General World of Darkness Discussion Thread QQ Edition

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As WoD fans, we have been living off text games, Earthblood and...Wraith VR game

We take what we can get.

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being fair from what I hear of the Wraith VR game it's apparently pretty great

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

I'm expecting it to flop, hard.

The fans are all upset because it's not a Bloodlines game, and it's got problems when it comes to being a VtM game.

But VtM may gain new fans.

Just not enough to matter.

Not after the years of development hell. Not after the mismanagement. I'm willing to put internet bucks down that PDX already knows they're going to take a loss.

I'm hoping that maybe they might learn lessons from VTMB2 and WTAEarthblood and we might get a decent game... eventually.

But it will not be this game.

being fair from what I hear of the Wraith VR game it's apparently pretty great

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I also heard the Wraith game is pretty good for what it is.

 

[Gereh]

Considering we now have the reviews for Bloodlines 2 and a few days before release, what are your last minute predictions?

Mine is: Average for WoD fans, bad in general. If I didn't love WoD, I wouldn't have spend a dime until it is 50% off and continue playing the new Digimon game.

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my prediction: "okay-ish" for general folks, bad for WOD fans and really bad for fans of the original bloodlines.

As WoD fans, we have been living off text games, Earthblood and...Wraith VR game

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There also was a Vampire VR Game, called VtM Justice that nobody played because it only released on the Meta Quest. Oh and there was also VTM: Swansong, which wasn't great and VtM: Bloodhunt the Vampire Battle Royal game (It still baffles me that this game has been made). So Bloodlines 2 will probably join the set of recently released VtM games that would have probably been better off without the VTM license attached to it and instead being normal "vampire" games.

Which shouldn't be that surprising, since I'm not sure if anyone making decisions at PDX actually knows what made "WOD" be "WOD" instead of just generic "urban fantasy".

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

VtM: Bloodhunt the Vampire Battle Royal game (It still baffles me that this game has been made)

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I think it's shut down now, which is a shame, because while it wasn't a particularly wonderful VtM game, it fucking slapped as a battle royal.

 

[LeftWaiting]

I think it's shut down now, which is a shame, because while it wasn't a particularly wonderful VtM game, it fucking slapped as a battle royal.

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Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodhunt on Steam

Bloodhunt is a thrilling free-to-play battle royale game set in Prague consumed by a ruthless war between vampire factions. Use your supernatural powers, weapons, and wit to hunt your rivals and dominate the night!

store.steampowered.com

Seems to still be active?

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodhunt on Steam

Bloodhunt is a thrilling free-to-play battle royale game set in Prague consumed by a ruthless war between vampire factions. Use your supernatural powers, weapons, and wit to hunt your rivals and dominate the night!

store.steampowered.com

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Ah, I heard they shut down or were planning to shut down the servers.

My computer and internet are now shit, so I haven't been able to play.

 

[Gereh]

I think it's shut down now, which is a shame, because while it wasn't a particularly wonderful VtM game, it fucking slapped as a battle royal.

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I couldn't tell you. I never played Battle Royals but from what I read on the internet it seems like it was a pretty good one. Still from my understanding they tried to market it towards "WOD fans" which I don't think is the right target audience for a battle royal.

 

[Skitzyfrenic]

I couldn't tell you. I never played Battle Royals but from what I read on the internet it seems like it was a pretty good one. Still from my understanding they tried to market it towards "WOD fans" which I don't think is the right target audience for a battle royal.

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Oh, it 100% came out of left field. Most WoD fans were flabbergasted, from what I can remember.

And it definitely came out way too late for battle royal fans.

 

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reviews are starting to come out

 

[shadowdice]

One reaction I loved was "why do they pause the game in the first two minutes to make me Have to kill a guy, with the button and the screen and time slowed down so I have to kill both of them. Why not a cutscene. Why not have a branching storyline where you don't kill the first one and you are carried forward, meet the other guy and have them wondering what is going on with you getting to use persuasion" followed by laughing at how a punch just obliterates people

Which is honestly right in that the powers seem fun but you should have the choice

Another guy who kept thanking paradox was going on about how "open" the game is because of the climbing when it felt like the other game had more stuff around despite it

 

[Maragas]

Crossposting this from SB.
Edit: Fixed the images.

