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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No, that's correct.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  2. Ciber

    Ciber Know what you're doing yet?

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    Still really annoys me that Paul isn't pulling any humanitarian relief from his corps.Sure, he can't always be around, but he's definitely in the position where having a different OL or some darkstars or even a civilian embassy be stationed on Earth 24/7 would be worth it to the Reach war effort. Even if it only keeps Paul available 1 extra day a year, well Paul may not be able to win a fight outright against 365 lanterns, but he's definitely capable of accomplishing deeds that 365 lanterns could not manage.
     
  3. WereDragon

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    Earth does actually have FTL drives. Superman has been sitting on them and was recently convinced to open up his toy box.

    So what? Both of them were only in school for the social interaction. They don’t need to learn the actual material.
     
  4. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Know what you're doing yet?

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    Huh, had to check the chapter list to see the previous part of this one, heh.

    But I have to ask, why are some chapters marked new? Did I miss them, or did they get shadow updated after I read them? Weird.
     
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  5. Blue1ao

    Blue1ao I miss sleeping

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    There is no Easter Bunny, queen of England, and the princess has always been the princess
     
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    I had been going ti bring up that there are still all the people that Mistress moved from their earth to negative 16. Are they going ti come back or have they decides to stay put.
     
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    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Paul has SI syndrome, SI syndrome is a condition where a character thinks they have to do everything by themselves instead of utilizing other personnel to do it.
     
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  8. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    look -> got
     
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    I believe the idea is that since stuff on Negative Sixteen is opposite, if the people in Positive Sixteen have criminal records then their Negative Sixteen counterparts should be more law-abiding than normal. So they want to make sure all the Positive Sixteen alter-egos have extensive criminal records.
     
  10. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    29th March 2013
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    "…deal to learn before I am ready to assume my proper station as your supreme autocrat. Vote Mister Atom Twenty Fifty Six." He leans slightly forward. "That is important. I will remind you again closer to the time."

    Next to me, Kon snorts as Mr. Atom turns to shake William's hand. He looks slightly awkward about the whole thing. Mr. Atom might be rehabilitated but he isn't anything like resocialised. Or maybe he still feels a bit bad about the whole 'temper tantrum' thing.

    "I guess that's an improvement."

    I nod. "It wouldn't have occurred to him to need to remind people."

    "I meant the way he's not trying to nuke the whole world or something. That puts him way ahead of Red Volcano."

    "Interesting point." I frown. "I wonder why he hasn't ever attempted to build an even better robot?"

    "'cause he doesn't want the competition?"

    "I don't think he thinks like that. If he did, then he'd still be trying to destroy the Justice League rather than learn from them."

    M'gann looks puzzled. "You.. know robots don't have reproductive urges, right?"

    "Well, he doesn't."

    "So why would he try making a better robot when he could just upgrade himself?"

    Actually… "I don't think he has upgraded himself. Learned new things, yes, but his.. physical structure's basically the same as when he was built. Doctor Sivana was pretty literal about it when I asked him to rebuild him." I glance around-. "Oh, look out."

    Catherine Grant and attendant film crew are heading towards us, presumably having finished filming Mr. Atom's induction.

    Kon smirks. "Why do I need to watch out? I just read the autocue."

    M'gann's eyes glow for a moment. "Uncle J'onn wants us to remember our media training, but he trusts us."

    "Orange Lantern!"

    I briefly look up at the heavens as Kon pats me on the back, pushing me forwards.

    "Miss Grant. Glad to see that you're looking well."

    "That's the makeup."

    "Ah..?"

    She notes my concern, and shakes her head. "All I got was a few grey hairs and a few new wrinkles. They had me doing propaganda broadcasts, so I was too useful to… You know." I nod. "I'm on the Botox waiting list, but cosmetic procedures aren't going to be a priority."

    "Have you considered not injecting poison into your perfectly pleasant face?"

    "Sure, but I actually like this job. Can you say a few words on camera?"

    "Y-es, but I'm obliged to tell you that anything I say represents my own personal opinion and is not a-"

    She nods, right hand resting on her hip as she waits for me to finish.

    "-statement of Justice League policy, or representative of the personal feelings of any Justice League member."

    "Do you want us to show the disclaimer?"

    "It'll go up on the League website if I cause a problem. Is this going to be live..?"

    Behind me, Kon snorts.

