With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Is the sublime a thing in this reality? I don't think it was a thing in Wolverine and the X-Men either, but Zoat could be doing his own thing.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Cable is mostly puzzled. He found out on canon Genosha that what he thought he knew about history wasn't completely correct, and at the moment nothing huge has happened.

No, he thought that anyway.

 

You'd be surprised what people from the Marvel universe can tolerate.

That's not going to be problematic.

No siree.

That hasn't stopped people and governments from the Marvel universe from doing it before.

Sad but true.

Also true in the real world.

 

Magneto has two motivations for his life.

See mutants survive and prosper, and killing all humans for revenge.

True, what you proposed would see mutants prosper and allow him to get his revengeon humanity by denying them the universe.

However the revenge he wants is a bit more visceral and bloody.

Also this.

 

Heck, it may actually be worse since he could think they're trying to copy mutants.

To be fair, a lot of people may think that.

Plus, it does make for a cool line.

Not to mention he's probably been rejuvenated a few times.

 

Taking all the mutants and fucking off into space . . . I mean, it's an idea. Albeit an idea that implicitly declares equality and civil rights and all that other stuff is completely useless and the real answer was apparently segregation all along.

But that's okay. Marvel basically came to the same conclusion with shit like Krakoa.

Though they had a fun bit where it's being claimed that in every single timeline the mutants inevitably lose to humanity. And not because of extermination, but because human technology just advances to the point that mutants become completely irrelevant.

"Who cares if one mutant awakens when we can freely create superhumans."

Advanced technologies including cybernetics and more AIs and the like allow humanity to just completely bypass the so-called "evolutionary future" people like Magneto never shut the fuck up about . . . And all mutants have to look forward to is being placed in a glorified zoo. Curiosities for the rest of humanity to look and laugh at for thinking that they were the future.

 

I was just about to have lunch! There goes my appetite.

 

I rather liked the idea of moving to Mars myself, but that would abandon the remaining mutants on earth.

 

Sentence confuses me...
Do you mean: Not that he thought if anyway.
With he meaning either the senator or Magneto?
Or: No, he thought if that already.
With he meaning either Magneto or more likely Paul and Paul had already used that argument?

Also what of the argument that humans, mutants or not, are already getting powers or inventing advance shit out the wazoo so more likely as a long as there are humans there will be mutants?
If the sentinels go Days of future past will Paul be using that as further proof of killing mutants as an asinine decision? Because all they're really doing is killing themselves?

 

*cough*

Spoiler: Do they sell Bic's at the White House Gift Shop? Asking For A Friend

 

What did Paul do to make Magneto THAT hostile I wonder? And the fact that Paul went to Magneto for marriage advice... Wow.

 

The Senator thought that anyway.

Yes, but that's a tiny number compared to the number of mutants.

I like to think that he'd rise above that impulse.

 

It took me a bit to figure out what he was trying to say without this word.

 

That's not a valid correction, and that's not what he was saying. He was saying that aside from Magneto there was only one other person he'd talked to at length who had been in that kind of relationship.

 

This is true but i think the person originally brought up magneto and the brotherhood of evil mutants' existence validating this belief not because a single politician believes it but due to its ability to sway others to that position as well.

One nutjob screaming about the dangers of mutants doesn't do much to turn off logic with fear nationwide if he can't point to a large super powered international terrorist organization. So magneto and his team not giving the nightly news a new killing spree to show would help his cause more than assasinating elected officials.

 

Thank you, corrected.

Mr. Lensherr only started doing that after the anti-mutant protests started. This isn't one bad politician starting a campaign, this is an opportunist politician connecting to the popular mood.

 

Wonder why this was black. Killing intent? Because I wouldn’t think that Paragon would feel bad about killing some evil deities.

Shame. It’s my favourite part of the powerset.

‘reinforcements’?

‘tap’

‘so my construct’?

If Paragon means to be using the Latin species name, it should be ’neanderthalensis’, I think. Unless the name was different in the past? Also shouldn’t be capitalised, I think, for both neanderthalensis and sapiens.

 

Correct. Genera are capitalized; species and subspecies are not. Hence (for the latter, for instance) Homo sapiens sapiens is the correct formatting

(Also scientific names are always italicised).

 

Mags doesn't seem to understand that a small number of Genes is all that separates Humans from Mutants, so they are genetically less separate from modern humans than Neanderthals.

 

Considering mutates aren't considered separate from humans, it's actually a single gene difference.

