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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Experienced.

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    I am not a fan of whatever they do to chocolate in Vienna and Germany. It tastes weird.

    Here chocolate is done with powered milk and is... ok

    My country actually makes decent to awesome powered milk and is not like you want fresh milk for something that's supposed to last like a year.
     
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  2. Senevri

    Senevri Know what you're doing yet?

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    Renegade fights an ancient sorcerer and faces the threat of infectious body horror

    Paragon talks about shipping logistics.
     
  3. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    Shame on paul, HOW DARE he allow that transgression against all that is good and chocolate!
     
  4. LZB1285

    LZB1285 Getting out there.

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    The quickest way I can think of to setup a Dolman Gates tranport system would be to (ab)use the existing port/train interface hub's and trainyards. If you put gates on the exits you effectively remove to distance between all the loading/unloading facilities.

    For trans-continental shipping you'll still have to build a few miles of each gauge track in each port, parallel to your existing loading track, but at least all the cranes are already in place.
     
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  5. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    There's very little point in trying to sell something to someone who doesn't want it.
     
  6. I_S

    I_S Getting some practice in, huh?

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    So trains, are actually a waste of time and effort entirely, if the dolman gate has no depth or travel time your real goal is maximize the speed at which you can pass things through it rather than moving the largest possible container through at any given time.

    Best option would be an automated sliding mount system to pass shipping containers through between fully automated shipping centers.
    I'd suggest two dolman gates per production center, one incoming, one outgoing, then just setup a constant conveyer of goods through.



    Once its through the dolman gate, hook it into existing land distribution networks.
     
  7. PDV

    PDV The Revelation That Uncertainty is Itself a Answer

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    Current events demonstrating the vulnerability of global supply chains to small damage in the right place probably helped. I can't imagine the Suez got through the Sheeda invasion unscathed, though if it was just wedged ships that would be one of the rare economic problems where Superman is actually an ideal solution. Or in this case, Teth Adom, since he's right there and Kahndahq will directly benefit from the fix.
     
  8. HereforZooat

    HereforZooat Getting out there.

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    There was actually no need for Paul to make those bleed torsion generators. With the way Dolmen gates make distance irrelevant, countries could set up massive singular solar farms or nuclear plants, and use Dolmen gates to transport power everywhere. The gates themselves wouldn't even need to be large, just big enough for the cables to fit through. Hell, if countries can cooperate a little, they could share solar power between them across the globe, and then they don't even need to worry about energy storage, because it's always sunny somewhere.

    If you combine that with the freeze rays and room temperature superconductor/heat spread from the Amazons, you'd have 100% clean power within a few years.

    I totally agree with the above poster, trains don't make any sense for such a short trip.
     
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  9. Coda

    Coda I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Video unavailable.

    Hmm, is the British business jargon different from American? In this context American jargon would have said "competencies" (though "competence" later on would still be correct).
     
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  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    LAND OF THE FREE!
    You hear what the SI hears.
     
  11. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    You make it sound like Paragon needs the money
     
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  12. Galacticplumber

    Galacticplumber Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm pretty sure deliberately blocking people from things they want just to be petty kinda goes against his entire philosophical outlook. I'm not certain mind, but that sounds like one of the least enlightened orange things I can think of.
     
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  13. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    1: I thought he purchased Cadbury before enlightenment but I might be mistaken

    2: I don't see OL handing out illegal drugs

    3: I fear you are taking me to seriously
     
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  14. Twilight666

    Twilight666 Not too sore, are you?

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    The hearing were he made his case is here and he has the orange quotes.
    Also it's enlightened self-interest. Petty or not it's what he wants, and stopping Kraft was something he decided to do as early as episode 4.
    In other words while he wants for people to get what they want, he also counts as people and frankly his wants have priority.

    Also while to us the whole kraft thing is a petty thing, for a British person it might be look differently
     
  15. Threadmarks: The Other Half (part 18)
    Mr Zoat

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    13th July 2012
    10:00 GMT -4


    Director Armstrong is glowering at me the moment I walk in the door.

    "Agent Grayven, what-?"

    And that's when she sees Sam as he walks in behind me.

    "General Lane."

    Sam nods politely. "Director Armstrong. Grayven called me in due to the potential military ramifications of what happened yesterday, and the attacks on US service personnel."

    I shrug. "There's no sense in having the same meeting twice, is there?"

    And maybe you'll learn from this and be less of a bitch to your own secretary in future so you actually get some warning when I turn up with the Head of Future Warfare.

    I mean, I'm not hopeful, but it could happen.

