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What are your most hated fanfic tropes

You can totally have an agricultural revolution in Westeros though. And I disagree some about the industrial revolution too, it's like people forgot it all happened during the victorian age. Industry is a lot more than guns and smoking factories. Textiles will incentivise a certain level of automation all by themselves, even if it takes water wheels. Same for metalworking mass production, you can get that running just to make better farming tools, people used to have wooden shovels you know.

The real bottleneck is in making precision-measuring tools. If the SI knows about that (rubbing three stones together ad nauseam), he sure as hell can kick it off, even if it takes more than his lifetime.

The cultural/economic/whatever conditions? Sorry, but they aren't as big a hindrance as you all like to think. It was called a revolution because it went against that very same status quo. And it won. In some cases, it even won without the ugly parts (the American School).
 
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Hellhound_dow said:
I'm starting to really despise when a character not only takes the idiot ball, but sexually molests it. Is your character really so fucking desperate for sex that they lose their survival instincts?
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When does this happen the only time I can think of similar tropes is in rape hentai where instead of killing the superpowered hot female paladin/taimanin/magical girl whatever who just killed half your guys before being stopped you decided to rape and sexually torture her instead.
 
Theman said:
When does this happen the only time I can think of similar tropes is in rape hentai where instead of killing the superpowered hot female paladin/taimanin/magical girl whatever who just killed half your guys before being stopped you decided to rape and sexually torture her instead.
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I've seen a few where the MC or another character had the choice of thinking with their brain instead of dick/pussy and didn't, but the one that drove the point home for me was a WC one recently where he had evidence the Stamp didn't cause immediate or total loyalty, needed some info from a witch, but instead of waiting for said witch to wake up in the morning, killed her minions, entered her bedroom, and jumped on her to try and stamp her instead of waiting a few hours.

Granted he regretted it when he was turned into her loyal brainwashed minion for a month before breaking free, but it was a complete idiot ball moment. If that story has him doing another, it will be one of the few I've dropped on here entirely.
 
Hellhound_dow said:
I've seen a few where the MC or another character had the choice of thinking with their brain instead of dick/pussy and didn't, but the one that drove the point home for me was a WC one recently where he had evidence the Stamp didn't cause immediate or total loyalty, needed some info from a witch, but instead of waiting for said witch to wake up in the morning, killed her minions, entered her bedroom, and jumped on her to try and stamp her instead of waiting a few hours.

Granted he regretted it when he was turned into her loyal brainwashed minion for a month before breaking free, but it was a complete idiot ball moment. If that story has him doing another, it will be one of the few I've dropped on here entirely.
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Alot of SI and OC names,

Sometimes they just really have no... I don't even know how to put in words, no power, no sauce, heart? Yeah, no heart in the names they give their characters.

Also naming the mc Akira, omg I hate that one, how many fic have you read where someone gets reincarnated or dropped in Japan and they immediately name themselves Akira? Fr wtf there are other Japanese names bro, Touma, Yosuke , heck even Ichigo.
 
Leviticusrex said:
Sell me on the world your military is defending, do something other than talk about lasers and power armor, I fucking beg you.
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Counterpoint. Nothing happens in Slice of Life.

It's all head pats, ice cream and cinnamon. I really could care less that our MC is extremely poor, and is about to get this hot piece of ass because he inherited a fortune out of nowhere. Did I mention he has a sister, and a milf mother in law? That almost every conflict is resolved through the law, exuberant amounts of money, status, or face slapping? The worst part about it is how 'clever' the MC is, and how almost all people who are "enemies" are just raging narcissistics who belittle the MC for their looks, intelligence, or financial situation. They also typically lack goals, and sort of just myander through life.

That being said, I'ma write a Slice of Life sometime down the line just to prove the haters (me) wrong XD. The dudes voted for a Jedi Artisan story who has Master Oogway as his teacher, and his ultimate goal is to troll the Sith by growing Lightside trees on Korriban.
 
Karp said:
Counterpoint. Nothing happens in Slice of Life.

It's all head pats, ice cream and cinnamon. I really could care less that our MC is extremely poor, and is about to get this hot piece of ass because he inherited a fortune out of nowhere. Did I mention he has a sister, and a milf mother in law? That almost every conflict is resolved through the law, exuberant amounts of money, status, or face slapping? The worst part about it is how 'clever' the MC is, and how almost all people who are "enemies" are just raging narcissistics who belittle the MC for their looks, intelligence, or financial situation. They also typically lack goals, and sort of just myander through life.

