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TheDerangedOne
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... Iora seems apparently IS the sort to take very well to the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) method and use it to get out of doing too much mech design... while also making above average mechs because of it.
After all, Simple is easy to fix and get back in bed once the work's done.
... not sure ...hmmm... There probably is a long path forward in Simplifying mech designs in ways other than stripping them down... or rather simplifying them without reducing their performance.
After all, Simple is easy to fix and get back in bed once the work's done.
... not sure ...hmmm... There probably is a long path forward in Simplifying mech designs in ways other than stripping them down... or rather simplifying them without reducing their performance.
Waruiko
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Efficient just means the biggest result from the minimum effort that doesn't fail.
Jordisk
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Less "Xanxia Protagonist" and more "Highschool Romcom Battle Harem Anime Protagonist" (yes, that is actually a common genre of anime), but agreed.
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Her life was over. Hina Selena of the Vermeer had prided herself on her detachment from earthly matters. Rising above it all was a small passion of hers. It had even tinted her interests as a designer. She'd spent her life working on flight mechanics. Her very childhood had been on the floating cities of her home planet. Drifting above the sands and through the wind, free of everything. She'd been the untouchable beauty desired by all. Sent here to prove the strength of her family and possibly grab hold of the opportunity offered. At a bare minimum her brilliance should have gotten some good marriage prospects from the other candidates that could further her career and family.
Instead, she'd slipped and fallen into the mud in the first hour of this accursed contest. She'd suffered a wardrobe malfunction in the second hour. The third hour had been oil from a rupturing fuel line. All of this on camera. She was now the dirt girl. That one recording would be spread far and wide no matter what her family would say. It was inevitable.
The only thing that had gone right was her mech, and that was just barely. Flight was hard in mechs. Every second in the air required fuel. Even Second Rate mechs required careful allocations of weight versus lift. You could only break physics so much. Third Rate mechs were worse. They were something like ninety percent flight systems and ten percent weapons. She'd ended up creating a flying bird and loading it with as many missiles as she could feasibly have it lift, and even then it was an ungainly, unsightly beast.
Her designs had never been as flawed as this salvaged heap of rusted metal. The fuel requirements gave it an anemic run-time. The missiles meant it had almost no endurance. In any other contest the design shouldn't have progressed past the first round. Yet here it'd managed to get into the top ten, then the top five.
"How is this possible?" She breathed out as she looked at the lineup.
"Ya'll all seem to be wondering that." The voice from behind her made her stiffen up and turn quickly.
The designer she'd been sent to possibly learn from, possibly charm, definitely make a good impression on was behind her. He was in the same room as her and the other contestants! Hina smoothed out her dress and straightened her stance and tried to ignore how she wanted to crawl in a hole and die.
"I figured I'd step in and look at the last contestants. We're down to ten, so ya'll are above the rest." Bolt drawled out as he surveyed them. "Do recall that you started at the same spot. If you think your mech's shit understand that the losers had shittier ones."
His words drew nothing but silence as the candidates stared at him. Hina could sympathize. There really wasn't much proper etiquette for situations like this. There were formal conversations designers could have, but Bolt wasn't following them. Everyone was a bit lost. And perhaps a bit resentful. (She still remembered the mud, and the recording. SHE'D HOLD IT AGAINST HIM FOREVER, ahem.)
"Considering everything, I'll let ya know a bit of my thoughts on this test. I don't do anything once, but this one is something fer you to consider. Most designers spend their life behind a design desk, and while that's fine for a career, you all want to be more. That means new experiences." Bolt switched his gaze to the arena. "Picture this. Four days ago there was a battle. Three days ago, you were tasked to bolster your forces with another mech. You have a printer but no feed stock. What do you do?"
Another beat of silence was his answer before Hina sighed internally and answered. "You salvage." She gave the most obvious answer.
"You salvage. Then you get the mech working enough to get back to your bay, and then you make it work." Bolt nodded to the arena. "Most o' you won't bother or be in the position when this is needed, but some might." He shrugged. "Got a friend that got in something like this working for a merch group in Second Rate territory. He's probably gonna be a senior in a year or two. That means he's a step up from most of the galaxy. Lotta masters became masters by doing the unusual. None of them spent their life behind a desk. Thinking you can be safe for the rest of your life in this field is a poison that will kill your advancement. Ya don't always have ta take risks, but you do have to take some." The man turned away and began to leave. "Now, I've probably made a bit of mistake giving ya free advice, so I'm gonna leave before the next rounds begin."
