[RWBY] RWBY Shorts

[AndrewJTalon]

I think it would be funnier if they led to Raven trying to win Taiyang back (she still loves him despite everything, after all); even taking after her "Dad" and doing guitar serenades.

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Hmmm... Yeah that would be much funnier.

 

[Handspan]

Hmmm... Yeah that would be much funnier.

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A 40-year-old woman asking her 17-year-old "dad" on how to win a man over.

 

[NightDranzer]

A 40-year-old woman asking her 17-year-old "dad" on how to win a man over.

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Like I keep saying; the best way to write RWBY is to apply the Toriyama School of Plot Writing (Rule of Cool and Rule of Funny reign supreme, with Rule of Drama and Shipping only sprinkled in here and there for spice), while supplementing it with Oda's School of Plot Consistency.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

I had an idea for Adam. Based on Sasuke Uchiha and Zechs Merquise.

Sasuke wanted to become a threat to keep the world united together against a common enemy. He reasoned that without a common enemy, there would be no incentive for peace. Zechs Merquise did the same.

So in much the same way, Adam... Is an idealist. He wants Faunus and human equality. He wants peace. He wants Blake's dream... But his way to achieve it is to become the ultimate bad guy. He joins Salem as her Dark Knight and encourages her to show herself to the world. To unite the world against Salem. And he is willing to give up his life to help facilitate true peace and victory over her.

In other words he's just as much of a drama queen as Blake.

 

[Handspan]

That would certainly work better than creepy controlling stalker. Once more crwby dropped the ball unfortunately. There is so much potential in rwby.

 

[LordofBones]

Jaune as a member of the Men in Black.

*It's night and Team RWBY is about to turn in before the door slams open. Jaune walks in wearing a black formal suit, amidst the girls' shrieks*

Weiss: "Arc, you depraved pervert! Get out!"

*Jaune holds up a small remote and presses it. The nearby wall folds and retracts, revealing a massive futuristic armory. Ruby starts drooling.*

Yang: "What the hell?"

 

[AndrewJTalon]

As a tangent based on the Jedi!Jaune series, it might be amusing to twist it. Jaune's Nana is actually a Sith, though she's tried to hide her darker impulses. None of her children or grandchildren were Force Sensitive... Until Jaune. So she decided to begin to raise Jaune up as a proper apprentice.

Unfortunately Jaune is so kind and good hearted that he just keeps on the Lightside despite her best efforts. He's basically like a Lightside!Sith Warrior in SW:TOR.

Jaune: "Why would I kill anyone pointlessly? Wouldn't that attract the police?"

Sith!Nana: "You need to take a life, feel the death and let it feed your rage and fear! Preferably someone you care about!"

Jaune: "But why? Then I'll just be scared that anyone might turn on me and kill me! I'll be totally isolated and without friends to help! I'll get outnumbered!"

Sith!Nana: "I had to do it!"

Jaune: "But you haven't done it to Papa!"

Sith!Nana: "He was too good a cook to kill and skilled at..." blush "Other things!"

Jaune: "Sooo... Why would I want to kill anyone who might also be useful to me?"

Sith!Nana: "I... Um... Hmm... You're not wrong, sweetie. I may need to rethink some things..."

 

[Bommel]

I had an idea for Adam. Based on Sasuke Uchiha and Zechs Merquise.

Sasuke wanted to become a threat to keep the world united together against a common enemy. He reasoned that without a common enemy, there would be no incentive for peace. Zechs Merquise did the same.

So in much the same way, Adam... Is an idealist. He wants Faunus and human equality. He wants peace. He wants Blake's dream... But his way to achieve it is to become the ultimate bad guy. He joins Salem as her Dark Knight and encourages her to show herself to the world. To unite the world against Salem. And he is willing to give up his life to help facilitate true peace and victory over her.

In other words he's just as much of a drama queen as Blake.

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That would undermine his whole character and that of Blake's as well, at least in my opinion.