Here we go. Lets call this Part 1 of my live musings on Bloodlines 2
This might come across as a weird complaint...I want to feel like a badass Elder vampire. But I am not going to play a mode easier than even easy and without combat achievements. This already tripped a flag for me since a decent part of why you play an Elder is because they are badass. Even our Elder agrees!

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So you are forced to feed and most likely kill someone who looks to be a swell guy who thought you were hurt and needed help. Not surprising but I wish I had more control over it.
We either have Potence or 5+ Strength because our MC just ragdolled a dude to a door and bounced him off it. No other explanation.
Fabien sounds great. Our Elder? Eh... I will give him more chances first. Maybe when I choose Ventrue he will suddenly get way better.
Yooo, Luchador mentioned!

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We have Telekinesis even without choosing a clan, huh. Wait, are we a Thaumaturge then? What does the codex say? "The Nomad has learned this ability during their lengthy existence" lol
I accidentally grabbed the police with telekinesis and Fabien went "NO PHYRE" like a panicked mom. Hilarious.
We can...glide? How? Codex please explain?! "This is another tool that The Nomad has made a part of their skillset"...you are very helpful Codex. Thank you.
Here Fabien is screaming like a mother hen whenever I try to kill the cops and bam, here is a Ghoul who killed a police. Double standards I say.
Wait? You want me to kill them? Because there are tons of Ghouls here and they can break the masquerade? I am pretty sure leaving a bunch of corpses will also break it...yeah whatever. Let's kill some Anarch Ghouls.
"Mending Elixir" man, what a find in an abandoned crackhouse hotel.
What kind of Anarch Ghouls are these? They sound like Sabbat. "Kill the cops, kill the intruders and mount their heads to the wall"
Soo many reused assets. Like painting and wall graffiti.
Wooo "Potence Elixir", people are leaving magical stuff everywhere.
The Nomed, our MC, had a part in the Crimerian War to defend his homeland. Interesting.
Time to choose a clan! Ventrue here I co- wait, only two Disciplines have a reduced cost? Dominate and Presence? Where is my beloved Fortitude? It mentions Ventrue's "Resiliance" in the description. This aside, It is also the Easy choice, compared to the other clans.
Level 2 and the first look at the ability tree...Yep, there is no Fortitude tree. Expect for just a passive for Ventrue. Very disappointed.
Yooo, radio host is back. Finally something nostalgic.

Man, Seattle is shittier than I realized, there is a pool of blood and it's corpse right next to the main road.

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I just killed a dude, caused a Masquerade breach and then hid away until it is fixed. It was pretty fun. But I have to say, not having to worry about Humanity is strange.

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I am pretty sure I have no feeding preference, even though I am a Ventrue. Sure, I don't expect to choose, say, Blonde Women or anything specific like that but OG Bloodlines at least made it so that you can't feed on animals, poor and homeless.

This is it for now. I need to sleep.

 

[LeftWaiting]

I am pretty sure I have no feeding preference, even though I am a Ventrue. Sure, I don't expect to choose, say, Blonde Women or anything specific like that but OG Bloodlines at least made it so that you can't feed on animals, poor and homeless.

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In V5 it's Ventrue need to spend Willpower to feed on those outside of their preference, but they can still do it whenever they like as long as they are willing to pay that price.

 

[Maragas]

In V5 it's Ventrue need to spend Willpower to feed on those outside of their preference, but they can still do it whenever they like as long as they are willing to pay that price.

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And in Bloodlines 2 I haven't seen even mention of any Clan drawbacks nor Willpower
I just accept that it is a fact of life for Nomad. Maybe he learned it from the same place he learned to glide.

 

[shadowdice]

And in Bloodlines 2 I haven't seen even mention of any Clan drawbacks nor Willpower
I just accept that it is a fact of life for Nomad. Maybe he learned it from the same place he learned to glide.

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I can explain gliding as being under telekinesis as enough points in it lets you fly but the fact that they don't explain it makes me think they either reused assets from the previous version or went "what are vampire powers?"

That they don't have fortitude for Ventrue is stupid