With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Zauriel is a pretty good influence on OL.

 

Zauriel.

Good person. Best character.

 

What about the porn star who drank the evil potion?

 

Good guy, that Zauriel, and good call out on his part too. The Illustres definitely left Siskin as a foot note in that conflict, although he did inform his parents about his passing, I think?

She's damaged, but I don't think that makes her better understand or utilize fear; it's just that fear is one of the only concrete emotions she herself feels or can understand in other people. In fact, I give it good odds that she might be a city boss right now or already Anti-Life'd. She didn't seem to have a life meaningful enough or the mental fortitude to resist it, but she is ruthless enough to adopt it, I guess.

 

That should say 'thought'.

That should say 'down'.

That should say "I'd".

 

Remind me why Sinestro is not willing to lend a lantern just to get a favor from Paul.

 

Earth is Hal Jordan’s planet Sinestro is not going to approach Earth or anyone from the Sol system until he believes he can either win their argument or turn Hal to his side.

 

I mean, some periods of the Joker's career haven't been marked by psychotic murder sprees, psychological torture or lunatic anarchist tendencies. Not many, and mostly from the 50's in the comics. And let's not forget Batman 66's Joker.

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The only way that name could be more on the nose was if his last name was 'O'Kerr' or similar.

Hey, the British villain scene has always been... Mediocre.

Still doesn't explain why some disgruntled cop hasn't made him 'trip down a flight of stairs' or something, unless Smilex also makes him too damn tough to die...

At which point people just go 'Oh, an upper-class twit. Just ignore him.'

At least he was smart enough not to follow the leader that far.

Nah, that's more Jason Todd's thing than Dick Grayson. Usually.

And sooner or later, he's going to try a 'prank' on someone who won't hold back because of 'insanity'

...Can they revert neurochemistry alterations?

Pretty sure after this long, it's permanent.

Though wasting a Panacea on him might seem... Foolish.

Or a crusader for social justice. Would probably not end well even then.

...Speaking of someone who avoided a fate like the Joker's...

He's not a 'master of Fear', to put it plainly. Nor is he interested in ruling via Fear, which I've seen as a variant...

Let's put that above the Godzilla Threshold line, shall we? Right behind Big G himself.

And Hades would probably take a dim view of her being exposed to the Anti-Life anyway.

...Not without some persuasion. Something orange-flavoured...

Especially when the White Light is prone to causing spontaneous resurrections.

Gonna get an expert opinion on the matter?

Nor does he need to eat, drink or shower. And anything more horizontal is kind of up in the air too.

Heh. He's prepared against OL's tendency for unexpected complications, I see.

Kind of a vague answer there, birdy. Let me guess, it depends on who OL's asking about?

Honestly, 'killed' is still uncertain. This is still based on OL's assumption.

...Let's go with 'stuck in a bad situation.'

At least, not in a way that the Silver City would recognise or honour...

OL, that's not really the best choice of words when talking to an Angel.

No excuse to allow a decline in discipline, mind.

Still, that's a big gap between a definite 'Yes' or 'No'. And doesn't consider that he may not be dead.

Hey, he's been a busy guy in the last... Eighteen months or so?

Good luck with that, Z.

Still trying to do the job he was assigned after all this time... Good fellow...

You have to admit, that must have seemed a little peculiar looking at it from the outside.

Guess that settles the matter of going to the Joker or Michael Siskin... Options are rapidly running short, it seems. Fear manipulation isn't exactly a common ability in the first place, and there's a very short list of those who could be trusted to use it responsibly... Hopefully they can find someone to fit their rather limited set of conditions. Or learn to compromise at the cost of their chance of success...

 

Oh, that is such a burn.

And thus is why LePaul avoids talking to you.

Too many uncomfrontable truths.

 

‘sown there as’
or
’down there as’

‘or not’

‘Heaven nor Hell.’?

‘I’d’ve’?

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

There are multiple regions if the world that are shielded. Some of those regions definitely have organized crime and shit. Or, as I said, recruit an alien.

 

Yeah hasn't he stolen multiple people for his corps that were Yellow Lanterns in the comics? Ask one of them. Not really sure what the obsession is with finding an ideal candidate, he's not recruiting for a corps, he just needs someone who can muster enough of the emotion for one blast. Doesn't even need to be good enough to form constructs.

