With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Alright, I’ll try this again with the other topic that’s been on my mind for a while; getting Koriandr a Blue Ring!

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1. Has Alan made any progress on learning to craft a Blue Ring?
2. Paul might not be able to coach him (yet), but would Kalmin, Hinon, or one of the other controllers be able to?
3. Did Kalmin make Alan a Blue Ring in addition to the Blue Lantern, or did the Blue Lantern convert his damaged Green Ring into a Blue Ring?
4. If it’s the later, could more Blue Rings be generated like this? They wouldn’t be able to recharge without going to Alan’s lantern, but that wouldn’t be a problem for Koriand’r if she stayed on Earth.

Did I do that right, Mister Z?

 

Should be “fighting”

 

1. I said none in North America.
2. That was effectively pre-firearms.
3. It was during a utterly BRUTAL Winter where people were starving.
4. I'd bet good money that people in France were eating people that Winter.

A better example is the Wolf attacks that happened in 1917 on the Eastern front of WWI where Wolves supposedly attack and ate wounded soldiers in the middle of battle.
But that was another horrible winter (the worst in a century) and the war had driven off or killed the Wolves food. So the conclusion is that (as with almost every other carnivore) humans are only on the menu when there is basically nothing else to eat.
We hate them because we recognize ourselves in them.

 

Thank you, corrected.

No.

A little bit.

Just the personal lantern.

Yes, but they don't have more green rings and Kalmin doesn't want to.

Yes.

 

Little hard to be afraid of things like a beating when your skin is as tough as steel. Never mind the 'more powerful than a locomotive' or 'leap tall buildings in a single bound' aspects of the Danner-enhancile or young Kryptonian physiques...

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Not many places to go down when you're already that low, after all...

I mean, technically true. Any alien invasion could get you killed in DC. Heck, even a sloppy super-hero fight can have bystander casualties...

So Mistress is aware that those who have given in, who are speaking with Black text, are potentially contagious?

To be fair, with your costume back then, I doubt he'd have been paying too much attention to your face, Arty.

At least you've got plenty of practice...

And I have no doubt he cares whether he's stepped in any or not. What's one more insult to his dignity these days?

At least, not without causing some kind of slave revolt. And given what people are fleeing from...

Boy, the Chuunibyou is strong with this one.

Yeah, he is a bit of a dick, isn't he?

Better to fight that reality than accept it and bend your knee... But he's already drank the krazy-juice, no convincing him...

Or indentured workers. Refugees aren't really gonna be given much of a choice, are they?

Pity smacking this guy around wouldn't get them into the warehouse. But I bet it would feel really satisfying.

Well, lucky for them.

Not profitable, after all. And no street cred in being nice.

Heck, it might be a benefit to their buyer.

The hardest part of an infiltration: blending in.

The second hardest part: waiting for important stuff to happen.

Ah, if only. But being the Illustres' partner has its benefits and drawbacks...

...That is a good question. Never really seen any sort of tourism in DC space stories. Then again, there's usually no downtime to be had...

And few enough people that you don't really have to worry about being crushed.

So there are multiple sites. Probably makes it less likely to lose your access if a site is attacked.

Only if you can be sure of getting them back. Remember what the guy said? 'One-Way'.

Oooh, that's a bad possibility.

Yeah, there is that aspect to it too. Unless you plan to keep the refugees isolated from locals. And even then, there's no guarantee that it wouldn't slowly infect the destination's thaumosphere.

And Lady Luck is getting ready to dance all over their plans, I bet...

Well, so far so good. Still not a great plan, but hopefully three super-strong, super-tough teens can get themselves out of any trouble they might get into. Especially if it's Earth -16, where Ultraman is dead, and the rest of the capes on his tier aren't quite as powerful as he is. Still, they've got to get there first...

 

Eh, he's not doing to well with that plan.

 

Yay!

Does it have to be a Guardian-crafted Green Ring (or even Green specifically) or would one crafted by Lord Malvolio work?

EDIT: Ah, did you mean “Koriand’r” instead of “Kalmin” there?

In that case, why exactly is Alan trying to make Blue Rings at all? Koriand’r would be amazing with a Blue Ring but she wouldn’t be able to recharge it without staying on (or repeatedly going to) Earth to use Alan’s Lantern or having one of her own.

 

I was just wondering if it even had to be a green ring could he possibly convert an orange ring? Paul converted green to orange.

 

He'd have been looking at her kegs after she knocked him down.

Darkseid is basically King Emo, so of course thjse exposed to Anti-Life would be like that.

And I can't help but think that the reason he kidnapped Black Orchid was to make plants that turn people emo.

 

Alan's ring being able to do that was a result of a series of unusual circumstances and his own nature. Any ring that was the same at the start and went through the same process would end up the same. Good luck with that.

Alan isn't trying to make blue rings. He's theoretically capable of learning, but he's an old dog and lacks the SI's expansionist mindset.

Pre-costume. She was wearing jeans and a hoodie.

 

He isn’t?

 

He was just asking.

 

Duplicated repetitively

 

Which under your own rules should only matter if Alan's ring was Orange.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

There had been human kills by wolves in North America, just not for a long while. But the NA Wolves tend to only do that when pushed into it via injury, starvation, or disease...the European and Asian varieties, however, are ones that would go after people.

