With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I mean getting tortured can change someones perspective as much as any formula.

This all leaves out how paul freeman would be more vulnerable to possession by demons, due to having no latent resistance to magic.

 

We don't actually know anything about how effective or not Sentinel is, and your argument just makes a shitload of sweeping generalizations about how effective a Paul can be right out of the gate despite the fact Freeman got his ass handed to him twice.

Like, unless you think he immediately picked a fight with the Nazis again after Uncle Sam's crew busted him out . . . Do you really not think he did any training at all even in secret before the second loss?

 

Solved by OL necklace and just staying at a distance as support.

The points against it are fairly weak considering the effort it would take to recall the orange ring and making a new lantern. We know Paul can sort out both things in literal minutes.

Minutes of effort for a huge payoff to shore up his position and the position of one of the few locals he can somewhat trust?

It's a no brainer.

Then again Paul is a white guy under casual observation so he has less reasons than most to expect the Nazis to betray him at the first opportunity, but that will last as long as the first genetic scan results come out and then he is an impure mutt not worthy of the powers he has.


Paul is one knockout away from getting absolutely fucked, one would think he would be competent enough to prepare for such eventualities.

 

Toast sandwiches date to at least 1861. World War rationing is not to blame.

 

Ironically, actually possible in the PJ universe if the Disney 'aspect' became the version of Zeus more people associate with him than the actual mythological version of him.

 

Mr Zoat, I just read an old Word of God that the Renegade will meet Euanthe after he overthrows the British government and puts a Red Lantern in charge. Since the latter has happened, will we see Euanthe in the Renegade timeline?

 

Speaking of Renegade do we know anything The Spider (Harold Near) has done since Grayven recruited him?

 

He's likely driven a few people mad with punny names, just to keep up practice.

 

Paul is doing a pretty good job of making peaceful contact with the Amazons of Earth 10. Hopefully nothing happens to ruin that.

That should say 'an'.

 

Thank fuck he finally stopped saying ‘I can make women pregnant.’

Something tells me that wouldn’t have flown here.

 

I'd forgotten about that. Probably not. The Renegade doesn't have an easy way to heal her.

He'll reappear at some point, but he's been busy in the UK.

 

Though their advanced tech may have some defences.

They may be talking about Alan Scott, who they could have met, or they've scryed and saw Sentinel.

Not starting with Eris?

Understandable.

There's the suspicion.

 

So Paul still doesn't say "My ring". Must be habit at this point.

 

Beer. Beer explains a lot of stuff like that (I mean, naming a dessert after a social disease sounds like something a drunk person would do).

Is 'rhpugh' meant to be 'though,' or is this some word that I'm unfamiliar with?

 

Niko Parrish has the angel wings now; maybe with sufficient training she could do it. Renegade also stole the tears of a saint or something from the Alexins to heal Captain Marvel after Ishmael Gregor/Sabbac showed up in his timeline.

Renegade not doing anything about Hell is something I've talked about for a while, but it seems like an obvious metaphysical obstacle to his plans for humanity. I'd imagine he'd want to set up his own afterlife (directly or through intermediaries) with a New God of the Dead or something.

 

Thanks, I corrected it.

Renegade may have honestly forgotten about the dryad he saw.

Zoat did mention that in the future, Renegade will conclude that Hell is worthless, so he begins raiding it.

 

Pony magic wouldn't work?

 

Boooo, quote Mordin properly.

 

He specifically called it a Harrowing, meaning the Renegade's going to do to Hell what the Sheeda do to other time periods. That's going to be bloody yet awesome when it finally happens.

 

Zoat always belonged here in QQ He's stealth turned the amazons into futas and I just noticed.

 

That might be the case, Beer is even more likely the reason some places are now calling it Spotted Richard.

 

Aw, we skipped the meat of the exposition? Still, at around fifteen minutes long - look at the timestamps - I suspect we'd have been bored out of our gourds fairly quickly... Though it's easy enough to grasp the details from context. Hippolyta went out as Wonder Woman, fought in the war... And presumably died.

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Ooh, an entire network of databases, ripe for the plundering. Time to execute [DATA.Nom.Nom.Nom]...