    I generate a construct chair and sit down on this side of her desk, while Sam pulls over the room's other chair. I'm sure that this sort of debriefing is supposed to happen in a meeting room along with a panel of analysts and.. probably someone from the Department of Energy. And Larissa, of course. But Director Armstrong made it a one-on-one in her office because she wanted to have a mare at me. I'm not sure what she thought that would achieve, but she's got the soul of a terrier and doesn't let go even when she should. I agreed to be an agent. I did not agree to be a chew toy.

    "So." I take a holoscreen emitter out of subspace and put it on her desk. A moment later it switches to showing highlights of Aberrance. "Had a busy day yesterday. Aberrance got attacked by someone I strongly suspect to be Ahri'ahn, the founder of Atlantean civilisation."

    Sam frowns. "Atlantis sunk thousands of years ago. Shouldn't he be dead by now?"

    "According to a few unageing people I've spoken to, he got into the habit of.. skipping periods. Time travelling forwards. He might be unageing as well, but most ancient magicians do that by binding themselves to a greater power and all the records I've seen say that he finds the idea of doing that revolting."

    Sam raises his left eyebrow.

    "All of them?"

    "Circe had a pact with Hecate, Doctor Mist is supposed to have made a pact with the Spirit of Earth… Humans can't live indefinitely, but they only have to become a little bit inhuman to dodge that." I shrug and shake my head. "Or they can take a running jump into the deep end. But being really good at magic doesn't automatically make you unageing, otherwise Atlantis would have a lot more archmages."

    And probably own the planet.

    "Anyway, I've genomorphs doing interviews, but my provisional summary is that Ahri'ahn arrived in Aberrance around about mid-morning local time. He used a minor mind affect spell to encourage people to go along with what he wanted and took a tour of the place. We're still trying to map his actual route and make sure that we disenchant everyone he touched. We've got him on camera, so I'm not sure if he doesn't know about cameras or just didn't care."

    The holoscreen displays a selection of the recovered images. He doesn't look like Mr. Knightley at all. His expression appears to be one of the same blank disinterest that he wore when I saw him, though he's clearly taking everything in.

    "The actual attack started closer to mid-day, local time, when various objects began self-animating. Concrete, rock, in one case heavily radioactive material and in a couple of others transparent aluminium. Ahri'ahn combined this with a couple of automatic attack spells which my colleague Sunset Shimmer is still picking apart to see how they worked. As a result, a number of buildings including the chirurgical centre and the Uncorporation building were attacked. The current death toll stands at a hundred and fifty three, however due to Cranius's efforts most US service personnel will eventually make full recoveries."

    Sam nods. "Were they the focus of the attack?"

    "It didn't look like it, on the grounds that the building wasn't completely flattened and there were survivors. On the basis of what he said to me I'm tentatively concluding that he just wanted the augmentation process shut down, but he certainly wasn't shy about attacking military personnel."

    The holoscreen shows images taken from the centre's cameras, as well as a diagram of the stages of the attack as best as we've been able to recreate it.

    "As you can see, while not exactly well organised, Ahri'ahn was able to bring overwhelming power to bear on.. what is essentially a civilian instillation very quickly. The survival of so many soldiers can be attributed to Cranius's quick thinking and triage skill."

    Director Armstrong nods slowly. "What exactly did Cranius do?"

    "Cut off their still-living heads and attached them to functional bodies, sometimes several at a time."

    Sam's mouth drops open. "Seriously?" I nod. "And he made that work? No, of course he did. So they're just.. heads?"

    "He's going to be creating new bodies for them as soon as he has the facilities. For the moment they're transferring them to temporary bodies so they can at least move around."

    Bodies made in a rush by Mr. Fiendstein. Most of the soldiers found it funny… At least after checking that they were getting human bodies back at some point. But a few completely freaked out and had to be anesthetised.

    Director Armstrong's eyes narrow slightly.

    "Cranius can create entire human bodies."

    "Cranius can create entire inhuman bodies. They're not going to get back exactly what they lost."

    "Will they still be human?"

    "They'll be made of human tissue, certainly. It's not a perfect fix but the alternative was death. May I continue?" She nods. "Shortly before my arrival Ahri'ahn attacked the Uncorporation building directly and forced entry into the secure vault where they keep the insectoids. They got out and immediately began attacking everyone they encountered. We haven't been able to identify everyone due to how the.. conversions go, so we probably won't know exactly who they turned until people are reported missing."

    "Can it happen again?"

    "There are levels of power against which static defence matters very little. There were armed guards throughout Aberrance, and the insectoids are kept behind metres of steel-reinforced concrete. But stopping magicians as powerful as Ahri'ahn isn't something that 'reasonable' measures can do. Cranius is going to get some magic protection, but this is like…"

    Sam nods. "Trying to stop Superman."