Adam is based on the fairytale character the beast, while Blake is based on Belle, you know, the dude who got cursed because he was a selfish asshole, kidnapped and imprisoned someone and tried to force them to love him just to break that curse (not to mention the stockholm syndrome aspects).
Yes, the Beast does have good/redeemable aspects (how much really depends on the version), but from the ground up, the relationship of Adam and Blake deliberately the most horrible version of that, so not exactly healthy or good morally.

Adam's treatment of Blake wouldn't really work if he was secretly a good guy, as he is the cause behind a big part of Blake's character and personality, and the big part of her personally traumatic backstory.
Making him a secret good guy takes away from the few good aspects of Blake's characters that are left (I too can shit on Blake crying "racism" at everything, her messed up shipping with Yang and whatnot more, but that part of her backstory is one of the few good things that stuck around after everyone's personality/character started sliding downhill after Monty's unfortunate passing).

Adam is basically a dark reflection on the Faunus fight for equality and Blake, as he's what happens when you take that way too far and make it about getting revenge and becomming the abuser in power rather than the victom, perpetuating the cycle of exploitation and abuse.
Even the reviel later on of his branding scar doesn't make his actions any better, it gives some sympathy for his origin, but he shows that he was a victom and still chose to directly abused Blake in multiple ways (including during their relationship), stalkes her, vows and actively tries to destroy/kill everything that Blake loves for petty reasons, and has actively murdered most of his own underlings for petty shit like disagreeing with him.
Sasuke Uchiha and Zechs Merquise were made to be heroic from the beginning (even if Sasuke clearly planned to have a path to darkness).

Adam was made from the ground up to be a bad guy, a villain, and unlike Salem, is scary because he's far more realistic.
He's an abuser and violent narcissist who blames everyone else for his failiures, wants to gain power over others (in multiple different ways, like control over Blake's life) and turn the other race of people into slaves for his race (and in Volume 5, he literally changes clothing to a militarized grey suit that resembles a Nazi uniform).
There are people like that in real life.
Trying to make him into a good guy doesn't work (in my opinion) as he was made to be a villain, but it's okay to have someone made purely to be a villain, as they drive characters and the plot forward, good obstacles to overcome.

 

[Gur40]

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Sith!Nana: "I... Um... Hmm... You're not wrong, sweetie. I may need to rethink some things..."

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Sith Nana is just Mysterious Heroine X Alter in full dark armor [fgo saber wars] and Jaune just shows why he was called equal to Salem in planning and manipulation by CRWBY

Dark Sider!Jaune using the power of hate on human trafficker's [the crown] terrorist [WF] and crime families [the spiders] and being his wholesome self the second they are done killing, just like how Ruby snipes for headshots and is still the cookie gremlin...

Salem about to be usurped as Remnants dark lord

 

[Bommel]

As a tangent based on the Jedi!Jaune series, it might be amusing to twist it. Jaune's Nana is actually a Sith, though she's tried to hide her darker impulses. None of her children or grandchildren were Force Sensitive... Until Jaune. So she decided to begin to raise Jaune up as a proper apprentice.

Unfortunately Jaune is so kind and good hearted that he just keeps on the Lightside despite her best efforts. He's basically like a Lightside!Sith Warrior in SW:TOR.

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So is Sith!Nana like Darth Vectivus then?

Spoiler: The Sith That Did No EVIL - The Story of Darth Vectivus

Spoiler: Darth Vectivus memes

 

[AndrewJTalon]

That would undermine his whole character and that of Blake's as well, at least in my opinion.

Adam is based on the fairytale character the beast, while Blake is based on Belle, you know, the dude who got cursed because he was a selfish asshole, kidnapped and imprisoned someone and tried to force them to love him just to break that curse (not to mention the stockholm syndrome aspects).
Yes, the Beast does have good/redeemable aspects (how much really depends on the version), but from the ground up, the relationship of Adam and Blake deliberately the most horrible version of that, so not exactly healthy or good morally.

