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The guy with Booster Gear's opposite, Divine Dividing. We asked Azazael about him.megrisvernin said:
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The guy with Booster Gear's opposite, Divine Dividing. We asked Azazael about him.megrisvernin said:
EternitynChaos said:http://highschooldxd.wikia.com/wiki/Vali_Lucifer
Personally, in my view those two perverts are assholes, not friends, or at least not any friends I'd want.
As it is our Issei is making better friends currently, hell he's even got Male friends who are better friends, even the ex-fallen angel that exsists to kick our ass is a better friend in my view.
Also with the Trial of Sacrifice, I will not that sometimes when you get to that part of things you realise you have already made the sacrifice, you just didn't realise it until now.
That may very well be the case with us here.
EternitynChaos said:no, not really, the only bond they shared is that they were all perverts. thats it, and any time anything good happens to Issei they do there best to shit all over it, because its not happening to them, that sort of behaviour is not what I would call being someones friend, or if it is, its no friend I would want to have.
noahgab1133 said:I don't think sacrificing a relationship is something issei would do. At least not now. Besides we can learn dxd magic much easier with akeno.
megrisvernin said:Is this still about the sorcery thing?
I'm not arguing we drop the two over that. At a certain point not actively seeking them, though, is the same in a sense of letting the relationship go. It may not be as fast or quick, but we're letting our friendship deteriorate over time.
noahgab1133 said:yeah and the sad thing is this sort of happens in canon they appear maybe once per volume.
EternitynChaos said:never going to happen, they are as likely to do that as Happosai is to give up perversion and become a monk spreading peace and enlightenment.
EternitynChaos said:impossible you mean, the only way they are going to become actual friends rather then fungus is if we brainwash them into becoming real thinking humans rather then the petty childish jealous creatures they currently are.
Which is a waste of time, energy and is probably morally not good. I have no doubt they can become nice people, in 10 years or so, maybe, if they don't get themselves killed before then.
And simply put, I have no reason to care about them, right now I have no investment in them, they will just end up draging us down with them so why bother.
megrisvernin said:Can anyone more familiar with canon point out a time when those two did should actually character development or depth?
That's going a bit too far. Issei managed to show some actual improvement over the series & he seemed lecherous enough. Mind you I don't think it'll be easy but it can be done & quite shorter than taking years.
A lack of narrative investment is a point. I don't care much about them...
tsuknoryu2986 said:I've read up to volume 15 and honestly, they don't show up that much. I can't remember what volume, but I do remember Issei saying that the reason he tries to still hang out with them is so he has a connection still to his former human life.
just been through and recountedActions
Pursue Snake?
Yes - 21
No - 0
Introduce the girls to Azazel?
Yes - 0
No - 20
Tell Azazel about Exaltation and all that it implies?
Yes - 7
No - 13
Kinda - 1
Tell Azazel about your research on the Evil Pieces?
Yes - 5
No - 15
EXP
First Occult Excellency, Fists of Iron Technique - 10
First Occult Excellency,3 Dots Investigation 9 xp,(17/27) , 1 Dot Athletic, Awareness,Dodge 9 xp (26/27) – 1
First Occult Excellency , Spirit Detecting Glance - 1
Stunts
Settling down – 2
As boosted gear forms – 5
Overwhelming – 2You begin to breathe – 1
Snake
Yes = 24
no = 0
Magnus
Yes = 0
No = 24 (but all or almost all said to bring it up with Ruby and Yang and let them make the choice)
Exaltation
Yes = 9
No = 15 (some said unless he ask's us about it)
Evil Peices
Yes = 6
No = 18