With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Holy damn shit what a twist of a chapter.

I also really liked the world-building glimpses of -16. That Kryptonian design for instance. Is it all extrapolated by you, based on various snippets and ideas or is there a comic where anti-kryptonians work more or less exactly like that?

I am also hungry for more. Like, what does a good anti-Darkseid look like, given that he still calls himself dark side? What did Earth -16's government look like and how much was it openly or covertly beholden to the Syndicate? How different is -16 from how -14 was before the Justice League invasion?

Already stopped what? Was he walking towards Harold?

I've actually seen stories and concept art older than that which posited that Superman's species doesn't always look human for one reason or another.

There's something in the unique vibration of each universe that the big brain experts (Guardians and such) base their numbering on.

Actually, that makes me think: -14 Paul decided to steal stuff from +16. I don't remember why he chose that place in particular, but did he use a matter inverter together with his dimension hopping equipment? As in, was he purposefully targeting an Earth that would be more similar to the +14 that invaded and attacked the old Syndicate? Because otherwise that would mean that, based on the local laws of physics alone, -14 and +16 are made of the same type of matter and actually either the Syndicate universe of Blue Paul should be +14 or Young Justice should be -16.

 

Yes.

Moving.

 

.... They're going to willingly infect themselves with anti life, thinking that it's "nothing they can't handle".

Gonna end badly.

 

To be fair, there is the chance that Earth Syndicate is being infected with anti-death.

 

... huh. I was going to make the correction that you probably meant kilohertz instead of megahertz, because ultrasound frequencies are usually in the hundreds-of-kilohertz range, while hundreds-of-megahertz frequencies are usually brought up in discussion of microwave radiation.

But... then I did the math.

Assuming kryptonite is at least vaguely similar to typical silica-based minerals, and assuming that the construct was close enough that air and intervening tissues wouldn't attenuate it, 390MHz would hit the resonant frequency of a crystal somewhere in the 10-15 micron range. That's a pretty typical size for silt particles, which is reasonable for something that you can put in suspension and take as an injection.

385MHz for disorientation, on the other hand, only makes sense if the kryptonian vestibular system is significantly different from the human one... but that's not an unreasonable assumption to make.

 

I always assumed he called it the anti matter-universe personally.

 

I thought this paul would use his newfound power to show that anti-earth's people that there is a better way than the crime syndicate? or is this paul not really inclined to make the world a better place? is he a transplant from prime earth as well like main paul?

 

The Life Equation is the opposite of the Anti-life equation. Would probably be portrayed as painting smiles on people's souls. People just lying there starving to death because they are too happy to worry about little things like eating. Sort of like the movie Serenity.

The anti-death equation, which is unlikely to be used here since Zoat doesn't like post flashpoint comics as a rule, is a horse of a different color.

Well you know how DC nauseatingly overuses popular characters like say Joker or Darkseid until they become mere hollow caricatures of their former selves?

That's the anti-death equation in a nutshell. A fate worse than death where you will never ever ever die.

 

The POV from this chapter wasn't Paul or a version of him.

It is a completely different character that's a native and he has no inclination to dismantle the syndicates.

 

I'm trying to remember a word. It means something like 'define in precise terms' and I think it starts with a 'c'. Any ideas?

 

Closest thing that comes to mind is "clarify".

 

what edition are the pics from? is it the original rogue trader books?

what part exactly is he wrong about? the whole collective psykery seems right to me and fits in to the whole thing about machine spirits....

 

Like Darko said, it's probably clarify.

 

Well, machine spirits are just AI's of various sorts.

The whole collective psykery thing however is just full on wrong. To butcher a quote, there's more under the stars then just psychic powers and The Warp. And what he was describing was very specifically one of those "more" things. And while Zoat could of course change that to make that version of his SI right. That's not a good thing to ever do.

 

The Guardian didn’t seem to think so; they may have just wanted the data.

Or they may think they can bust Parallax out of wherever they put him.

I doubt that the Guardians will create a Yellow Weakness in this continuity; they seem to have both the ability to contain Parallax, and actual common sense.

 

can you cite the quote? who said it?

 

If Anti-life is super Propaganda
Then Anti-death is super Marketing.

 

If you're referring to the POV character from the last segment, that isn't a Paul. That's Joseph Harrolds, the negative counterpart to Hal Jordan, aka Power Ring of Earth -16. He apparently left the Syndicate to ally with Sinestro and the female Weaponer.