Hina watched him go with a complicated mix of feelings in her breast. She didn't quite agree with him, but it did make some sense. Spending every day designing sounded good for advancement, but it felt like a very easy way to get into a rut. What exactly did she want? It was a very good question and not one she could easily answer.
It also wasn't going to be answered now. There were ten people left. With single elimination that meant nine matches for first and second and a tenth for third. Her current opponent was Iora.
Hina paused as the brackets came up and glanced at the sleeping man. She felt her hands twitch. Iora was the one that slept at her coming-of-age ceremony. He'd stayed in bed during his grandfather's funeral. He'd been 'occupied' at his graduation party. How the hell was he here, and why was he taking up a slot?!
The start of the match had her attention snap back to the arena. Her flier wasn't particularly noteworthy. Just a bird with missiles. It took to the air anyway and she spared a moment of pride. Pride that dropped as the opposing mech began to shoot.
Of course he had a rifleman. One of the better counters to her mech. The only one worse would have been from that Gauger brat who had the wall of weapons. How he managed to reload that monstrosity was a serious question that she'd actually love to know the answer to.
Unfortunately Hina didn't know enough about mech fighting to tell if her pilot was better or worse. All she could see was the mech flying in the air and trying to avoid the rifle shots. It swooped and let loose a wave of missiles as it dodged, and more shots flew out to follow it. The battle became a contest of who could hit the most shots without taking damage. The missiles had the advantage, but not as much as she'd like. Third Rate missiles were horrible.
Eventually a hit managed to strike the bird's wing. The joint seized and the thing lost mobility. Credit to the pilot, he was able to land and even fire off a last volley of missiles. Several hit the dodging rifleman and breached its armor.
The two mechs approached one another and Hina closed her eyes reflexively before she forced them open. The two mechs clashed with stuttering movements from the damages. The rifle was dropped and a small holdout dagger was pulled out. The bird twitched and tried to use its beak.
It was a slow and sluggish battle, but also a rather inevitable one. Very slowly her bird was worn down, and Hina sighed as it dropped to the ground. She lost.
"Damnit!" Iora muttered.
Hina didn't even recall moving to strangle him. She just remembered being held back by her fellow heirs.
Instead, she'd slipped and fallen into the mud in the first hour of this accursed contest. She'd suffered a wardrobe malfunction in the second hour. The third hour had been oil from a rupturing fuel line. All of this on camera. She was now the dirt girl. That one recording would be spread far and wide no matter what her family would say. It was inevitable.
The only thing that had gone right was her mech, and that was just barely. Flight was hard in mechs. Every second in the air required fuel. Even Second Rate mechs required careful allocations of weight versus lift. You could only break physics so much. Third Rate mechs were worse. They were something like ninety percent flight systems and ten percent weapons. She'd ended up creating a flying bird and loading it with as many missiles as she could feasibly have it lift, and even then it was an ungainly, unsightly beast.
Her designs had never been as flawed as this salvaged heap of rusted metal. The fuel requirements gave it an anemic run-time. The missiles meant it had almost no endurance. In any other contest the design shouldn't have progressed past the first round. Yet here it'd managed to get into the top ten, then the top five.
"How is this possible?" She breathed out as she looked at the lineup.
"Ya'll all seem to be wondering that." The voice from behind her made her stiffen up and turn quickly.
The designer she'd been sent to possibly learn from, possibly charm, definitely make a good impression on was behind her. He was in the same room as her and the other contestants! Hina smoothed out her dress and straightened her stance and tried to ignore how she wanted to crawl in a hole and die.
"I figured I'd step in and look at the last contestants. We're down to ten, so ya'll are above the rest." Bolt drawled out as he surveyed them. "Do recall that you started at the same spot. If you think your mech's shit understand that the losers had shittier ones."
His words drew nothing but silence as the candidates stared at him. Hina could sympathize. There really wasn't much proper etiquette for situations like this. There were formal conversations designers could have, but Bolt wasn't following them. Everyone was a bit lost. And perhaps a bit resentful. (She still remembered the mud, and the recording. SHE'D HOLD IT AGAINST HIM FOREVER, ahem.)
"Considering everything, I'll let ya know a bit of my thoughts on this test. I don't do anything once, but this one is something fer you to consider. Most designers spend their life behind a design desk, and while that's fine for a career, you all want to be more. That means new experiences." Bolt switched his gaze to the arena. "Picture this. Four days ago there was a battle. Three days ago, you were tasked to bolster your forces with another mech. You have a printer but no feed stock. What do you do?"
Another beat of silence was his answer before Hina sighed internally and answered. "You salvage." She gave the most obvious answer.