    "No, if we use anything you say it'll get edited and played this evening at the earliest."

    "That's a relief. I think Batman gets a notification if I get within a hundred metres of a media personality, and given how overworked he is he'll probably need the extra time to get into your servers." I rub my hands together theatrically. "Okay, let's go."

    She comes a little closer, standing side-on so that the camera can see her face. The cameraman aims at us and then gives her a nod.

    "Orange Lantern, how do you feel about Mister Atom joining the Justice League?"

    "He made himself indispensable over the whole Anti-Life crisis and during the reconstruction. Making him a League member only made sense."

    "What do you have to say to people who think that his criminal record should bar him from membership?"

    "If they know someone better, they should feel free to nominate them. There's still plenty of work to go around."

    "So as long as they need him, what he did before doesn't matter?"

    "I wouldn't go that far. However, between the overwhelming need, his disinterest in reoffending and the fact that when he committed those crimes he was about ten minutes old, I think this is warranted."

    "'Ten minutes old'?"

    "He was activated about ten minutes before committing his first crime."

    "And he started as he meant to go on?"

    "He had no idea who he was, where he was or what he was for, and the only people who could have told him died when the workshop where he was built exploded. We didn't change his programming to make this happen. We just talked through his goals with him and convinced him there were better ways to go about them."

    "Ruling the world?"

    I shrug. "Everyone's got to have an ambition."

    "And that hasn't happened already?"

    "No, he'd sound a lot happier if he'd already taken over the world."

    "I mean, the United Nations General Assembly hasn't had a proper meeting since the.. Anti-Life affected everyone. The world is still in chaos and the Justice League is rebuilding without consulting world governments." I nod. It is and we are. "And with the Justice League issuing its own currency, it's not clear that it still needs UN funding. Do you think it's fair to say that the Justice League has 'gone rogue'?"

    I hear M'gann's intake of breath. "I'll call Batman."

    "Already did."

    "The founders of the League didn't need UN permission to fight crime individually. They didn't need it to coordinate their efforts when they founded the League. The charter is legally helpful, but anyone who thinks that they'd stop if they didn't have it is deluded."

    "So you're saying they'd always been rogue?"

    "'Rogue' is what the people who think they're in power call those they don't control. Are you saying that the League are doing too much good?"

    "But surely you can see how it could be a problem if they're not accountable to anyone?"

    "Has having leaders accountable to the electorate every four years prevented corruption? Think of it as.. a locus of power issue."

    She's trying not to smile too much. "What do you mean by that?"

    "The political establishment has power. The fact that the makeup of the establishment is split down the middle between two -or more- competing groups doesn't matter, because that means that everyone participates and accepts the system as legitimate. Don’t like the person in a particular office? Wait four or eight years and there'll be someone else. Might even be you. And in a roundabout way, that's why the United States military shuffles its officers so much these days; to prevent them bonding with a particular group of soldiers and potentially form an alternate locus of power through personal relationships."

    "Superheroes are worse. Individuals who have the power to stand against the state, self-selecting for selflessness and public service. That's attractive. And they don't work for the state, so that good feeling doesn't link back to reinforce government authority or power."

    "So do you want the Justice League to take over the world?"

    I shrug with both arms. "It's not about what I want. What do you want? What do you think a world run by the Justice League would actually look like? What do you think the League would do that they can't do now, and would that be good or bad?"

    She nods, more in gratitude for getting something controversial than because she actually understood the point I'm making. "That's definitely food for thought. Orange Lantern, thank you for speaking to us."
     
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  12. Lazurman

    Lazurman That Others May Fap

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    They know him so well.

    :V
     
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    Signaller Know what you're doing yet?

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    Two instances of "build" should be "built".
     
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    Signaller Know what you're doing yet?

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    Random thought: has the change to Earth's thaumosphere impacted the ability of the general human public to become New Gods, and/or hear godspeech?
     
  15. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Why do they even let Paul talk to the press at this point...
     
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    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Replying to Vaermina:

    What makes you think they let him? What could they do to stop him?
     
  17. Ngamer11

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    Those should say 'built'.

    I'm glad at least Kon has realized that he should contact Batman every time Paul talks to the media.

    Things like this make me hope some of the more radical members of the superhero and supervillain community will reach out to Paul to try and either get his advice or offer assistance. The first one that comes to mind is Anarky, though I can't remember what last happened to him in this story in either timeline.
     
