With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

He's Apokaliptian, what did you expect?

Unless he didn't collapse and is just being blocked by Grayven.

I think future him in the April Fools episode mentioned that he's no longer the only enlightened Lantern in his Corps.

New Gods seem to like to get their hands dirty.

During the British takeover episode the Spider, an assassin renegade hired and healed, basically told renegade that Apokaliptians seem to like to get into fights even when it wasn't really practical or necessary for them to do it.

 

Any Commander that doesn't see decisive action is needed in this situation...

Dox better be dead, fired or relegated to backline duties.

 

He could just be blocked by Grayven.

 

Hopefully everyone remembers that this version of Vril Dox II has a history of:

Abused and used by his Father/Creator => Abused and used by the Dominators => Randomly became the head of L.E.G.I.O.N (Stellar Navy and Orange Lantern Corp).

This could very well be his first ever combat situation (aside from escaping the Dominator prison). 12th level intellect or not, millions of simulations or not. This is (may be?) his first time in actual battle.

 

Then why can OL talk to his subordinates?

Maybe but given how he handled himself in the prison break I'd hope he was more competent.

 

Because Grayven may just be blocking any communications that OL is trying to make that extend beyond the part of space they are in, but leaving him the ability to talk to those closest to him.

 

Or, as the New God of Conquest, he may be doing something to sow confusion in the ranks of his enemies by cutting off their ability to communicate with their leadership.

 

If communications were cut off, I would expect Dox to just sit around and twiddle his thumbs. Blocked communications are an insurmountable obstacle, after all.

 

I'm expecting him trying to figure out how to reestablish communications, maybe with the help of the mages, if this is because of Grayven's powers.

 

OL is the Cake Guy not the Pie Guy Darko.

Oh he's awake. It's just that he was so busy being a boss that he forgot to recharge his ring before the attack and he now can't find his charger anywhere. It happens

That dastardly Apokoliptian keeps jumping ahead and killstealing!

Well... OL is hanging out with Angelika isn't he.

 

That, and the simulations probably didnt include 'suddenly New God', which would be even more distressing.

 

... to you... It doesn't seem right to you. I get that. But remember English isn't standard across the world and one of the language's greatest strengths is that lack of a central authority... It might not sound right but the meaning gets through.

Edit: I meant to add that I agree with you, it doesn't sound right to me either.

 

But OL spoke with the Fleet didn't he?

That makes more sense but wouldn't OL and the ship captains also count as leadership?

 

I’m assuming Dox is either dead or incapacitated through some exotic New God-means, either through a direct attack by whoever is leading the Gordanians (probably Grayven-16), or by some countermeasure that he triggered when trying to scan/collect information about them. Him folding under the pressures of actual battle seems out of character for someone as in control/dispassionate as him, as does being so laser-focused on something else that he’d ignore his duties as commander. And I don’t think it’s just that his communication is being blocked - Paul was still able to communicate with the rest of the fleet, not just the other lanterns, and Dox, with his huge, throbbing brain, would likely have found some sort of workaround for that.

 

I'm with Darko on this one. Adding a 'willing to' after 'more' or since this is the orange light, 'eager to' would sound better.

 

That song was so very orange lantern that without the Nazi paraphernalia I would have assumed it to be an obscure song about something else.

Can see why the song applies to this situation.

Dox clearly got fucked when he tried to learn what the fuck was going on, or by Grayven using his divine portfolio to fuck with the commander of the NEMO/LEGION force (and Dox has no oomph to defend himself from such an attack), but little did Grayven know that the second in command is orders of magnitude stronger in the metaphysical sence than the actual leader and now his efforts and constant Godspeech tantrums and demands for attention are being ignored by OL, and thanks to the Renegade we know being ignored weakens Grayven by a fair deal.

 

Worse OL is actively mocking him, by singing in his face.

 

But shouldn't Grayven know this already? He had a chance to see OLC Illustres pull a construct fleet out of his ass on that war effort conference. If he knows anything about Lanterns he knows that Paul lifts.

 

Yeah, Grayven targeting the enemy commander with his Conqueror's mojo seems the most likely reason.

 

His envoy did, but I get what you are saying.

However, knowing Paul is powerful isn't the same as being ignored after a powerful display like that. Is like watching a guy lift a ton of weight then purposefully sitting in the bench next to him to lift a similar amount only for the guy to get up and completely ignore you.

 

Grayven will not accept being ignored like that. There's really only one way to resolve this issue and it isn't 'who can sink more Reach ships'. It's one big, widely televised Cake Off competition.

 

Hopefully with singing.

 

Darko, try reading it as "Hopefully they'll be more do-it-on-their-own-initiative in- ... -future.", as I'm pretty sure that's what Mr Zoat is going for. The hyphenated part is to be treated as a single unit. If you were to replace it with something like "independent" or "self-motivating", to use another hyphenated construction, and it works, then the sentence as a whole works. That said, I would personally have written it with the hyphens for clarity's sake, but I'm not the author, so it's not my call.

 

Yes, you're correct. I think I was looking at the wrong part of the sentence.

 

I'm pretty sure the song predates the Nazis (although my low-effort attempt to find out quickly just lead me to an article on Cabaret), they just claimed it very loudly, same as the swastika, and probably other things.

 

Guessing he tried to fight a Soul War with a New God. And it went about as expected.

Think there should be a ‘to’ between achieve and manifest.

 

Some guy (PortionoftheCure) who tattooed the OLC symbol on his hand as a tribute to this story accidentally just posted on the archive thread.

 

Yeah my bad long time reader and haven't payed attention to this site format

 

Hey Mr Zoat I accidentally posted this on the story only thread, but I got a tattoo in honor of OL!

https://imgur.com/a/MiMjR3E

 

PortionoftheCure, you know what you-.

Whut?