"You salvage. Then you get the mech working enough to get back to your bay, and then you make it work." Bolt nodded to the arena. "Most o' you won't bother or be in the position when this is needed, but some might." He shrugged. "Got a friend that got in something like this working for a merch group in Second Rate territory. He's probably gonna be a senior in a year or two. That means he's a step up from most of the galaxy. Lotta masters became masters by doing the unusual. None of them spent their life behind a desk. Thinking you can be safe for the rest of your life in this field is a poison that will kill your advancement. Ya don't always have ta take risks, but you do have to take some." The man turned away and began to leave. "Now, I've probably made a bit of mistake giving ya free advice, so I'm gonna leave before the next rounds begin."
Hina watched him go with a complicated mix of feelings in her breast. She didn't quite agree with him, but it did make some sense. Spending every day designing sounded good for advancement, but it felt like a very easy way to get into a rut. What exactly did she want? It was a very good question and not one she could easily answer.
It also wasn't going to be answered now. There were ten people left. With single elimination that meant nine matches for first and second and a tenth for third. Her current opponent was Iora.
Hina paused as the brackets came up and glanced at the sleeping man. She felt her hands twitch. Iora was the one that slept at her coming-of-age ceremony. He'd stayed in bed during his grandfather's funeral. He'd been 'occupied' at his graduation party. How the hell was he here, and why was he taking up a slot?!
The start of the match had her attention snap back to the arena. Her flier wasn't particularly noteworthy. Just a bird with missiles. It took to the air anyway and she spared a moment of pride. Pride that dropped as the opposing mech began to shoot.
Of course he had a rifleman. One of the better counters to her mech. The only one worse would have been from that Gauger brat who had the wall of weapons. How he managed to reload that monstrosity was a serious question that she'd actually love to know the answer to.
Unfortunately Hina didn't know enough about mech fighting to tell if her pilot was better or worse. All she could see was the mech flying in the air and trying to avoid the rifle shots. It swooped and let loose a wave of missiles as it dodged, and more shots flew out to follow it. The battle became a contest of who could hit the most shots without taking damage. The missiles had the advantage, but not as much as she'd like. Third Rate missiles were horrible.
Eventually a hit managed to strike the bird's wing. The joint seized and the thing lost mobility. Credit to the pilot, he was able to land and even fire off a last volley of missiles. Several hit the dodging rifleman and breached its armor.
The two mechs approached one another and Hina closed her eyes reflexively before she forced them open. The two mechs clashed with stuttering movements from the damages. The rifle was dropped and a small holdout dagger was pulled out. The bird twitched and tried to use its beak.
It was a slow and sluggish battle, but also a rather inevitable one. Very slowly her bird was worn down, and Hina sighed as it dropped to the ground. She lost.
"Damnit!" Iora muttered.
Hina didn't even recall moving to strangle him. She just remembered being held back by her fellow heirs.
Waruiko
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Passions and fiery tempers abound here. Also some very solid advice that likely papers over some of the oddities of the contest. "My contest is weird because I'm actively trying to force my prospective students to advance without poisoning their budding philosophy even if I don't end up teaching them," is a hell of an excuse for why every stage of this is so messy and had people getting hurt. Similarly its a good excuse for the baby designers that made it this far to have a bad showing. They were literally not trained for this sort of situation and only endurance and stubbornness would let them get to the second round, let alone the third.
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heh, the great and powerful merch dealers
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It was considered a given that all heirs were very well trained and highly educated. When your family had enough money to purchase a planet a proper education was a necessity rather than a privilege. Educated didn't mean smart. Educated didn't mean competent. Herald Bjornson wanted to say he was both. He was aware enough that say that his judgement was probably suspect. He'd grown up in a bubble of praise and false challenge.
That was probably why the path of the designer appealed to him. A mech didn't care about your origin. It cared about how it was made. If you failed you had honest and instant feedback. You couldn't bribe a mech. The mech wouldn't give false feedback in fear of offense. Herald was bad at making mechs. He therefore loved trying anyway.
Really though, the entire contest had been a breath of fresh air. He'd gotten lost. He'd made mistakes. He'd even broken a bone for the first time in his life! He would rather avoid that experience from happening again, but he'd done it. (Ow.)
It was a surprise that his carefully made mech had advanced, but he'd rolled with it. Consideration, care, and thought had apparently put him above his peers. That was nice to know. His little spearman wasn't anything special. He'd tried to cram a set of rifles into the shoulders, but after the first match he'd had to remove them. They'd just been too finicky to maintain right and had compromised too much. He'd instead added a small handgun as a backup weapon and focused on countring. Altering the composition of the spear and tweaking a few things here and there to better fit his opponents was just good sense. Sure it made him work hard, but that was fine. Herald would say he was having fun if etiquette didn't make stating that impossible.