That being said, I'ma write a Slice of Life sometime down the line just to prove the haters (me) wrong XD. The dudes voted for a Jedi Artisan story who has Master Oogway as his teacher, and his ultimate goal is to troll the Sith by growing Lightside trees on Korriban.
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There is a difference between Slice of Life the genre and including Slice of Life in your stories.

Slice of life the genre I will not contest is often 94 chapters of people doing nothing with nothing happening on the side. Including slice of life is a post coital cigarette, there for flavor and to enjoy where the story has gone. I'm not looking for 60 chapters of will they won't they, I just want more chapters of "Here is how things are going on the ground level" instead of more point deliberation or the protagonist inventing laser beams 2, you know?
 
Prattletale said:
Also naming the mc Akira
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Maybe it's because Akira was often the first anime western millennials ever watched. It was pretty popular back in the day when anime used to be niche but was just starting to break into western markets and gain mass appeal. So it's the first name that pops into the SI's head, is my guess. A bit like in Back To The Future 3, when Marty goes back to the wild west and tells people his name is Clint Eastwood.

Of course, if there were millions of spaghetti western isekai fanfics out there with an MC named Clint, that would get kind of annoying, wouldn't it?
 
The way ABB human trafficking/prostitution buisness is often shown in Worm fanfics is a lot of kidnapped women in "farms" , many of which randomly abducted from brockton bay itself.
That's so not happening

Like if they kidnap hundreds/dozens of people with a family,-like non homeless people- on the regular Lung's ass would've been smote down by a triumvirate or the city would've had a HOSV status a lot earlier.

Instead, irl human trafficking: Asians getting lured with false promises of better homes in the US (homeless being given the chance of a roof) will work much better because of well, the lack of citizens who would care.
 
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So I've only seen a few Frieza SI type stories but I gotta say, I'm getting tired of the over leveling every last one does. They all wake up as Frieza and decide.

"I'm gonna train and make it so my first form has a power level of 1 billion~!"

I mean I get it, we all saw resurrection F we know Frieza did in 4 months what took Goku 15 years to achieve.

But I think it's just lazy, and an overestimation of THEIR OWN mentality. I'm willing to accept you have the physical capabilities of Frieza, if you had to relearn how to fly and control how strong your punches were the story would be… well a good writer might be able to make it interesting, basically Frieza SI having to bluff everyone while he works out how to be strong again.

But that aside I'm willing to accept you can use 530,000 to 120,000,000, though considering even Frieza struggled to regulate himself at full power you definitely should too. But my main point is "Training" shouldn't be so easy, not to be rude but I doubt a majority of people here are willing to spend every day training. The knowledge of the future is double edged, you can't worry over Cell, Buu, Beerus, or Zeno when you know Goku is gonna solve that shit. Hell your own death isn't even scary cause either it's the end of your adventure as Frieza or it's off to the pixie garden for a while before you're just brought back.

Honestly I think a Frieza SI would be interesting if he was struggling just to hit 150,000,000 million, the power level Goku reached that defeated him. It'd be interesting to watch a Frieza SI get over this wall and struggle because he's not a training fanatic, the body he's inhabiting certainly wasn't and while everyone could be astounded at say Frieza hitting say 133,500,000 in a year(starting point is Raditz lands on Earth), the SI is freaking out because essentially at this rate all he'll accomplish is losing to Goku but the gap in power won't be as stark.
 
I never take training arcs in fics seriously because their training amounts to the equivalent of push-ups while critiquing others for not trying hard enough when they don't get absurd power gains from the same routine.
 
It should at least involve a montage with some inspiring music that pumps you up.

And it should end with an awesome visual, like doing flying kung fu kicks on top of a cliff while silhouetted in the brilliant light of the rising sun... or raising your arms in triumph atop the steps of the art museum that you could barely climb up when you started training... or a sweeping helicopter shot of you disarming your teacher in a grueling swordfight on some isolated rocks on an ocean surf...
 
Bear_Mint said:
I never take training arcs in fics seriously because their training amounts to the equivalent of push-ups while critiquing others for not trying hard enough when they don't get absurd power gains from the same routine.
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I liked how seishi did those,using child games powered at googol showing how insane could be
 
Leviticusrex said:
Show me slice of life.

No, put down the goddamned laser beams and power armor and show me the slice of life. I want to see your stupid fantasy/future societies food stalls, show me what music they listen to (If you name drop a band from the 21st century I will attack), show me anything other than their stupid fucking laser beams and warships. I see it all the goddamned time people brainstorming military units down to each individual private taking a shit, but for the life of them will not ever describe what or how they eat, or what they listen to or even an iota of how they live.

