a few named superheroes and supervillains, then... A Superman fighting without holding back can make quite the bloody mess.

At least her friends haven't been hurt too badly? So there's that as an upside...

Planning to do a little recruiting, OL? That'd be interesting, having another you running around Earth-16 (since I suspect he'd rather leave Earth-10, whatever connections he's made there...)

Admittedly, it takes a little practice to get to that level...

I'm impressed he lasted that long. Guessed he tried to keep his head down? Probably one of the shortest ring-slinging careers a Paul ever had... Barring any who couldn't keep their environmental fields up when they woke up...

Well, the trick is making sure they go wibbly in useful ways...

Pfah. That's no trouble.

More likely Truggs fucked up hard, and just didn't care. If he's got any historical context for National Socialism at all, it's probably modern, where the opinion is 'It's bad!'

Evidently some time, given there's been dozens of incursions, especially ones Karl's been involved in.

I rather suspect any meeting between the Reichsmen and the Justice league would be... Tense at best.

Kind of trusting, but if what Karl says is true, you have a common enemy to handle.

Things are beginning to pick up pace, it seems. Let's hope Dr Mist has had some luck with Nabu-Hell, including working out who is responsible for Earth-Hell's state and how it got started. Ideally, they'll be able to have Nabu-Hell open a portal between worlds to get back and forth. Then it becomes a matter of who goes where, and how to settle things.

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Angelika's face falls. "How many have there been?"

 

Mr Zoat mentioned that Diana died in WW2 on Earth 10. Will Overman recognize the local Diana? If so, I hope they left the Themyscira alone.

 

You know I like Karl seems like he would be fun at parties

 

Especially with the whole enlightenment thing altering Paul's mind in subtle but weird ways.

I think he's more or less lost most of his belief in Nazism.

Still is apparently.

He may not be that patient, but he also may not have had much choice if they didn't have a method to travel.

That's basically how the Sheeda came to be on Earth 16.

The United Planets tried using material from Starkiller to create a weapon against him and the Sheeda were a result, but society collapsed.

It's possible that they may exist in Nazi Earth's future, but haven't invaded Overman's time due to the advanced technology.

Though they're now presumably in Earth 10's Hell, which is tragic since they're not freed from demon control, and worrying since there is a possibility of them becoming demons.

He may want to stay in order to reform society.

Not really.

On his first day he fought the Reichsmen and was captured by them.

Later he was freed by the Freedom Fighters but was captured again shortly afterwards.

 

Do you ever feel like giving it up?

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Fully agreed. I was responding to the concept that assimilating Nabu got her new arcane knowledge

 

I do not know if I could trust myself on Nazi world with an orange ring.

I would not have the most reasonable response and orange rings do not promote measured actions.

 

Was it Earth 16 Sivana that said science was fucked on Earth 10? Because the Sivana that briefly appeared in Mastermen never actually said why he would help the Freedom Fighters by giving them their weapons and powers.

Or is this some inference from the "Jewish Physics" thing that the Nazis themselves rejected? Because even that goofy bastard Himmler had plans to fund a state of the art physics institute to be headed by Werner Heisenberg. The real problem they ended up having is that, at the start of the war, they conscripted a lot of their scientists into the military because they thought it was going to be a quick and easy thing. Then the war started dragging on and they realized, oh shit, guess we better let our scientists be scientists instead of soldiers.

Because they can't just go straight from WW2 tech to Kryptonian tech. Even if they were handed shortcuts to various answers about the universe, they still had to reverse-engineer that technology and use those answers to develop technologies of their own.

Beyond that . . . I have to agree with people guessing that the demon invasion of Earth 10 isn't deliberate. At least in the sense that they targeted it in particular. They likely just didn't care what Earth they ended up invading.

 

He became a mini Greed snake puppeting a human body.

Sanity has long left the building.