Perhaps he should join a mercenary company after this? Or maybe found one? He was a spare of a spare so the risk was perfectly fine, and the money was irrelevant truthfully. The Senior in charge of this match had raised good points about advancing, and he truly did want to advance. He wouldn't be a designer if he didn't want it after all.
Contemplations like that occupied him between matches. His current opponent was a man that had made the massive mech of metal and guns. It was quite the statement. The mech had managed to succeed through firepower and armor. It was also a mass of metal scars now. Each match had required more and more repairs, and the beast was just barely holding on by this point. That didn't detract from the threat though. It almost felt like it enhanced it really. You could tell this was a scarred monster.
Herald had adjusted the boosters for this fight, and added a small additional set around the hips to exploit the most obvious weakness. It'd still be a fight that could easily be over in aseconds. He was fairly sure that the armor could hold up for a little bit of the damage, but not what that thing could put out. It would be up to the pilot in the end. He'd done everything he could.
"I'm not familiar with your family." Herald said politely to the man who'd built the mech.
"Good for you. They're barely worth the time." The man said back with barely banked anger. "Might be worth more than your little trick though."
"Might be." Herald agreed with a nod. "I'm quite aware that my adjustment isn't much. It isn't like we had time."
"Tch." His opponent made a noise of frustration and turned back to the match.
Herald shrugged off the rudeness. If the other man wanted to try to needle him pointlessly more power too him. Herald would dearly love becoming an apprentice, but no one here would be harmed by a loss, including him. Some of them would even be able to progress even after a loss here. This had been one of the few times a contest had stakes that actually meant something to people with their resources and that had a way of causing you to think.
Back in the arena the match began with a bang as the larger mech fired off every weapon it had equipped. The accuracy left much to be desired really, but the mass of projectiles more than made up for the lack of precision. Rounds pinged off the spearmen's armor and chunks flew off as the protection did its job, barely. Even as that happened the mech moved as fast as it could, boosting hard with all the additional thrust it could get.
Ponderously the gun-mech turned to following the circling mech. Every step slammed down and it was steadily losing focus. One of the shotguns in it's hand had just the right angle to fire as the spearman circled though and the pilot judged that was the best shot it could get. The weapon fired off and more armor pinged off. One of the added boosters on the hips flew off like a rocket as something came lose and Herald winced.
"Should have fastened that better." He observed.
"There's a reason they're seated in the damned armor normally. The forces involved had it already stressed. Stupid." His opponent pointed out bluntly.
The addons had done their job though. The spearman was close now. The weapon leveled down and stabbed. Metal shrieked against metal and the spearman set his feet and pushed hard. The weapon dug deep before he ripped it out with another clang.
"Oh, it survived." Herald said with a content smile. "Quite nice." He hadn't been sure the spear was good enough really. He could not call himself a specialist in making spears.
The other designer made another noise of frustration.
What followed next was a lot of poking. Herald wanted to wax poetic about it, but it was really just poking. The pilot of his mech was good, there was no doubt there, but when you had to spin around an opponent and stab them with a spear there really weren't many good descriptions for the action. The mech was poked to death. It was stuck like a wild boar. It was stabbed. It was skewered. And Herald was out of descriptions he could think of in his head right then and there.
He was making it sound boring. It was actually interesting from a technical standpoint. The spearman had to maneuver just right to keep out of reach of the many weapons. It involved a lot of ducking and boosting as well as stabbing. The armor could only take so much, and it was very much on its last legs. It took about a minute before the damage was enough to drop the larger mech, and that concluded the match.
To Herald's complete lack of surprise his opponent stalked off immediately. The designer didn't bother to say anything to the departing man. He obviously had a lot of anger or something like that. It wasn't anything of Herald's business anyway. He needed to get ready for the finals. That was going to mean a lot of work!
It was him versus the sleeping man. He was quite looking forward to it even if his opponent wasn't taking it really seriously. He did hope that the poor man didn't get strangled before the end of it. More than a few people looked pretty close.
That was probably why the path of the designer appealed to him. A mech didn't care about your origin. It cared about how it was made. If you failed you had honest and instant feedback. You couldn't bribe a mech. The mech wouldn't give false feedback in fear of offense. Herald was bad at making mechs. He therefore loved trying anyway.
Really though, the entire contest had been a breath of fresh air. He'd gotten lost. He'd made mistakes. He'd even broken a bone for the first time in his life! He would rather avoid that experience from happening again, but he'd done it. (Ow.)
