NSFW, RSS and Login Verification

[Arne_Jacob]

Hey, I have a bug report (?) about QQ and RSS. I'm trying to add RSS links from the NSFW section of QQ to a discord bot for update alerts on a server of mine, but it only returns a 403 - Forbidden error, because it needs you to be logged in even for the RSS feed. I'm wondering if this is intended behavior or an error, as it doesn't seem particularly useful to have a feed that doesn't work unless used from specific clients.

 

[Biigoh]

I didn't even know we had RSS on QQ....

You might wanna ask alethiophile or ultima333 about this

 

[Arne_Jacob]

I didn't even know we had RSS on QQ....

You might wanna ask alethiophile or ultima333 about this

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Thanks, will do!

 

[alethiophile]

If RSS worked from a client that wasn't logged in, it would defeat the purpose of keeping the NSFW subforums invisible to non-logged-in users. This is in fact the intended behavior.

I'm not sure what the easiest way is to make an RSS client log in to the site.

 

[Arne_Jacob]

If RSS worked from a client that wasn't logged in, it would defeat the purpose of keeping the NSFW subforums invisible to non-logged-in users. This is in fact the intended behavior.

I'm not sure what the easiest way is to make an RSS client log in to the site.

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Yeah, that's what I assumed. Using a local browser extension lets me log in to the site, but that doesn't work for the purpose I want to use the RSS feed for - by the simple fact that it's local only.


Additionally, the only information the RSS feed delivers is:

• There has been a new threadmark made
• The author of the story
• The date of the update
• A short description of the update (Usually an author's note.)
• A link to the post

Of these, the only thing that personally I think is justified being hidden away from non-logged-in clients is the description part, but maybe that's just me. If there was a way to get a stripped down feed or something that would be awesome, but if not then whatever... I suppose I could experiment with desktop RSS clients or something, maybe one of them can pass to webhooks.

Either way, thanks for the answer.

 

[KnotMyProblem]

Might be thread necromancy but I was having a similar issue and thought I'd comment on what I found. XenForo, the software this site uses, doesn't support inline authentication and only authenticates via Cookies and active sessions. This isn't an issue on some sites like SB where everything is public, but since QQ requires authentication for most read access this means most RSS readers won't work.

 

[Omniscopia]

I used FeedBro browser plugin, but it stopped working after XenForo update. I still could add feeds, but thereafter they cannot be updated.

I tried RSS Guard, but it cannot add feeds at all, even with try of authentication: "Status: network error (access to content was denied)"

Does anyone still use Q.Q. RSS successfully?


P.S. FeedBro stopped working with SB and SV as well. RSS Guard work with both.

 

[PDV]

I've been following With This Ring (not NSFW) by RSS for years, and it has entirely broken this month. I tried reconnecting to the threadmark RSS, and that got a new set of 10 entries but immediately stopped working. Both subscriptions were to https://forum.questionablequesting....en.8938/threadmarks.rss?threadmark_category=1. First failure August 9th, failure discovered, reconnected, and re-failed August 20th.

 

[dariosin]

RSS feed is the way i follows all the stories in various forums and platforms all these years, is there any solution or workaround for this?

 

[TheMidnightRook]

RSS feed is the way i follows all the stories in various forums and platforms all these years, is there any solution or workaround for this?

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Click the "watch thread" button.

 

[KnotMyProblem]

RSS feed is the way i follows all the stories in various forums and platforms all these years, is there any solution or workaround for this?

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It's been really annoying me. SB, RR, SV, AO3, and most other sites having working RSS. Usually I'll read a chapter right from the RSS reader rather than opening the main site (it makes reading on mobile way easier). QQ is the only site I regularly use where it doesn't work and it's pretty annoying.

 

[PDV]

Click the "watch thread" button.

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I did, long ago; it doesn't help. Only works if you remember to check the forum without prompting. I don't; RSS is the way I keep track of everything that periodically has something new. (Except chatrooms, and I don't remember to check most of those all that often.) There's a lot of people here mostly to follow stories/quests, I'm pretty sure, and I'd bet most of them are in a similar boat. People who post more actively I'm sure don't have that problem.

@alethiophile , @ultima333 , have you looked into this at all? Much appreciated.

 

[AztecCroc]

I did, long ago; it doesn't help. Only works if you remember to check the forum without prompting. I don't; RSS is the way I keep track of everything that periodically has something new. (Except chatrooms, and I don't remember to check most of those all that often.) There's a lot of people here mostly to follow stories/quests, I'm pretty sure, and I'd bet most of them are in a similar boat. People who post more actively I'm sure don't have that problem.

@alethiophile , @ultima333 , have you looked into this at all? Much appreciated.

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Turn on email notifications then.

 

[SnarkLord]

I..don't want to sound like an asshole, even accidentally, it....email notifs exist for a reason.
Mainly so people *don't* have to constantly manually check the website if anything they follow has updated.
And I'm pretty sure that a supermajority of users use this option.
And as alethiopile said, part of QQ being locked away from non-users is intentional design, which is likely never ever being changed.
If part of that design happens to break your RSS, sorry but you'll have to deal with it...there's little reason why admins/mods would be interested in figuring out a stable working RSS when email notification already works without an issue

 

[UserNameRandom?]

I'm not sure what the easiest way is to make an RSS client log in to the site.

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Alright, cards on the table. I just spent a couple of minutes looking up documentation and managed to put together a working python script for RSS guard. It uses cookies to authenticate, so users will need to grab those themselves.

I don't really use RSS, so I'm not entirely sure what's normal here, but it's basically a python script that RSS Guard calls.

I would rather not post it without explicit permission from the admins, though. As it curls the site with authentication cookies-- 'xf_user', 'xf_csrf', and 'xf_session'--, I want to make sure they're completely fine with it first.

It seems to work, It seems to list everything right, but once again in fear of repetition that I do not use RSS in my day to day life and I have no idea what the real use case of rss looks like.