With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

So I was looking back to the Fate Fight (aka Duel of Destiny aka "Hyde Park ambush" if you're boring) and after the fight, just after we saw john for the last time, Paul started to wonder what was up with John only to be interrupted. So I'm assuming that's when it started.

 

John also said his battle of wills with Klarion was unthinkably terrible when Zatanna asked. Might have lost some of himself during said battle or changed a great deal. Patching up his mind or spirit with chaos would probably be bad.

 

Pretty hard. She's not really interested in that sort of thing, and would probably appreciate the fact that it would keep the SI out of her hair for a while.

 

Mr Zoat what does Hinon really think of Paul underneath all the fake disapproving grandmother personality? I can't imagine talking to him is her favorite thing to do but with all he's done I can't see her dreading his presence as much as she puts on.

 

Has anyone seen Kratos recently?

 

The SI doesn't know.

Probably.

 

Putting aside the possibility of him fighting Zeus resulting in all the titans getting released anyway, there would probably be an earth left behind which IMO still puts him ahead.

 

Can you provide a specific example? I remember some prophecies that people failed to avoid, like the Oedipus story. But I can't think of any that a person attempted to fulfill in a twisted manner, only to have the twist turn back on them.

 

A good question

That explains it

She's enjoying herself way too much

Paul manages to make even his patron goddess feel awkward, not bad.

Paul is considered part of the Hellenic mythos? Was this mentioned somewhere?

Huh?

 

Show in the 80's/90's/early 00's that did lots of cool art projects.

 

Oh, so Canis has something in mind and this was a reference.

 

I doubt Canis saw the show in the fic(since it's in 2011/12 or something right now and the show has been off air for a while now), but it's 99% likely that it's what Mr Zoat is refrencing.

 

Yeah that's what I thought.

 

At least now we have some extra eyes out on the look out for the Laughing Magician. Also, gotta love the wariness Eris has about John Constantine getting anywhere near an Olympian.

Zeus is at least smart enough to not tell the mortals about the fact that he's mainlining multiple Titans. Is is possible for Donna to eventually do this, since I'm assuming Diana would pass if given the opportunity?

Edit: As Darko pointed out later, I forgot to add not to the sentence about Zeus.

 

He is using his godly powers to bitch about his art not being appreciated lol

 

Ohh, get over yourself, you big psychotic baby.

What do you think?

Of course you have.

Why did you ask him something like this?

Ahh, yeah, Canus likes being ordered around.

Yeah, you don't want a demon getting that much power.

Plus I don't think that Tech God is a Titan.

I think it was just a powerful god.

You finally remembered.

Yep.

Which is code for 'yep'.

Good question.

But Zeus does have a lot of flaws John could exploit.

The guy ate his own kids.

I'd say that explains perfectly how parental he is.

He didn't do that.

Hecate did.

 

That was a typo. It was supposed to say that Zeus didn't tell anyone because even he's not that foolish.

 

Considering John's whole stick as the Laughing Magician is to be able to kill things like gods if humanity needs it finding him might be a priority.

Though at this point it really feels like John uses synchronicity magic to keep Paul away: everytime Paul looks for him, somethimg pops up to distract him

 

Or it could be a coincidence. Even if he is doing that, Paul getting Eris and her followers to help should circumvent that.

 

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Clearly the right answer is to teach Canis the art of politics, and have him mainline several titans himself.

 

UuugGGGgggHHHhhh You just don't underSTAND, man!

Ahhh, it's fine, that's just how things were back in the good ol' godly days. No indoor plumbing, magic still around, eat a few babies, computers aren't around yet, you know how it is.

And of course he ate his own kids, where else would he get babies to eat, huh? There weren't any other godly kids around. What's he supposed to do, *not* eat divine infants? Pfffffft.

 

And you never know, it might inspire her to try other visual arrangements? Imagine a scene of the Titanomachy, or Typhon laying Zeus low. Or any number of amusing scenes from myth. Imagine the visitors she'd get.

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Though I imagine some of hers can be quite a bit more expansive than Canis'.