 

"down there as there are"

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

The SI's feeling is that they'd have to be good at it, particularly if he's providing the orange. They also have to be able to function around Anti-Life broadcasters, survive fighting their way to an Anti-Life broadcaster, not be evil and be reliable. If they just wanted someone who could use it at all just about anyone would do.

 

man i wish there were a way to get to Melinoe. even with everything going on, it could be time for Eris to do a solid and make Melinoe randomly appear in a safe zone for transport. she's the only one i can think of (besides Batman) who could rationally control the light of fear.

i had also thought of the Shade, but something about the Shade creating light constructs seems dangerous for him.

 

If you need to get in contact with Melinoe... can't you just pray? If you can't reach her directly, you might be able to get Eris to at least take a message here for her and Paul should be able to reach Eris through direct prayer. Undoing the current social order here is 'stop the antilife' so Eris would probably be easy to get to back you here, even if she's a bit cowardly.

 

The problem with Melinoe, as we know, is that on the Doylist side Mr. Zoat forgot about her. So for the story he most likely already has a character in mind that the characters in-story will eventually find or get in contact; even Watsonian, the Illustres forgets about individuals and allies regularly because he's so busy and has hands in more pies than he has fingers.

So, if Melinoe was the solution, as we know she's the most appropriate candidate, the Illustres and the others would sort through a few options until they decide to go for her and then explore the most appropriate method available to reach her.

That would be the bulk of the episode, because getting in contact with her at this time isn't exactly easy; the Thaumosphere is infected with Anti-Life which may interfere with usual evocations and rituals, the gods themselves seem disconnected from the material world right now probably as a consequence of the same infection, no easy gate to Erebos to just wander in and the Dreaming always has its own dangers, though it's most likely the better option considering Melinoe has something of the Dreaming in her by virtue of her domain.

 

I like the Amanda Waller idea Splinterface had.

Another possible character is Jean-Paul Valley, He was Batman's choice for his stand-in while he was injured.

The Hitman, he is an assassin with a heart of gold, and the heart of a mob boss next to it.

 

This continuity doesn't have Taskforce X, so she hasn't developed that particular skill set.

Currently a Justifier.

Doesn't have any particular skill with fear.

 

If all he needs is "Light Blast", which given he's using the Mask as a stand in is all he can get, why would he need someone who can do anything more then "Light Blast"?

That's a him problem, and not a particularly big one at that given the limited output of the Mask.

You already established that there is functionally no difference in Anti-Life strength anywhere within a few dozen mile of a broadcaster.

You already established that LePaul can keep regular old humans safe getting next to a broadcaster.

And that's only a limiting factor because of all the other problems with his logic.

 

With clarification that Amanda doesn't have the skills due to the lack of a Task Force X, my bet has now switched back to Helmut. Zauriel in South America? Where the hell ritual was going to happen and the nazi clone lived? Hmmm. (And I have no clue who else it could be, if it's a pre-existing character and they're not going to use the Joker)

Depends on if they have the magicians on hand for it. John Constantine isn't available but Doctor Mist is.

 

THE TEAM IS BACK!!!

The main characters who this story was originally built around have returned! And they’re being informed and treated as friends! Things are happening!

I assume that, given Earth’s… situation, even if the White Light resurrects the people beaten to death by Justifiers, blown up by Suicide Jockeys, and other such methods of horrible death, that OL will have to stick around and help clean up… unless he has to run off and fix Hinon & the Controllers. The Reach hasn’t been doing so hot, even with their inner fleets, and that conflict is very Long Term.

 

Is Phobia around on Earth-16? I don't think she was one of the Brotherhood guys Grayven splattered, but that doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't exist. I couldn't find her in Zoat's search history. ('Angela' only turns up unrelated characters.)

Shows what I know, I spent ages conflating her and Psimon, and only just now remembered they were separate characters.

 

Looking at the titles, we had 'Prep Time' and are now starting 'Wait Time,' I wonder if the next one (which will clearly be a while, but now is when I'm thinking about it) will be 'Go Time.'

 

That's already been asked and confirmed as correct.

 

SI could fight his way there with Orange, then provide the Yellow and have someone else provide the Orange, and that's granting that one person can't provide both. Kon or Mitchel can fight their way to the broadcaster, aren't evil, and are reliable. Hell, they probably both have enough experience with fear at this point with their experience wrangling people under Antilife, though it's reasonable for the SI not to know that.

 

The first wouldn't work.

The second would get you fucked by a tractorbeam capable of moving the moon.