You also had at least one pack that was going after soldiers and corpses in WW1's no mans land that, occasionally, invaded, or attempted to invade, the trenches.

 

"meant"

Well they are people, just not the usual type.

The tax one is the worst offense.

Hope they don't flash anyone.

 

Seems to need another word on the end. Maybe "in nearby airspace"?

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Excellent. Back to the Emerald Knight. And of course the police are just a bit late to the party. Still, this should raise some fascinating questions amongst the government circles. Especially if they notice just how odd some of the things they're looking at are.

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I'm guessing targetting discipline isn't something the Alliance troops need to focus on, then. More of a 'hose down everything and ask questions later' style...

Like, you know, the legs. If they can even recognise what Roswaul left intact as legs.

That'll be the unfortunate Darwin award nominee who thought shooting unarmed civvies was smart.

Surprised they didn't try to clean up by hosing down the stains with plasma.

That would be the fauns. And presumably the goblins, too. Which might make their footprints mistaken for a small person or a child...

Hopefully they didn't leave too obvious a trail as they fled.

Lots of little things that don't add up, huh?

Yeah, no chance of this being an arsonist, eh.

...Roswaul's work? Or did the golem handle that?

Not if the Alliance grunts knew their shit. No evidence left behind...

Though unlike an episode of 'CSI' they'll probably never work out what really happened, much less in a neat little 45 minute package...

Half-right.

The joy of being in charge... No time to think for a moment.

Oh, right. They weren't officially dispatched.

Heh. A little tougher to fake that stuff this early into the information age, but it can be done.

You realised someone else set this up, didn't you?

Heh. Yeah, this was no simple prank or teenage stunt. Which would probably be one of the possible causes they might have come up with without the hard evidence.

Which will raise all manner of questions upstairs. This might well end up being handed over to the military...

...Well, more than they might have already.

Let's also hope it doesn't turn out to be a poisoned well...

And he lives out there for a reason. I doubt he'd appreciate neighbours.

Besides, a missile strike in rural England might be a little harder to explain than a couple of odd burns and wrecks.

Just in case you run out of flight charge, eh?

Yeah, no. Unless you can make peaceful contact with someone willing to talk, best not to poke the eight-hundred-pound gorilla.

Again, you were eliminating a threat to unarmed civilians. Don't feel too bad about it. Remember it, try harder to do better, but don't mourn the stupid. You'll be crying all day.

Ah, spotted Team Logan pulling their crazy plan, eh?

So, now there's a police record and physical evidence of Alliance activities in England. At least until someone 'removes' the documentation. But more importantly, it looks like the Emerald Knight is about to get to meet the series protagonists. And hopefully prevent some action movie-worthy levels of property damage. Though I bet something will explode anyway.

 

Honestly, most cop shows really shorten the amount of time actual investigations happen to the point that the crime is solved in a day or two, while misy probably take weeks at the minimum.

The only cop show that I think showed a long time passing was Monk, sincer we sometimes had months pass in-universe before they solved a case.

Why if course it will.

 

Better call Harvey Birdman attorney at law

 

’than could be explained’

 

Even most of the well documented cases of European or Asian wolves attacking humans are under extra ordinary circumstances.
Also, to go back the idea that fewer wolves = more Deer? That is true for a short while before the deer eat everything they can and make more deer, leading to a population crash and fewer deer than before.

 

Yeah, but the whole problem here is that we don’t WANT them to eat everything and destroy the ecosystem. If we were okay with that, then sure, we could just wait for a few decades until the deer all starve themselves. The problem isn’t ‘deer bad’, it’s that we like the ecosystem, and that the damage the deer do to it is expensive.

 

I'm just going to redo that whole sentence.

That's why you kill the deer and eat them.

No, I don't like the natural ecosystem. The natural ecosystem has things in it that kill me. Rabies is a part of the natural ecosystem.

 

Rinaker is not going to be happy. Can't wait for Paul to truly confront the Alliance face to face.

 

The problem is that there just doesn’t seem to be enough demand for venison. The deer population is still rising despite the culling that takes place, and the culling is not actually profitable for the government.

I suppose I misspoke. I was referring to the beneficial aspects of the ecosystem specifically. I’m not saying everything should be natural, but that it is beneficial for some aspects (perhaps many aspects) of the landscape to be more natural. There is a lot of scientific support for the use of ‘nature-based solutions’ for problems with the environment, or so I have been taught at university. I don’t care for the aesthetic or whatever, but there are undeniable benefits to checking the deer population.
The deer damage forestry profits by eating saplings, they damage crops, they get hit by cars which can cost money for repairs or even injure people, they disrupt the natural balance of the ecosystem which is valuable not for some nature-worshipping reason but because the natural equilibrium is actually useful for stuff like reducing soil erosion and flood risk and severity, and also the damage they do to the ecosystem is harming efforts to fight climate change by increasing forests and preserving peatlands. There’s likely other stuff, I’m not trying to make an exhaustive list.

Given how non-dangerous wolves are, and given that introducing them will seemingly be much less expensive than culling the deer manually, it really seems probable that it would be beneficial for them to compete with the deer. From what I know of wolves, they very rarely attack humans unless very hungry, and with the huge overabundance of deer they definitely aren’t going to be hungry.