Adam's treatment of Blake wouldn't really work if he was secretly a good guy, as he is the cause behind a big part of Blake's character and personality, and the big part of her personally traumatic backstory.
Making him a secret good guy takes away from the few good aspects of Blake's characters that are left (I too can shit on Blake crying "racism" at everything, her messed up shipping with Yang and whatnot more, but that part of her backstory is one of the few good things that stuck around after everyone's personality/character started sliding downhill after Monty's unfortunate passing).

Adam is basically a dark reflection on the Faunus fight for equality and Blake, as he's what happens when you take that way too far and make it about getting revenge and becomming the abuser in power rather than the victom, perpetuating the cycle of exploitation and abuse.
Even the reviel later on of his branding scar doesn't make his actions any better, it gives some sympathy for his origin, but he shows that he was a victom and still chose to directly abused Blake in multiple ways (including during their relationship), stalkes her, vows and actively tries to destroy/kill everything that Blake loves for petty reasons, and has actively murdered most of his own underlings for petty shit like disagreeing with him.
Sasuke Uchiha and Zechs Merquise were made to be heroic from the beginning (even if Sasuke clearly planned to have a path to darkness).

Adam was made from the ground up to be a bad guy, a villain, and unlike Salem, is scary because he's far more realistic.
He's an abuser and violent narcissist who blames everyone else for his failiures, wants to gain power over others (in multiple different ways, like control over Blake's life) and turn the other race of people into slaves for his race (and in Volume 5, he literally changes clothing to a militarized grey suit that resembles a Nazi uniform).
There are people like that in real life.
Trying to make him into a good guy doesn't work (in my opinion) as he was made to be a villain, but it's okay to have someone made purely to be a villain, as they drive characters and the plot forward, good obstacles to overcome.

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Yeah but they failed at that. They made him an incel and abuser when he should have been more tragic: A heroic figure, a freedom fighter twisted by his rage and hatred into a monster worse than those who abused him. Yes you could make him a villain and yes he could still be bad with a bad ending, but he needed some actual nuance-He had to be more of a Magneto than the Strawman they made him.

And indeed, if he was inspired by the Beast from Beauty and the Beast, he could have had a path to redemption.

I offer this path not to make him redeemed, but more that he is complex. He is tragic and perhaps misguided. He is devoted to Blake's beliefs but takes them in a twisted, violent direction. He feels if he is a massive villain, a threat, and makes it so he is to blame for everything, his and Blake's aims will be achieved. There will be true equality if everyone is united against a common threat-Namely, himself and Salem. But this doesn't mean he is right to do this, or that it will work. Much like Sasuke was wrong for believing that only a common enemy could unite all people on Earth.

 

[Bommel]

Yeah but they failed at that. They made him an incel and abuser when he should have been more tragic: A heroic figure, a freedom fighter twisted by his rage and hatred into a monster worse than those who abused him. Yes you could make him a villain and yes he could still be bad with a bad ending, but he needed some actual nuance-He had to be more of a Magneto than the Strawman they made him.

And indeed, if he was inspired by the Beast from Beauty and the Beast, he could have had a path to redemption.

I offer this path not to make him redeemed, but more that he is complex. He is tragic and perhaps misguided. He is devoted to Blake's beliefs but takes them in a twisted, violent direction. He feels if he is a massive villain, a threat, and makes it so he is to blame for everything, his and Blake's aims will be achieved. There will be true equality if everyone is united against a common threat-Namely, himself and Salem. But this doesn't mean he is right to do this, or that it will work. Much like Sasuke was wrong for believing that only a common enemy could unite all people on Earth.

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While I agree, and he does need more nuance, I don't think that trying to make him a martyr who sacrifices himself to becomes a shared target of hatred is the way to go about it.

My suggestion would be to lean more into the tragic aspect of it, rather then trying to make him heroic.
Use some of Adam's neutral and/or good traits (or even give him some new ones) that specifically cause the horrible outcome to happen, even if they would be helpful in other scenarios.
Make it really sad that it would end that way, so sad that even Blake/Yang (both abused and crippled by him) cries for him when he finally does die, because it could have been prevented but Adam's Fatal Flaws didn't let that happen.

Spoiler: Trope Talk: Tragedy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL4ti1EGNiw