  18. Vaermina

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    Tell him he's not allowed to talk to the press.

    He doesn't care enough to fight it after all. So that should be all that's needed to put a stop to his consistently setting back their diplomatic efforts.
     
  19. Chojin Patriarch

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    And of course Mister Atom is already putting his name out there, despite it being about thirty-five years before he could legally run. And Billy feeling a little embarrassed about being stuck in the public eye as Atom does so. :D

    Ah, yes. Because most of the current generation of voters will be middle-aged or seniors by the time he can run. On the upside, he can get an early start on the next generation or two. :sneaky:

    Odd how many artificial life-forms in comics turn out to be omnicidal lunatics.

    Why try to beat them when you can join them, after all?

    That would get a bit weird, really. A synth so human, it gets horny for humanity? :oops: Well, as long at it understands consent...

    Probably just made refinements to ensure his longevity. And maybe minimise the chance of accidental irradiation of bystanders.

    Oh, dear, here's trouble. I can already picture Batman getting a headache without knowing why.

    Somehow, I don't think she has eyes for anyone but OL. He's always such a goldmine of ratings.

    Surprised she came out of the whole thing in good shape.

    ...Well, okay shape, then. :oops:

    Seriously, that is nasty shit. :confused: The things some people do in their obsession over maintaining a fading beauty...

    This has the feel of a long-suffering and well-practiced speech.

    No doubt many a candid interviewer has had to wait out this little declaration.

    Batman: "My Bat-media debacle-sense is tingling..."
    Talia: "You don't have superpowers..."
    Batman: "This isn't a superpower, just a side-effect of knowing Orange Lantern."

    Thanks goodness for that. No time pressure, so OL can plan his responses a bit better.

    If nothing else, just to make sure nothing objectionable gets said or seen...

    Surprised they didn't have more prospective members suggested. Then again, each added member does make it harder to introduce new members. Unless they finally fixed that little 'unanimous vote' stipulation.

    And besides, I expect his work with the League earned a full pardon anyway.

    ...Heh. I suppose that's a good excuse. Synthetic lifeforms do tend to have moral issues in the first few hours of consciousness.

    And now I'm reminded of a Transformers movie fic which postulates that Allspark-generated bots (like the drinks machine bot or the killer phone) were so violent because they were babies with nothing but defensive instincts to go off. ('Things We Don't Tell Humans'...)

    Which is a lot more than a lot of them get. Usually due to the violently rebellious behaviour. Basically, the edgy teenage years. :p

    And honestly, he'd probably make things better for people than anyone else would. Because happy humans are complacent humans.

    Of course he would. Fulfilling his desires so completely? Who wouldn't be happy?

    Oh, boy, is that ever a loaded question. And she has it pointed right at OL's head.

    Ah, yes. The question being 'How do you stop Superman doing whatever he wants?' Never mind all the other powerhouses on the team. And because certain people in power are selfish assholes, they assume everyone else is. Paranoia at its worst.

    Definitely more than the paranoid ones would like, certainly. They'd like a nice, status quo-friendly little supergroup...

    Where is the power concentrated in this world? The people sitting in marble-faced buildings, yelling at each other over points of contention in their proposed laws and ordinances... Or the people everyone sees out there fighting threats that would destroy the governed?

    For a good example, look to Roman history. They had decades of issues with generals getting sick of those in charge and deciding that maybe someone else could do it better.

    Pfft, no. Can you picturing the Justice League sitting around doing paperwork?

    At the very least, perhaps they'll realise that leaving the defence of the world to a couple of dozen people with no official support structures might make for unwanted stress. And the last thing you want is a stressed person of mass destruction.

    Well, I think he handled that well. No outright controversial statements, just posing some interesting questions for people to think about. And a very good question it is. What would a world ruled by superheroes look like? Especially if people could gain superpowers more easily than they can now thanks to research into things like the Danner Formula...
     
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    Thank you, but-
    -I do prefer it if you can say which ones.
    I was thinking of a Kim Possible fanfic where Shego asks him what he plans to do once he's conquered the world. Turns out it was 'get priority boarding' and 'solve problems for people'.
    What did you think mission reports and briefing papers are?
     
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    Replying to Vaermina: He also wouldn't care enough to avoid the press.
     