It was a surprise that his carefully made mech had advanced, but he'd rolled with it. Consideration, care, and thought had apparently put him above his peers. That was nice to know. His little spearman wasn't anything special. He'd tried to cram a set of rifles into the shoulders, but after the first match he'd had to remove them. They'd just been too finicky to maintain right and had compromised too much. He'd instead added a small handgun as a backup weapon and focused on countring. Altering the composition of the spear and tweaking a few things here and there to better fit his opponents was just good sense. Sure it made him work hard, but that was fine. Herald would say he was having fun if etiquette didn't make stating that impossible.
Perhaps he should join a mercenary company after this? Or maybe found one? He was a spare of a spare so the risk was perfectly fine, and the money was irrelevant truthfully. The Senior in charge of this match had raised good points about advancing, and he truly did want to advance. He wouldn't be a designer if he didn't want it after all.
Contemplations like that occupied him between matches. His current opponent was a man that had made the massive mech of metal and guns. It was quite the statement. The mech had managed to succeed through firepower and armor. It was also a mass of metal scars now. Each match had required more and more repairs, and the beast was just barely holding on by this point. That didn't detract from the threat though. It almost felt like it enhanced it really. You could tell this was a scarred monster.
Herald had adjusted the boosters for this fight, and added a small additional set around the hips to exploit the most obvious weakness. It'd still be a fight that could easily be over in aseconds. He was fairly sure that the armor could hold up for a little bit of the damage, but not what that thing could put out. It would be up to the pilot in the end. He'd done everything he could.
"I'm not familiar with your family." Herald said politely to the man who'd built the mech.
"Good for you. They're barely worth the time." The man said back with barely banked anger. "Might be worth more than your little trick though."
"Might be." Herald agreed with a nod. "I'm quite aware that my adjustment isn't much. It isn't like we had time."
"Tch." His opponent made a noise of frustration and turned back to the match.
Herald shrugged off the rudeness. If the other man wanted to try to needle him pointlessly more power too him. Herald would dearly love becoming an apprentice, but no one here would be harmed by a loss, including him. Some of them would even be able to progress even after a loss here. This had been one of the few times a contest had stakes that actually meant something to people with their resources and that had a way of causing you to think.
Back in the arena the match began with a bang as the larger mech fired off every weapon it had equipped. The accuracy left much to be desired really, but the mass of projectiles more than made up for the lack of precision. Rounds pinged off the spearmen's armor and chunks flew off as the protection did its job, barely. Even as that happened the mech moved as fast as it could, boosting hard with all the additional thrust it could get.
Ponderously the gun-mech turned to following the circling mech. Every step slammed down and it was steadily losing focus. One of the shotguns in it's hand had just the right angle to fire as the spearman circled though and the pilot judged that was the best shot it could get. The weapon fired off and more armor pinged off. One of the added boosters on the hips flew off like a rocket as something came lose and Herald winced.
"Should have fastened that better." He observed.
"There's a reason they're seated in the damned armor normally. The forces involved had it already stressed. Stupid." His opponent pointed out bluntly.
The addons had done their job though. The spearman was close now. The weapon leveled down and stabbed. Metal shrieked against metal and the spearman set his feet and pushed hard. The weapon dug deep before he ripped it out with another clang.
"Oh, it survived." Herald said with a content smile. "Quite nice." He hadn't been sure the spear was good enough really. He could not call himself a specialist in making spears.
The other designer made another noise of frustration.
What followed next was a lot of poking. Herald wanted to wax poetic about it, but it was really just poking. The pilot of his mech was good, there was no doubt there, but when you had to spin around an opponent and stab them with a spear there really weren't many good descriptions for the action. The mech was poked to death. It was stuck like a wild boar. It was stabbed. It was skewered. And Herald was out of descriptions he could think of in his head right then and there.
He was making it sound boring. It was actually interesting from a technical standpoint. The spearman had to maneuver just right to keep out of reach of the many weapons. It involved a lot of ducking and boosting as well as stabbing. The armor could only take so much, and it was very much on its last legs. It took about a minute before the damage was enough to drop the larger mech, and that concluded the match.
To Herald's complete lack of surprise his opponent stalked off immediately. The designer didn't bother to say anything to the departing man. He obviously had a lot of anger or something like that. It wasn't anything of Herald's business anyway. He needed to get ready for the finals. That was going to mean a lot of work!
It was him versus the sleeping man. He was quite looking forward to it even if his opponent wasn't taking it really seriously. He did hope that the poor man didn't get strangled before the end of it. More than a few people looked pretty close.
