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Band (Worm/Scion)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by BrotherMouse518, Jul 26, 2020.

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  1. Charles Flynn

    Charles Flynn Not too sore, are you?

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    I concur. I've sincerely enjoyed this story thus far.
     
  2. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Alright. Last Question before I work tomorrow and get back to writing;

    Would it be clearer to set the rules of the crossover I wrote in a spoilered Info post? So people know exactly what the stakes are in terms of Scion V Parahuman?
     
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  3. Charles Flynn

    Charles Flynn Not too sore, are you?

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    Yes.
     
  4. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Getting out there.

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    Seems reasonable, yeah.
     
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  5. Extras: The Rules of the Crossover
    BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    The Rules of this Scion/Parahumans Crossover​


    Due to how varied their powers are and how wildly different they are, having a 1:1 matchup on the mechanical scale is impossible without houserules. As the proverbial DM in this instance I have made some;

    Scions are still very much bound to their tiers and Fate, a Pre-Visitation tier Scion and a Hero tier Scion are in very different weight classes and thus cannot really punch outside of them. Fatebindings and the chains of Fate are also a factor for them, thus even if a Scion wanted to lay low in a hairy situation they WILL be dragged back into the conflict they are avoiding. No ifs ands or butts. On the flipside; as Parahumans are Human+ and not supernatural by any means, Parahumans are not bound to Fate or the tier system of Scion. So if a Parahuman was determined to disappear, nothing could really stop them.

    Why?​

    Fate loves humanity and thus doesn’t go as hard on them (as a whole)

    Parahumans who have abilities that can influence/puppet/control people no longer are guaranteed to succeed. At least against Scions and creatures of Legend. In game terms the Scion would have to roll either Willpower (in 1e) or Resolve + Integrity (in 2e) and anything they can use to modify their dice roll or dice pool (that would be appropriate in the scenario) CAN be used. Don’t matter what it is, a Scion of any tier, a creature of Legend of any stripe, can do this roll. Gods flat out negate it.

    Parahuman precognitive abilities cannot factor in Scions/Gods/Creatures of Legend AT ALL, unless that Parahuman is Fatebound to a Scion/God/Creature of Legend. Likewise, Divine/Magical precognition cannot target Parahumans barring that of a God who has a precognition Knack or Purview, or exceptionally high Legend Scion/Creature of Legend who is invoking a title as a Feat of Scale.

    In terms of matchups; it comes down to this. If a Parahuman has the Willpower to do so, if they are in more control than their Shard, they have confidence in their own capabilites, and the more the understand their powers will determine their weightclass. Unless they try to take on a God, Titan’s Avatar, or Titan

    At that point, please re-evaluate your life choices and hope they are merciful.

    THE EXCEPTION; If a Scion/Titanspawn/Creature of Legend are acting in a way that makes something Fated to happen, such as a Scion swearing an oath to hunt down and kill someone/something and taking every opportunity to fulfill that oath. Only then can Parahuman/Shard Based precognition factor in such things without being Fatebound in any capacity.

    Scions and Creatures of Legend are unable to become Parahuman. They will never Trigger. Ever. Period.

    Parahumans can become Scions (and therefore rise to Demigod and God if they last that long). However this is a very rare occurrence and requires the following;
    1. The Parahuman must become Fatebound to a Scion/God/Titan/Creature of Legend
    2. The Parahuman must perform deeds worthy of forming a Legend
    3. The Parahuman must reach a breaking point similar to one that would cause a Second Trigger. (Think of it like a Resolve roll from Darkest Dungeon but permanent; Affliction is Second Trigger and Virtuous is becoming a Scion.)

    Now on to some SUPER SPOILERS

    How do The Endbringers fit in to all of this?​

    Fate does not like them or favor them in any capacity and thus has given their favorite toys (Scions) the means to face them.

    Scions can detect when and where an Endbringer will strike within a week of the attack, however only Scions who have means of Divine/Magical precognition would be able to realize what is happening as it usually manifests as a vague feeling of “Something REALLY bad is going to happen somewhere in that direction” at best. Prophets flat out know exactly what the vague dread and direction is and will either go out of their way to warn EVERYBODY or GTFO while the getting is good.

    Usage of Scion’s Birthrights (their Relics, their Guides, their Creatures, their Followers with supernatural abilities), Purviews, and Knacks can bypass all “resistances” Endbringers have within reason (Bashing damage is still Bashing damage, that shit will not do enough to flow over into Lethal my dude stop trying to cherry tap the damn thing).