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    I'm honestly now picturing a scenario in which the League asks Dr Mist or some other wizard is they can place a spell on Paul that would manifest an indestructible gag around his mouth anytime he even so much as thinks about the "journalist", "reporter" or media.
     
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    Given the ludicrous nature of American elections, it pays to start early.

    And hopefully the humans and robots will be okay with both of their kinds intermingling.

    Though hopefully the robots won't try any extreme methods to fit in.

    Or in the words of Roose Bolton.

    A peaceful land, a quiet people.

    I'm reminded of an episode of Supermansion where Dr. Devizo, a supervillain pretending to be a superhero, has to do a lot of paperwork for what his team has been doing.

    A lot of it was concentrated on the various sexual assaults the intelligent squirrel on his team has committed.
     
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    Galler Not too sore, are you?

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    As much as keeping him away from reporters can be a joke. I do have to wonder if OL has a following that appropriates his willingness to be frank about some of these issues.

    And I'm not just talking about how reporters probably see him as a goldmine of sound bites. But how some civilians can see that he is willing to state his own views instead of how the JL would likely just restate a press release in their own words.
     
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    Why did Cat Grant Age?

    Did the anti life affect the aging process?

    And are any of the negative affects permanent?

    I imagine after being blasted by the white light entity, it'll be even easier for humans to ascend in one form or another.
     
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    probably stress-related aging
     
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    Cat is known for using plastic surgery in the comics.

    In mainstream comics Supergirl was weirded out by seeing her implants with her X-Ray vision. "Why are their things in her chest?"

    In the world of the Crime Syndicate she's basically a young Joan Rivers.

    So this would be stress, lack of her usual maintenance routine, and maybe malnutrition.
     
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    I'm learning.

    The people of Syrania understand what 'technology' is. It's the wheels on their carts, the bellows in their forges and the sails on their windmills.

    Glowing rings that let their 'god' transform a muddy track into bricks, or fly in the air, or know what an animal on the other side of the world is doing as it does it is not 'technology'. That is 'magic'.

    And magic is for gods and their priests.

    That's actually useful, as it's an orange power ring and I was a little worried that I'd end up with people fighting me for it. That's what happened to Larfleeze, and he'd had a lot longer to adapt to his ring than I've had to adapt to this one. I'm a reasonably intelligent man who's seen power rings in comics, not some sort of veteran Lantern; I can't guarantee that a sufficiently avaricious person couldn't take it from me.

    I've also learned that travelling at faster than light speeds with a power ring is easy and that the whole 'most star systems are the star plus a couple of gas giants' thing isn't an exaggeration. None of the nearby systems have small rocky worlds, let alone inhabitable small rocky worlds with liquid water on the surface. I… Also remember that tectonic activity like the Earth has is a product of our unusually large moon and that it probably wouldn't be replicated in other places, though I don't know if that has any relation to the development of complex lifeforms.

    I gave up on finding someone or something by exploring yesterday. Today, I'm in the bowels of the-

    "Through there, Divine Mammon."

    -underground palace. According to the local priests it used to fly, though I'm not sure if that means 'hovercraft' or 'spaceship'. The general shape is.. trapezoid. Imagine taking a pyramid and slicing the top third off. The pattern of damage is actually nothing like that even, but if I had to guess I'd say that it fell out of the sky while being shot repeatedly in the upper parts of the hull.

    And from the priests' descriptions of the death curse on some parts of the structure, I'd guess that something in here is still emitting dangerous amounts of radiation. The priests have devices which can detect 'dangerous magic', but they don't have any way to deal with it. They've actually been talking about evacuating their entire civilisation because they've got no idea how dangerous the magic is.

    If I can deal with it -and I should be able to- then that'll do a lot to put their minds at ease.

    Ring, I don't know what sort of radiation we're looking for, but have a crack at showing me anything dangerous.

    Ah, yes. That's quite a lot of radiation. Seems to be somewhat contained by whatever these walls are made of, but…

    "Thank you, Menelik. Return to the surface. I will have to remove some of the-" Uh. "-protective magics in order to access the source of the poison. For you to remain would endanger you, and you will not be able to assist me further."

    "My life is yours, Divine Mammon."

    I look back at him, trying to affect an expression of paternal concern while looking at a man at least twice my age.

    "Then your life is an investment that I will realise only when it is profitable to do so. And that is not now. Go."