Sell me on the world your military is defending, do something other than talk about lasers and power armor, I fucking beg you.
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The reason is...that can be done a few side chapters and done?
 
nivekvonbeldo said:
The reason is...that can be done a few side chapters and done?
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Like showing society reacting to the march of progress is a chore to do? The hypothetical super duper gun that shoots gluons and we can't have an aside more than once in a blue moon how technology is more than shooty bangs and power armor? Or how societal change is more than a peasant printing machine feeding proles into factories?

I reject the idea you should do it a few times and call it a day. There is so much untapped potential in so many fics, all of which are completely disinterested in doing anything other than power gaming, deliberating on points, or talking about laser beams. You can take more than an aside to build and enrich your fictional society. Its not that fucking hard.
 
Leviticusrex said:
Like showing society reacting to the march of progress is a chore to do? The hypothetical super duper gun that shoots gluons and we can't have an aside more than once in a blue moon how technology is more than shooty bangs and power armor? Or how societal change is more than a peasant printing machine feeding proles into factories?

I reject the idea you should do it a few times and call it a day. There is so much untapped potential in so many fics, all of which are completely disinterested in doing anything other than power gaming, deliberating on points, or talking about laser beams. You can take more than an aside to build and enrich your fictional society. Its not that fucking hard.
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No a chore but what to show? We can do that literally in there six sentence paragraphs Easily

Like : nice MC friend /former teacher invented fusion energy now our energy bill is 100 doesn't matter if we put AC at Max in summer,or nice that tech we got for aliens make opera works as real time movies

Is just that, this also remind of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PopularHistory this

Another thing would be integrating to the plot,like a tech advance render of the characters occupation/degree obsolete and that tear status Quo
 
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No a chore but what to show? We can do that literally in there six sentence paragraphs Easily
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If you want to get reductive about it, sure you can do that. But why not just have the whole fic be a 5 paragraph essay completely reduced like the grizzle at the bottom of a pan?

And what to show? The invention of a particle beam precludes advances in heat management, lenses, maybe minerals. Talk about a factory worker, a miner in an area revitalized, talk about a coal worker eating the cost. Sure you can just 'assume' this shit is happening in the background, but then you might as well just write "I invented laser beams and killed the bad guys" if we are on the idea of removing shit from a fic.
 
I was gonna that it would apply for the gamer system as well because let's face it not everyone would like to grind and some would find it tedious unless seriously motivated. Or knowing they could get powers and even jump worlds cause if not I thing the average person would push their bodies like fanfiction would tell you.
 
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I was gonna that it would apply for the gamer system as well because let's face it not everyone would like to grind and some would find it tedious unless seriously motivated. Or knowing they could get powers and even jump worlds cause if not I thing the average person would push their bodies like fanfiction would tell you.
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Opinion. Disregarding the supernatural/world-breaking elements, being able to see tangible results for tedious self-improvement would motivate a large percentage of humanity, like a living fitness scorer.

Imagine being able to view your projected maximum safe muscle strength increase in psi/N for every single dumbbell curl you perform in realtime, knowing that it isn't pointless in a very tangible manner. Getting people to stop grinding, especially if they do not have Gamer's Body, will be the more pertinent challenge.
 
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Opinion. Disregarding the supernatural/world-breaking elements, being able to see tangible results for tedious self-improvement would motivate a large percentage of humanity, like a living fitness scorer.

Imagine being able to view your projected maximum safe muscle strength increase in psi/N for every single dumbbell curl you perform in realtime, knowing that it isn't pointless in a very tangible manner. Getting people to stop grinding, especially if they do not have Gamer's Body, will be the more pertinent challenge.
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I think gamer should be an internal score for the writer not the fans reading,the manwha worked as kinda was an homage to RPG in general but narratively better keep it hidden

That's why like chaos Gacha more,at least forced us to play with rolls
 
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I think gamer should be an internal score for the writer not the fans reading,the manwha worked as kinda was an homage to RPG in general but narratively better keep it hidden
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Agreed, having an internal score for each [entity]'s capabilities and limits for purposes of writing is good, helps drafting up reasonable scenes and forcing alternatives if brute-force is unavailble. May lead to asspull or deadlock incidents if scenario leads to a literary "checkmate" where no reasonable way for the MCs to progress and/or escape arise however, use carefully.
 
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Agreed, having an internal score for each [entity]'s capabilities and limits for purposes of writing is good, helps drafting up reasonable scenes and forcing alternatives if brute-force is unavailble. May lead to asspull or deadlock incidents if scenario leads to a literary "checkmate" where no reasonable way for the MCs to progress and/or escape arise however, use carefully.
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That's the general rule you write the Everest you want to climb first them reach it,but even professionals got fucked over it(see how asoiaf was to be three books and sixth books later we're only half way from the original first book draft)
 
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