    If enough Scions (the higher tier the better) use an appropriate Purview, they can weaken or even negate an Endbringer’s “Zone Control” abilities (Behemoth’s Kill Field, Leviathan’s Storm, Simurgh’s telepathic Scream/Song) and may even be enough to lightly weaken their offensive capabilities (but not negate, Fate still wants a fight dammit)

    How do The Entities fit in all of this?​

    That we will have to get into within the Fic itself my friends

    Why have the Gods not intervened?​

    Again, something we will have to get into in the story proper.

    OK, but what exactly are The Mists?​

    This I can partially answer; When YHVH Fatebound himself into so many contradictory ways as to essentially becoming a crying mess in constant schizophrenic pain, the rest of the gods realized that they would have to withdraw from The World and let the Mortals go at it on their own (For the most part) and limit their interaction with The World to a minimum. Thus they did a lot of endgame level questing to make a worldwide “Mist” that would hide the supernatural from the mundane and keep both worlds save. Sadly it aint perfect and shit slips in to both sides quite often (so long as its small) in the modern day, bigger and bigger shit is coming in on occasion and nobody knows why (I DO, AND WE’LL GET INTO THAT AT A LATER DATE!)

    If Scions are made and active even in the time of Parahumans, where are they all?​

    The Short Answer I can give; They were told to maintain as low a profile as possible and essentially act as supernatural border patrol until given further notice.
    So what the fuck changed?
    We’ll get to that in the fanfic my friends.

    And with that, our quick rundown of the rules is over.

    IF I HAVE MISSED ANYTHING, IF THERE IS A QUESTION YOU HAD THAT WENT UNANSWERED AND YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO ANSWER IT, PLEASE LEAVE A REPLY OR COMMENT AND I WILL AMEND THIS INFO PIECE AFTER MY REPLY. PLEASE AND THANK YOU!​
     
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  6. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    So yeah, im gonna try and use my time indoors from the California smog and smoke to get to writing, but with what little ive been able to do the chapter will be released late sunday evening pacific time at the earliest and sometime Wednesday at the latest.

    Once again, I welcome any and all comments. complaints, and concerns.

    Thank you all. Stay safe out there
     
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  7. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Guys. So I was doing research on Ellisburg, NY for the interlude i'm writing right? THERE'S NOTHING THERE! It's a town of (as of the 2010 census) 3400 people and is mostly farmland, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU LOSE IN THAT SCENARIO? IT'S OPEN FIELDS! FUCKING ARTILLERY THE FUCK OUT OF IT! HOW DO CAPES LOSE IN THAT SCENARIO? I LOOKED AT NILBOG'S POWERS AND WHAT KIND OF SHIT HE MAKES YOU COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY LOST THAT FIGHT? WHAT THE FUCK WILDBOW?

    T_T

    Literally the shit I was writing for how that lone survivor got Nilbog doesn't work any more and now I have to go from an urban warfare shit, to guerilla warfare IN OPEN FUCKING FIELDS. Godammit Wildbow, did you throw a dart at new york state or some shit?

    Rant over, back to writing. Please laugh at my pain.
     
  8. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Getting out there.

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    It was a matter of him building up for about week or two(?) with all that mass as a tinker and some stealth nonsense letting him take the PRT/Protectorate teams, who were there for one part recon/detective work and one part rescue mission so they didn't really have any big guns, off guard I believe.

    After that they had given him build up time and all of their thinkers basically said "If you don't bother him the world has a smaller chance of ending, so don't bother him."

    Not saying it makes sense, because it doesn't, but that's the canon explanation.

    Edit:Spelling.
     
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  9. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Literally they could habe mortared the fuck out of the area, apache helicopters, NAPALM, As I recall; golden boy only got rid of the nukes and the US has the largest stockpile of weapons ij the world. The federal government is more than willing to use excessive force on CULTS in compounds. I guaranted they would habe gone LETS DO SOME WARCROMES on Nilbog's ass, the Protectorate be damned.

    Not to mention. As I recall; it is literally just the town of ellisburg, not the surrounding towns, that got hit hy Nilbog. IT ALSO DOESNT HAVE A BANK. It has a post office, a town hall that doubles up for damn near everything else the town needs, and like two stores. They have to go to bigger towns for other shit.

    I am sorry for ranting but all that progress undone

    Edit: He isnt a tinker. According to the wiki and ts citation, hes a master. He cocoons biomass in sacs and then absorbs it through these placenta sacs in his palms and shapes his monsters.
     
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  10. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Getting out there.

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    Oh totally, Nilbog not getting nerve gassed basically the second the PRT/Protectorate pulled out and confirmed there was no cicvies in the areas to even bother worrying about, purely from a PR stand point of course, makes no sense.


    But I guess the tinker thing is just pretty wide spread fanon then, so sorry for getting that wrong, I just hadn't considered that he wouldn't be a tinker considering how skittish literally everyone was about just nuking him.
     
