With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Who knows how long she was conversing with Gaea considering magic and gods can use the dream ... twenty minutes outside two days/months/years/centuries inside.

 

Say what now? I still think a Cultural Revolution is the best bet but the non true Nazis are the ones most likely of change.

I thought he said she had to go to the temples of the goddesses she got her gifts from and pray forgiveness and make an offering?

Currently fighting on your Earth.

Given how many 'verses there are with the same numberings? I would say something like "Going to college most students usually gets 1 Major and maybe a Minor or 2 Majors if they are feeling like over achievers. But in the Arrowverse of the DC's section of the multiverse? Earth - 2 has a lot of stupidly smart genuises as the norm. Like it's common to get 4 or 5 Majors!"
All because of that one off hand comment his daughter makes that 1 episode of The Flash.

 

Huh. My pet theory was always that Vaermina is a Zoat Alt he uses to channel his writer anxiety and self-doubt.

 

As with many brilliant theories, it's far more interesting than what's actually happening.

 

No, the Amazons lived on Venus, and used the Purple Healing Ray to basically live in Valhalla-Amazons injured or killed in their battles were just healed back to normal to start all over again.

Wonder Woman was a marble statue animated by the Goddess of Truth, which implies that Diana once again ascended to Olympian status, since she became the Goddess of Truth when Neron killed her.

 

That basically what he was implying, since he was one of the strongest version of himself during the Paul electric boogaloo and he doubt he would be able to take on a demon Superman, he deducted that a potential version of himself from this universe probably died trying or wasn’t there in the first place.

 

I think there is one but of confirmation bias there. Paragon was one of the steomgest there, but that could be because the stronger ones didnt get captured. OL got caught in a moment of weakness, and wasnt even actually caught.

We saw Renegade fight off the Hand perfectly well.

Although realistically the Paul of this reality likely wouldnt be able to get to that point in time to stop the demons.
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Haven't we all?

 

Thought she was a daughter of Zeus/Hippolyta.

 

It depends on which version you're talking about.

 

Huh, maybe that's where the Dresden Codak guy got his take. Did a whole 'reboot' of the Justice League, their villains, and the Bat-Family; WW was a marble statue animated by divine relics and a prayer for a defender. (The rest were pretty interesting as well, except the Cyborg was a little self-indulgent. Flash from India with some of Kid Flash's problems, Manhunter who is a biological nanobot swarm, Supes who's not natively humanoid and prefers working-class unionism to 'the American way', Power Girl who's a Cadmus labs plant.)

 

Unless Zoat says otherwise, I'm going to guess either Blue Paul or Anti-Green Paul, but I could see it being one of the less successful Orange Lanterns (e.g. Paul Freeman), instead.

 

This is indeed correct its very likely the Paul's that got caught were either in a moment of weakness or just not that strong to begin with.

The strongest Orange was our Paul and he was attacked when he was wearing a pink ring, the strongest yellow had no lantern to recharge so probably got caught because of that, we know Grayven (having both orange and yellow) fought the attack off.

Common Sense was in the lower end of the power scale for orange.

I believe Anti green, Raúl and Buffy Paul weren't caught so I don't know if they count.

 

Anti-Green was caught alongside his version of Cheshire when he was trying to stop her from assassinating Queen Audrey.

 

Huh

Wait a sec, Time Trapper got our Paul, Raúl and one more to aid him didn't he? It wasn't anti green?

 

Compassion?

 

Zombie Paul and Indigo Paul.

 

Ah yeah, it was indigo.

He was kinda forgettable and his plot relevance and impact was kinda low, Raúl at least got to go all out.

 

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So Paul is going to get hot and sweaty with Io again, inciting her passions, and leaving her wanting more.

I wonder if Diana's going to walk in on the two again.

 

I'm kinda hoping that Hell Earth Wonder Woman ends up staying with the Amazons of Nazi Earth.

 

image -> imagine

 

Personally I'm hoping Demon Superman is defeated or exorcised or both, destroyed as a threat. Then OL moves the Earth 10 Africans and the E-10 Dr. Mist to the former Demon Earth to start trying to rebuild their lives, and also any Nazi Earth dissident or minority who honestly wants out. Also contact Paul Freeman on Nazi Earth, get him moved and set up with his ring and a working power lantern and have him be the OL for these survivors and new colonists to rebuild this Earth. Also have the Earth-10 Amazons move over too.