Ever had an itch you just need to scratch? Something that irks you until you do something about it?

I'm sure he spent his youth doing that. Like a child's finger painting compared to his skills now.

I half expected his environmental shield to flare a little to make a point.

I suspect the ladies might object if you checked. At least, not without a nice dinner first.

To quote Nick Fury in Avengers: "Ant, meet boot." Though i suspect the fight would be impressive to watch from a safe distance.

I bet that would be like using cheap poster paint instead of proper oil paints.

That's better. Blunt, simple authority. That, he understands.

And hopefully he'll stick to that. Though I doubt he'll have that sort of opportunity again.

As well you should. That's the kind of schmuck-bait plan Constantine might employ. Though he'd probably work in a kill-switch, knowing him.

Well, Hekate seems to have shot down quite a few of his possible plans.

Oooh, she might have some idea where he is, if only out of professional wariness.

It's not so much 'lost' as he 'asked for some time to adjust'. OL's just being silly bull-headed about it.

...I would not be surprised if he somehow used his Lord of Chaos abilities to do his own scry-ward tattoos on himself.

And that alone should be deeply concerning. John Constantine is not one for staying quiet or keeping his head down for this long...

Reasonable. But Constantine being 'in parts unknown' is a threat all of its own.

Which would likely come down to 'get a bigger stick than he has and whack him with it' when you strip away any pretensions...

You could be a superhero, you know, with that kind of clear-thinking know-whats: Captain Obvious!

Besides 'party harder than an entire fraternity of college boys' or 'stick his 'little thunderbolt' in anything that takes his fancy'?

Even amongst his own pantheon, there's probably a few who would likely pull swords on each other if not for him keeping the peace. Remember the extended meta-plot from the New 52 Wonder woman comics, where Zeus went missing and the Gods of Olympus effective had an almost-civil war going on?

I mean, visiting Tartarus does do that to people who aren't inhumanly brave, or otherwise unusual...

I'm sure he was...

Ah, the benefits of actually sharing a pool of pop culture references.

In other words, he saw Donna as more useful to him.

I mean, he didn't even know he had a second child until Luke's little slip on the second Death Star.

Yeah, not the best place to discuss the Skywalker family dramas. Though I have to wonder why Zeus never put some kind of magical taboo on the idea of revealing his dirty little secret. I mean, Metis would have been able to warn him someone might poke into it someday... Unless she actually is sabotaging him from within...

I can't see Helios being inclined to mess with his cushy set-up, no matter how his number one worshipper is affected...

Yet more data for the planning board. Though there's the increasing likelihood that sooner or later, even Zeus will notice this little information-gathering party. Whether his mountain-sized ego would feel the need to do anything about it, remains to be seen... On the other hand, he might be amused by OL's apparent hubris. It depends on his mood that day.

 

Did we ever find out what happened to Poseidon? Or is he still missing? Because with the whole connection to the Gods the Titans / Primordials have I'm a bit concerned that Oceanus re-absorbed him or something before he got knocked out of the material universe.

 

hmm, did Jupiter inherit this connection to all the dead titans when he split off from Zeus?

 

I note he didn't mention the whole death and destruction thing that would happen if Zeus was actually removed from the picture...

 

I kind of hope that Paul gets to the end of this whole scenario, and realizes that he just isn't able to deal with Zeus on any reasonable time frame for an acceptable result. So then he just settles for negotiation from a position of weakness. And after that, immediately turns around and doubles down on the accumulation of highly skilled and acceptably moral magical allies, to quickly reach the point where he will never end up in such a position again. Even if that point is decades off. Or maybe Constantine will crawl out of the woodwork, and everything will be resolved.

 

Oceanus beat him but he's still alive.

Maybe.

According to Vulcan, Jupiter at least knows some things about Titans, so it's possible.

 

Surprised he didn't have those before.

Maybe they interfered with the ones he already had.

She's probably more powerful and is walking around free, so she could help him.

 

OL:I may or may not have left the mantles of a lord of chaos and a lord of order in his possession.

ERIS: Fuck Zeus. We're fixing this NOW.