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  11. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    According to the worm wiki, they suspected he was a tinker that was entirely based on making monsters, maybe a changer.

    On the initial walk in on Ellisburg the PRT would have been able to call on the following for support;

    NSA, FBI, US Marshals, State Troopers.

    Even when shit went sideways if the PRT existed as an actual alphabet soup organization, they would have been able to call ANY of those people to mobilize quickly and efficiently, in fact theyre kinda known for collabing on big unknown situations like this.

    When they were quarantining off the area the PRT would have National Guard, State Guard, Army Reserve, and any and all other branches of the military ready at a moments notice to step in an unfuck the situation violently. Especially with the world's largest stockpile of weapons in the world. Nukes or no; artillery, air support, armored vehicles such as tanks, the works.

    Ellisburg shouldn't have been a quarantine. It should have been a memorial monument to a tragedy.
     
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  12. Charles Flynn

    Charles Flynn Not too sore, are you?

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    To be honest, I think that Ellisburg's very existence is a result of the same trend that allowed Jack Slash to prosper: The government only ever sends capes and the PRT to deal with cape shit. The common, unpowered man is generally thought of as helpless, even when that's patently untrue.

    Personally, I'm not sure whether Cauldron is to blame, or if it's simply a natural side effect of what's essentially a Mycenean hero-culture: the idolization of the few, mighty elites that makes people ignore the damage a team of well-trained normals can do.
     
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  13. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    This is gonna sound rich coming from a story where there are Mythic heroes, but that's gonna change here. A well trained and well armed force cam even take on Demigods.
     
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  14. Miller At the Wash

    Miller At the Wash I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    A bit of helpful information for you, Earth Bet is not and never was our Earth, nor is Earth Aleph.

    Both resemble our Earth but have significant differences, the one glaring difference is that they both have a small city named Brockton Bay in New England somewhere, there are likely many other subtle differences like their Ellisberg being significantly bigger than ours or Dr. Pepper tasting like Pepsi and vice-versa or all the weirdos in spandex flying around.

    We can't know unless its mentioned in canon what changes exist so by definition we can make that shit up!

    Edit: I underlined the helpful hint for you.
     
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  15. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    True. But when you use a real city, do not elaborate on the differences, and expect us to take it at face value. That's bad writing. I should know, y'all read my stuff. It aint great. I am going to take that approach but not to making ellisburg a city. Just a minor tweak that will make what our lone survivor did to survive make sense.
     
  16. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Alright, here over at the Mouse Hole there has been YET MORE HICCUPS on the outlining front.

    Interludes a hefty one and encompasses the last week of winter break and as I've said before; we find out what happened at Ellisburg (don't worry I had to do a big research dive and a retool of the survivor to actually make his survivability "believable"), Taylor makes a new friend and picks up a new hobby, we get a peak behind the curtain of the divine, and a certain someone from Winslow meets our socially inept cowboy in a chance encounter with long reaching consequences.

    In the meantime, I'm gonna tide you over with some of the mood music for this trainwreck of a fanfic and a bit of a informal poll for some stuff in future

    The song that inspired me to write this in the first place;


    I have been listening to the Guilty Gear Xrd/Strive vocal tracks and holy shit they are bangers one and all. Smell of The Game here is a great anthem to destroy a status quo and keep fighting. This version of it is a fan edit removing the "What am I?" slow bit, keeping the "Best Parts". Someone made a Monday Night Raw opening to this by the by.

    Now on to the impromptu poll;

    Which of these revolvers do you like best?

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    Don't worry, I ain't YandereDev and the update WILL come out in a timely fashion. If I over update you on the behind the scenes shit, please tell me. Please stay safe out there and enjoy yourselves.
     
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  17. Assblaster5000

    Assblaster5000 Getting out there.

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    Ah, a fellow man of culture I see.

    As for the revolver I rather like the Remington from an aesthetic point of view, sadly I know little of actual usage of firearms so that's all I can offer.
     
  18. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Don't worry, aside from the action. It wont be 1:1
     
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  19. Simonbob

    Simonbob Really? You don't say.

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    The SAA looks nice.
     
  20. BrotherMouse518

    BrotherMouse518 Getting sticky.

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    Heads up ladies and gents, outlining is almost done on the interlude "Days Gone By" and it's getting a bit bigger than I'd thought it would and with work being on the busy end due to some employee fuckups I haven't had the time to write as often. With outlining being 95% done, the actual writing it out will take significantly less time and no additional research should be required (although Energy Drinks will)

    Please stay tuned. in the meantime here's a few links to some great Scion content!





    I hope you're all doing well, have a good one.
     
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