With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Thinking about it, who knows what deal's or treaties Zeus has made over the eons.

Many of which Hephaestus might not know about, if Zeus kept things close to the vest and the only thing the rest of the Olympian's know is that occasionally Zeus would put in place a new "nonsensical" rule that he would punish them harshly for violating.

Would be a great way to screw over anyone who might overthrow him now that I think about it...

 

Had a sudden thought: Paul manages to track down Constantine for help with Captain Marvel's problem. Immediately after having that thought, decided that it was a terrible idea. Like, the way Constantine's jobs usually go, he'll succeed, but only at some kind of horrible cost.

 

Damn, Heph is a cool dad. In charge for five minutes and already springing his kid from detention, I mean afterlife, and giving him a cool car, I mean body.

Though how exactly does this cross wth Athena being a virgin goddess?

 

For reference, it was said that Heph tried to rape Athena but some of his seven spilled on her thigh.

When she wiped it off it landed on the ground and Erichthonius emerged.

So much being done can be overwhelming.

Plus the shades may not have know much about tech themselves.

'in a useful'

 

While it's a nice metaphor that makes quite a bot of sense, I'm not seeing how that would have forced her to spend three to six months per year in the Underworld.

 

Maybe because the gods decided on that to make sure that Demeter doesn't starve everyone.

 

It doesn't. She's not. Ancient Greek writers were misogynists.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Tried looking that up. Google came up blank.

I thought that was by choice. Are you saying you can't make male an option?

 

It's a made up word.

Zotanos is Greek for "Life". Naut is "Sailor".

Its essentially an astronaut but instead of space, it's the living world.

 

It's a workshop, OL. What better place for a proper temple to a god of technology? I trust there's no potentially nasty surprises to be found, though I have no doubt the baroness cleaned anything like that up long before she passed...

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

...And why am I picturing a Kastelan-class Imperial Automata? Clearly Hephaestaean's hand was involved in its making?

Of course it would. Hopefully far enough from town that any mishaps in the learning process won't blow doors in, and are easily cleaned up...

...A reminder: Baroness Paula von Gunther was a Nazi. True, a reformed one, but...

Oh, you'll learn. As Hephaestus' chief disciple at the forge, well...

And yes, that's true. However, Mysteries just sounds cooler.

Hopefully not too much. I rather suspect the Gods won't be able to get into anywhere near half the trouble they did back then.

Sometimes, though, a change is a good thing.

But now it's kind of in your face, isn't it? Bet some folks aren't happy about hearing about the whole overthrowing the King of Olympus. Oh, not for love of Zeus, no. Just out of a 'bah, why do we have to change anything. It's fine the way it is, isn't it?' traditionalism...

No, OL, that is not an invitation to volunteer. Besides, she and Ted Kord would make a cuter couple.

Well, given some of the more ludicrous super-science things around... Even if Hephaestaean can't work with such artisanal stuff as easily as the common sciences, there's still possibilities.

Think about it: the first male child born on Themyscira in three thousand years? I'm sure OL would happily contribute a dose of Danner Formula as a baby-shower gift.

Better than some cities. Chicago, for instance, lifted the entire town a few feet. Because why bother tearing down the Downtown district for the sake of cleaner streets, huh?

...Ah. It's not a simple Golem. Points for not limiting your joint mobility to the human standard.

From 'zo̱ntanós' - Living. Which apparently means he's a traveller of the Living world. So...

Ah. One of the children Vaermina mentioned in a post above. Also a former King of Athens.

Evidently some writer was interested in maintaining his vision of Athena as a virgin. Maybe she was his Waifu?

Thanks to a metaphysical boost from the old man, huh?

Man, Hephaestaean's already handing out cyberware like candy. At this rate, his corner of the Pantheon will look like a cyberpunk LARP.

So, can we expect to see Themyscira become the technologically advanced paradise of some continuities before long?

...No wonder she encouraged Phaeste to do it. No bitterness there, eh?

And when either parent could send an avatar down to slap you one for that insult, the apology is entirely serious.

Lending a hand with some of the more awkward heavy lifting, or identifying devices, I wonder? Or both?

Still not the weirdest birth amongst the Olympian myths. Early Aphrodite, for example?

That's up to the Wizard, really. It's up to him whether to stay on theme or not. No coincidence that all of the entities involved were roughly contemporaneous in the eastern Mediterranean regions...