    He bows and then beats a retreat back towards the entrance tunnel. I've got to try and work out how to ask whether the people who live here are descendants of the crew or if they lived here already, but I can't think of a way to ask without undermining the whole 'god' thing. I wouldn't have thought that a ship this size would have had a crew big enough for a sustainable population, not without a lot more congenital deficiencies that I've seen so far. I'd also have been a bit surprised if there'd been enough women on board, but maybe that's cultural prejudice on my part.

    I walk to the access panel which controls the bulkhead door and wait for Menelik to get past the open bulkhead door at the other end of the section. Access, close that one and open this one. Other than the door being open there's no real visible change, the irradiated corridor on the far side looking much the same as the one I'm standing in.

    Neutralise radiation.

    Orange light strobes out into the area around me. With a radiation source still emitting radiation that won't make the area safe, but if there's a hole in the shielding somewhere it should reduce the leakage.

    Would this much radiation damage the ship's computers? From what I could tell, the ship doesn't have an integrated computer system, but I don't know if that's a design feature or a result of the massive damage it took. Why would anyone make a pyramid-shaped ship? Alright, for a dedicated spaceship there are some advantages to a geometric shape. If it isn't supposed to go into an atmosphere and air resistance isn't an issue it wouldn't need to be aerodynamic. And if it didn't use gas thrusters or ion engines but rather… Manipulated gravity or something? Then it wouldn't have to worry about stressing the hull.

    Perhaps it was a space station? I'm not sure that the locals would understand the distinction, and if they don't have a separate word for it then I doubt that the ring would translate the two uses differently. More likely they don't know, they just have a vague cultural memory that it used to be something other than a buried wreck.

    I turn a corner and… Look at a buckled section of hull. Where the corridor was is now rock and metal. Examining an interior map, it looks like this part of the ship struck the ground first and broke, loose rock and soil filling in the hole after the ship was buried. I could just go around it, but removing sediment and straightening up the walls is well within my abilities.

    Ring, any sort of data storage device this way?

    Glowing orange arrows appear in my visual field, pointing the way both to the radiation source and… What appears to be an archive of some sort. I'm not totally sure-.

    I have no idea at all how the ring designates things like that, but I doubt it's wrong. I'll deal with the radiation source first though, as that's actually dangerous to people and I doubt that any data that's survived this long will be damaged by being exposed for another minute or two.

    The radiation source is…

    Um.

    I assumed that the main engine would be like something out of Star Trek, but between the broken pedestals and the snapped off columns containing yellow crystals in various states of fracturing I've honestly got no idea what any of this does. On the grounds that the crystals are probably supposed to be in one piece I scan their atomic structure and use broken parts to repair broken crystals. Once they're whole again I slot them back into the slots in their columns, the… Circuitry? Within, glowing faintly as local power is restored. Fix the wall, fix the… Uh, Scan the intact columns and use that as the basis for restoring the snapped ones.

    Radiation emission is… Lower, but not safe. Scan for radioactive material. Okay, and… I've got no idea what that's supposed to be. Transmute it into something that isn't radioactive, neutralise radiation and then check again.

    Safe! Excellent! Now I just have to worry that by repairing the… Batteries? Generator? That the broken parts of the ship are getting power again and the drive is going to activate and tear what's left apart?

    Not much I can do about it unless I can find some sort of manual. So that's where I'm going next. Fly.

    The corridors zip past and then… A vault door-. A vault door with a powered force field. Shut that down and open the door. The interior walls have thick armour, and I can see where it's slightly deformed from the impacts taken on one side. The interior space consists of armoured shelving units which I guess as designed to survive this sort of event. The rings thinks that one holds a database, so… Open.

    And there's a crystal. Small, oval and unlike the engine crystals, orange. Thematically appropriate, I suppose. Alright. Ring, download and give me the highlights. I need to know what I've gotten myself into.
     
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  29. Mors

    Mors Making the rounds.

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    Does this Paul have a lantern? Where’s he getting all the charge from?
     
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  30. AverusBlack

    AverusBlack AKA Aisling

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    I'm pretty sure at this point that Paul is on a Ha'tak and 'Divine Mammon' is a dead Goa'uld.

    I doubt the stuff he transmuted was naquedah though, because slaves pick the raw ore up no problem and don't immediately die.
     
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