Now he returned to his native Earth to kill the moron of Ultraman, handed the Syndicate to this female Kryptonian (I don't know who that is, the negative counterpart to Kara from Earth -16, maybe?) and is planning to get back with Sinestro, do something with the people of Earth 16 and most probably finally kickstart the Sinestro Corps.

 

Shakespeare in his play Hamlet...

 

Best Edition.

No, it's not that. Like, put a thing into numbers.

 

Well he's a Paul, so he's not all that bright.

"surprising"

Not quite.

"pleased"

Or didn't care about the science.

Now I can't help but imagine that ship being Maltusian.

 

I'd buy the theory of the Emperor trying to make his own Lantern Corps for an easy source of super soldiers if it was used for a fanfic.

 

Did this Paul skip the Krona-kidnapping?

 

Hopefully. 40K factions learning to multiverse travel would be Bad.

I don't think it will be, but it would be cool if it was a Human Federation ship, complete with AI.

If it had a complete STC database Paul could basically buy a long term peace treaty between Imperium and Tau

 

under layer that marked the Callidus I saw out as odd -> underlay that marked-out the Callidus I saw as odd
I think it reads better that way but I think you'll probably disagree, Mr Zoat.

 

Hardly the best time to realise you might have forgotten something important, P'Aul. And probably not a good idea to go charging back into the council calling 'And one more thing!'

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Ah, the gentle ribbing of friends. Good to see Bo'ohk usign some more human social mannerisms.

Seriously? How powerful a daemon would have to be bound to produce something this powerful?

Castellan Garran Crowe. Famed for his incorruptibility, and trusted to wield a daemon blade in combat because of it. But he's something of an outlier, even amongst the powerfully sanctified Grey Knights...

I mean, who wouldn't try to reproduce some artefact they love from a manga, comic or book?

Ah, P'Aul. Seeing malice where there is none. You're fitting right in to the 40k universe...

And boy howdy, would that ever be a bad idea. Not that it is a daemon, whatever their fears.

Most human psykers would be 'It belongs in the rightful hands of Humanity!' or claim it 'In the name of Chaos!' Eldar? I suspect they'd rather stay well away from it.

And sometimes, there's such a thing as overthinking it, boys.

I wonder how long that assumption lasted?

Huh. Looking for a private meeting, Air Caste?

Callidus assassins being known for their remarkable metamorphic capabilities. There's even tales of one impersonating Genestealers...

But now you have that niggling feeling of doubt, don't you, P'Aul?

I mean, the Ring probably shimmered slightly. And Air Caste do have slightly better eyesight than most Tau.

Probably running on some passive desire of not dying in a warp distortion, I bet.

And it'd be something of a one-way trip, if he couldn't stick around.

Well, technically speaking, anyway. That particular Ring didn't start out on Oa, after all.

Though it's not like the place wraps around on itself. As far as anyone knows, that is. The DC universe, at least, does have a defined boundary, and a centre.

Heh. I wonder if they'll assume because the stories were made by humans, they looked human for obvious reasons?

Not when one could alter their own body as they pleased...

It probably sounds fantastical to the Tau. Gross physical changes aren't exactly something they can pull off, after all.

Krona classic? Dressed in the 'I hate pants' old-school silver-age Maltusian style? Bet that's a sight.

More fantastical hyperbole, of course, as far as the Tau are concerned... Except that Krona actually did exactly that.

In this universe? There's a lore deep-dive.

Excuse me what the what now? Though that would explain some things...

...Interesting. Could it be as out-of-place as the Ring and its wielder, I wonder?

Is that the Council's decision, or just a personal request?

I guess it is... Though I suspect they approve of the relationship as another lever to manage him...

...I don't know how I should feel about that...

...Horrified. Yes, that's how I should feel. Argh.

Is there just something about P'Aul that has most Tau females he interacts with starting to have intentions towards his... Greater Goods? Or am I reading too much into it? At any rate, this mystery wrecked ship should prove to be an interesting dungeon crawl... As long as it doesn't turn into a round of Space Hulk. Or maybe Space Crusade? ...And now I'm wondering how Tau would play in either game...

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"After that, we encountered the nicassar and orks.

 

Ah yes, she of the fuck-pouch.

 

What, did the Red Queen fling the ship to this universe? She stayed at Krona's tuning fork construction site after Time Trapper Paul manifested his timeline. Wait, could the Red Queen travel to 40k via the ship? She had manhunters and eternity to investigate the ship's functions. Motives...
She has a dream stone thing for her powerset. This universe's Warp could appeal to her or offer something of value.

 

I really hope that ship is the Star Ship Enterprise or something, just for the joy of watching P'ol's desperate attempts at making sense of this universe's timeline/lore.