The X-Gene is a single gene, on Earth-616 stated to be on the 23rd genome. The X-Men met mutants from another universe where the X-gene is on the 13th chromosome, though, so that's not a constant.

Which causes the body to produce a mutagenic enzyme, aka mutant growth hormone, which causes further mutated DNA, apparently tied into one's own biochemistry, hence mutations often being variations on a theme in families.

Using Magneto as an example- Lorna, also magnetic, Wanda, also an energy manipulator, and Quicksilver? His speed it turns out is energy based- He met a much faster future version of himself who was faster because he learned how to fuel his speed with the electromagnetism he inherited from Magneto.

That is until Wanda and Pietro were retconned in a way that makes no damn sense whatsoever.

One of Pietro's feats is using magnetism to break out of manacles. While his eyes glow with electromagnetic like Magneto's. So Pietro inherited magnetism powers from someone who isn't his father, uh huh....

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

’in this’

 

Lantern is really good at creating these situations.

 

Was Havock in the 90's X-Men cartoon? I don't remember him also is this some type of military base?

 

"Orange Lantern, just how the hell did you cause Magento and the X-Men to have an international incident in Europe, as well as half a dozen family reunions with people who thought their families were dead, or just happened to have secret kids they never knew about?"

"I'm really good at inviting people to weddings."

 

I reiterate. A walking talking confusion generator. He's like that ancestry tracking service. He's been consistently reconnecting lost family members. It's fucking hilarious.

 

Now who's Lantern looking for? I'm pretty sure he's hit up all the usual suspects. And what X-men affiliate or foe would be on what I presume is an American military site? Well... Let's watch and find out.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

...What about advanced nanotech? Stuff that seems like paper until it gets inside, and then...

Very sensible of you, Lantern.

Ah, X-Factor. In particular, the Government-backed version of the team that existed during the animated series' heyday.

Sadly, whatever he's got to say probably can't wait for some analyst in Washington to go over it with a fine-toothed comb...

And starting a punch-up with the super-team you can to talk to is probably not the smartest idea. I mean, it's a long-standing tradition, but that's no reason to live up to the cliche.

Ah, someone with actual authority? Well-timed.

Blonde, huh? One guess who that might be. Hopefully this version hasn't suffered through the convoluted history that his comics counterpart suffered from.

Though I imagine he's focusing really hard on not lighting up.

Got that right. Heck, her abilities tend to be inconsistent about what she can even turn into.

Ah, yes. The whole 'oops, I just let your daddy know he might have a couple more kids he didn't know about.' moment we saw yesterday...

Probably a very wise decision. And even just coming here suggests he can know more than he lets on, since this is presumably a covert base.

Tit for tat, golden boy. (And seriously, what is with that hair?)

Heck, Lantern could do it, if he wanted to...

I bet that makes it a lot easier to locate new mutants. Cerebro gets the initial ping, then Lantern can go a-roving for a more detailed scouting run...

Hello there, Havok. Quite a few episodes before his official debut, no less...

Ah, the Summers family tree. It and the Grey line are two of the most convoluted lineages in the comics. Especially where they merge.

Heh, a nice bonus. Scott's jaw is going to hit the floor...

How recent a photo? At least the original costumes had masks.

And it wasn't that long ago, even in-universe.

Oh, that's going to be a hell of a reunion.

She never mentioned his last name? Sheesh.

Heh. So much for checking anything coming in. Different rules for the field operatives, huh?

At least trying to keep up the illusion of operational security, I guess.

...Interesting move. I expect he has to give a corresponding burst before he lands, to equalise his momentum and avoid, you know, breaking an ankle or something.

It's amazing how closely related some X-Men characters are when you start poking around... Especially outside of the comics.

Son, he isn't even from this universe. I'd like to see the immigration process for that.

Ah, the classic Nineties look: spandex, short jacket and huge hair.

Hold on to your shiny butt, ma'am, because this might be a surprise...

Just... Dropping it all on her at once, huh?

...She did know Magneto is her father, right?

Well, talk about pulling the sticky plaster off all at once, huh? And all this not even a day after overthrowing Genosha's exploitative government. Lantern moves fast when he's trying to, doesn't he?Probably a good thing we aren't getting more than glimpses, if this is typical of his speed resolving crises. What next, I wonder?

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Animated Havok. Alongside the Government-backed version of X-Factor.

 

Careful, Polaris. With all that "what?" somebody is gonna mistake you for David Tennant.

 

Their dad is in the cartoon too as some kind of space pirate.