Basically leave the Nazis with themselves and any other like minded scumbags. Without new enemies and subhumans to fight, eventually the Reich will eat itself.

 

I mean if I were Demon Superman, John Constantine would in my top 5 "Must kill" list.

 

Ah, but if you were Demon Superman, then Regular Demon John Constantine and Demon Regular John Constantine would be your friends. Sorta kinda. As far as that goes with demons.

 

Basically, anyone with legislative power amongst the Amazons, eh? No doubt expecting to have to debate whether the Amazons will have to march to war or not. And more importantly, against who.

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Of course, we readers know why: A Kryptonian demon named Rakkar. But without some way of them knowing about that, it must have seemed like he just snapped...

Of course, there's no reason to assume anything outside of Earth's Hell had anything to do with it, after all...

Which are also concerns for someone as powerful as Superman. Remember Maxwell Lord? Or Poison Ivy's brief period in control of him during the 'Hush' storyline? Which is why he has arrangements with Batman to take him down if need be...

Best to leave it that way too. I don't think you want to remember those times clearly...

...With who? The hundred-year-old men who led during the war? Most of those alive today were children at the time, or not even born...

...And 'Sins of the Father' is not a thing even for Amazon justice, as far as I know...

Heh, this is one occasion where she could use it sarcastically and not feel bad about it...

Best to group him into 'God-like power' and leave it there. Without them seeing it first-hand...

It's a scary thing, when he, as the DCAU version puts it, is able to cut loose in a world of cardboard.

Unless he's harder than the stone is, it would hurt like hell...

The joy of physics. And the reason most super-strong guys tend to be really big and heavy or have some kind of flight power...

The joy of being tougher than most things on Earth. Who needs energy blasts when you can be the missile?

Best illustrated in this clip from 'GI Joe: Retaliation'... If a little exaggerated. Physics doesn't play quite as nice in that respect as people think it does (The general consensus I could find about that situation was: big, narrow hole, some mild tremors.) But, OL is illustrating the destructive potential, not reality...

In other words, a hand-made volcano.

I suspect not even she thought about those possibilities...

Good point. Unless every one of the Amazons is equivalent to a Dannered soldier, they'll just be fodder, especially if Demon-Superman takes to the field.

And whether their magic from here will work there. While Earth's thaumosphere is reasonably consistent across dimensions (as seen by OL's habitual Rune-stone checks,) I'm sure there are dangerous subtleties that you don't want to run into mid-exorcism...

No, not that smart an idea at all. For all she knows, there were spells on it that could shut her down even if she broke loose of the helmet's control. Best to go in with fresh gear.

Perhaps some manner of mace might work better... Though that's got its own issues (super-strength-friendly metal club versus squishy human bones, anyone?) and she's probably not as well trained with blunt weaponry.

Or does she plan to go over there in a corset and pteruges? (Just.. picture that with a ludicrously long ginger topknot...) I would at least hope she intends to break out the heavy armour.

I suppose she's glad the potential political hot-potato is planning to leave quickly...

And I picture Magala thinking 'Oh, I'm too old for this shit...'

Well... I guess the 'arming up' montage will take place off-camera. Unless we get a scene of Io fangirling over the sheer purity of OL's material supply. Still, let's hope they can prepare well enough before the next portal opens. Though with any luck, it'll be opening to let through Superman-16 and the local Over-family. Because they are still over there, right under Wolf Kreiger's nose...

 

True, though they are still upholding the policies of their predecessors, like killing those they view as subhuman and putting others in crappy reservations.

They are an ancient warrior society, so sins of the father may very well be a thing.

 

Nah, bring former Demon Superman to Earth 10 to destroy the Nazi's, and plunder the reich to rebuild Africa.

 

Although Time Trapper did try and recruit our Paul for a reason. He is temporal counterparts with Trapper, so that could be relevent. But to fight Krona I think he would have gone for ability. Especoally since he could grab weaker key members after Krona is defeated.

So it is likely that Paragon could indeed be a Paragon of ability among the Pauls, at least in regards to ability in utilizing Orange Light. He is the only enlightened Orange we have seen. And Raul managed to get his enlightenment as well afterwards.