Yay for obsessive record-keeping and history buffs.

Presumably the Americans destroyed what records of American superheroes they could when it looked like the Nazis were going to win.

Though if she's still alive... Where has she been? Why wouldn't she try to return home? No, more likely she is dead...

...I take it that's something concerning Hippolyta, after Queen Ortera's death?

"What a... Motley band. They must be Heroes. No-one else would dress so oddly."

Well, what's done is done...

True. The thing is, would you blame a soldier for the actions and orders of his rulers?

Especially since whoever pulled the trigger of that weapon (I'm assuming something akin to a clean nuke...) is probably long dead, or at least so old that death would be a mercy.

Ah, yes... The 'get help to fight a demonic invasion' bit of his visit. Admittedly, the Amazons have plenty of experience with that sort of thing.

Wounds suffered holding Doom's Doorway shut. Basically, a doorway into the deepest, wildest part of the Underworld. And home to some seriously evil - or mad - creatures.

So, I'm guessing they have the ability to receive transmissions, and decode them. Probably watching news coverage of Reichmen operations.

Let's not, blood is always hard to clean off the floors.

True. He's hardly 'gone native'...

Indeed, quite the working relationship with some... And antagonising others. I'm sure that won't seem out of the ordinary, given the typical Greek Hero.

And a good husband, too. Can't forget that!

And that would have been a sight. Hades striding up to the gates of the Silver City in full war panoply, shield and bident in hand, demanding the return of one of his worshippers?

...Oh, boy. Now the Local Eris will be laughing her ass off, if she's seeing this.

As if. She can barely even see him. Which vexes her no end. The best entertainment she's had in centuries, and she has to actually pay attention to see if he's around? How ironically chaotic...

And no doubt see if he considers them 'iniquitous'? That would be at the forefront of my mind, certainly...

Not quite 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'... More 'The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but for now, we fight together.'

...And with that last thing, he just got a lot more popular. At least he phrased it more clearly.

Heh, I see one possible taker already. Methinks if he hangs out for a bit, he'll likely have a queue of couples awaiting his services.

Ah, OL. Knocking even an equitable status quo a little off-kilter just by being yourself... And the classic question returns. 'What do they want?', Indeed. I foresee the Archon and her councillors having very intense discussion of OL and his offers. Beware Greeks bearing Gifts? Better watch out for the Orange Man, too.

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A picture of a fairly familiar Justice Society line-up

The repetition feels a little awkward. Maybe 'the tools they took'?

He wasn't really in any position to reflect

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Nothing so crass (or fun,) alas. It was more like ring-aided artificial insemination. Albeit using two eggs instead of egg and semen... Still, the ladies involved are apparently quite happy with their little ones... What was it they were calling them, again? The Pavleia or similar?

 

Pavlovas I believe.

I am rereading and got to the Crisis. Is Earth 50 the only one without a Paul? I gound it strange after I realized the other traditionally numbered ones also had a Paul.

 

I was gonna make a joke about "certain subreddits" but your post is better.

"Okay, is it...retractable?"
"Do you want it to be?"

 

I can't remember, can he scan the world for DNA? I'd hate if Hippolyta was trussed up with her own lasso in a basement somewhere like the Musewas on Paul's Earth.

 

If she was just injured then she may be recovering and isn't strong enough to return home.

Or maybe she's ashamed that they lost the war zbd doesn't want to face her sisters.

It may not be too odd to them.

They can just think it's how they dress.

Maybe.

Soldiers have been killed and executed for following orders for a long time.

Themyscira has been portrayed in some comics as having advanced tech, so it may be true here.

Or they could have been mystically scrying and saw him.

Or Hyppolita brought Alan Scott to the island back in the past.

Yeah, they can still see the blood those Eris worshippers left on Earth 16.

Though the fact that he may not want a divorce, even though Persephone doesn't love him anymore and may want the marriage to end, is a black mark against him.

I think he'd use a bident over a spear.

He really needs to learn to phrase things more clearly.

 

He can do that, but if Hyppolita has some mystic protections then he may not be able to find her.

 

Worth a a shot since they have a potential DNA sample with earth10 Diana.

 

It's more that he's wearing two rings, and he could only do it with one of them.