Sadly, Gods of weather or storm are rarely easy to reach or work with.

Well, good to see some happiness for the person all this was in aid of.

Time for a well-deserved dressing down from his chosen cultural leaders. I wonder how loud the yelling is going to get? And then he'll have to face the music with Batman... Probably an audience with old Jeb, who'll have some choice words on Captain Marvel's behalf... Better get the popcorn or Malteasers ready for the show, folks, this is going to be entertaining.

 

That should say 'built'.

Paul knows that the Amazons prefer daughters, so he made sure all the kids would be girls. If Io were to have a child through another method, there's a chance she'll have a boy.

 

Virgin in the ancient Greek context is synonymous with "maiden" rather than meaning a lack of sexual experience. Athena being a virgin goddess means she looks young.

 

I think Zoat mentioned that she isn't into men.

Probably not for a while.

He probably came from that region so he'd be more familiar with the local gods.

 

hahahaha

soul putting on space suit to walk around in the normal world

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, it's the lack of a 'Y' chromosome.

 

You know...

It's getting kind of annoying how Zoat is editing out every bad thing the Greek God's ever did except for the things done by Zeus...

 

I knew you wouldn't stick with the out of character (for both of them) failed rape story, but I didn't expect that you'd decide that Athena is not a virgin anymore. She was one of the few potentially asexuals available.

I guess if she wanted to try it out once with no complications and with no one finding out then Phaestos was a decent choice.

 

Pretty sure he kept the bad stuff that Ares did, which is why Heph and the Amazons dislike him.

 

I think he kept Apollo's and it's been left ambiguous whether Hades raped Persephone. Paragon values his relationship with the House of Hades more than opening centuries-old wounds. And we know that Paragon is perfectly fine with accepting that a horrible thing can happen so long as it's not his immediate/mid-term problem. That Heph probably raped a few mortals in his time is quietly ignored because he wasn't as bad as Zeus and he is far more useful.

 

I’m more curious about how he qualifies as a ‘demi-‘god when both his parents were gods in full.

Then why are the three goddess specifically described as ‘virgins’ the only ones that never had children or (arguably) any romantic/sexual relationships whatsoever?

 

He never achieved apotheosis, so he remained a mortal. As a mortal, demigod was his limit.

 

She may still be an asexual.

Asexual means that the individual lacks much, or any, sexual attraction to people, but it does not mean that they don't have relationships or even sexual encounters.

Asexuals can form romantic bonds with people and may engage in sexual activity with those people; it's just that sex doesn't really appeal to them.

That thing with Hades is incredibly questionable at best.

It's still kinda weird that the child of two gods would be a demigod.

 

Zoat explained that.

Hades thought that Persephone was a willing knowing participant in their betrothment.

She wasn't, Zeus just told Hades he had the go ahead.

Persephone was therefore too afraid to say no, and when she realized Hades wasn't the type to punish her for saying no, has said no ever since.

So Hades committed rape, but not on purpose.

So whatever possibility for happiness they might have had as a couple was strangled in the crib by Zeus's shenanigans.

 

Why was he EVER a mortal when BOTH his parents were GODS? Is the question I am asking.

 

I'm really hoping it goes the route of having a seperate room/house. I feel like Persephone should realize how good of a deal she got compared to everyone else and do a "stay together for the kids" kind of sham thing. Maybe even have her move up to Themyscira (since it's right at the gates to Hades' realm.).

Only way I really am interested in it going the full on divorce route, is if Persephone ends up with Heph (but I would NEED to see at least a couple chapters of that love story).

 

I don't think she'll be satisfied with that, plus their children are all adults, so it may not affect them too negatively.

I highly doubt that that's going to happen.

 

Now that Hera's dating I kinda want to see more of it is she a thousand years out of practice or does her domain keep her abreast of modern courtship?

 

True, I just don't want more of the same. If this turns into another standard divorce, it just feels kind of tacked on.

Maybe she get's Hades to travel the world with her for her alloted time with Demeter? And seeing the post above mine, Maybe with Hera encouraging Peersephone to give the relationship a real chance. Since Hades was one of the good ones. So they have an actual dating period?

 

So, talking about looking for weather/thunder gods to replace Zeus, I found one that was close by:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zibelthiurdos

He's part of the Thracian pantheon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracian_religion

Considering that he's probably been out of work since before the rise of Christianity, he may have the time to act as a patron.