    "Superman still gets hard-countered by kryptonite. Sufficiently capable magic users can't be stopped by anything other than another thing like them."

    Director Armstrong's jaw tightens. "Like Black Adam."

    I nod. "He's a friend of mine. Since he's quite good at dealing with powerful magicians-."

    "And Circe."

    "Like Circe, yes. Another friend of mine I asked to assist. Wonderful things, friends. You might want to look into it."

    Sam flashes me a warning glance.

    "So how do we stop this happening again?"

    Director Armstrong's expression is more 'hard' than 'concerned'. "And how do we kill Ahri'ahn?"

    "Stopping it happening again would involve putting an archmage in every location you want to protect, with more on standby. After a certain point… All you can do is make attacking a place more trouble than it's worth. Killing Ahri'ahn would just prevent him doing it again, it wouldn't stop anyone else."

    "That wasn't why I asked. He killed US servicemen and women. He's signed his death warrant."

    I shake my head. "The US doesn't do those, I asked. And so I'll thank you not to imply that I should violate my oath of office. But to my mind killing him would involve bringing to bear power of a sort we don't have in a place with no bystanders. We need more magicians."

    Sam nods. "Think Atlantis will be willing to help bring this guy down?"

    I shrug. "We can always ask."
     
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  16. Idkusername

    Idkusername Versed in the lewd.

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    once -> one

    do

    We be needing subject verb agreement.
     
  17. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    He -> He's
     
  18. Darko

    Darko Well worn.

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    Immortals Sam, they're a bitch.

    The White Light Entity to be specific.

    And it wasn't so much a pact as it was him seeing how some of it functioned and altering his soul to match.

    At least from what I remember Zoat saying once.

    Well that's fucking. terrifying.

    Perfectly understandable.

    He's even racist with god's and higher powers.

    And powerful ones at that.

    I'm sure they will be.

    Unless some people decide that because their founder did this then they should help him.
     
  19. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Getting sticky.

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    While doing my best to steer clear of the current politics rule, I would point out that the US, like most nations, takes a very long view of the concepts of "active threat" and "imminent threat." Simply because it is not legal domestically does not mean equivalents do not exist. Ahri'ahn is, technically, a foreign national who attacked United States' civilians on United States territory before retreating to presumably non US territory in order to escape from justice and demonstrated a willingness to use lethal force while evading authorized legal agents of the US government, which Grayven technically is..

    Yes that doesn't quite line up with his in character motivations but it would be trivially easy to spin that way.

    An alternative would also be extraordinary rendition "gone wrong."
     
  20. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Paul only knows that because he's talked to Doctor Mist. The Renegade hasn't, so he isn't privy to that information. Mr Zoat, has the Renegade done anything to confirm for himself if the White Light Entity is on Earth?
     
  21. DrThoth

    DrThoth Not too sore, are you?

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    I can accept typical comics logic (or real-life governmental bureaucracy logic, for that matter) but is there any specific reason that Armstrong was hired as director? I believe Zoat did answer this after her initial appearance, which I've naturally forgotten, but I'd like to ask that of her comics incarnation too.

    Only tangentially related to your post, but the Renegade should really actively try to track down the Spear of Destiny at some point, either directly or through his allies. In terms of advanced magical potential risks to the US (or world in general), that seems like a big one.

    Also, having read Ryuugi's DC fic Fear fairly recently, I wanted to ask if the Holy Grail is around in the setting, I forget if that's ever been brought up.
     
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    Well, not the General Lane segment I was expecting.. yet. But at least he's involved. And Grayven's nominal boss in the Department of Extra-human Affairs, yes? Not a conversation Grayven wants to have multiple times, eh?

    Nicely summarised. Not wasting any time, I see.

    Eh, Super-Secret Organisational types tend to be too set in their ways to change so easily.

    Ah, optimism. Honestly, it's unlikely as hell.

    Ah, she was hoping to have a good, relaxing shouting session at a sloppy agent. Too bad Grayven isn't that stupid...

    You'd be amazed how long humans can live. Remember the tale of Hob Gadling? Or that cave-man fellow killed off during the Kindly Ones arc of 'Sandman'?

    Explains his manner of dress, certainly. I'll bet that he mind-reaped Young Arion to get updated information on the modern era, including language. And then killed him out of spite for using his name.

    Especially when some of the methods are less than pleasant. Lichdom, for instance. Magic has a price, and that price can change you...

    Probably the latter, depending on how up to date his information is. He struck me as arrogant and cocky. He was the biggest fish in his pond in his prime. And even now, there are few who can match him in skill, I'll bet.

    And working himself up to a proper snit, eh? Getting more and more disgusted inside, until...

    Ouch. Not a good day for Aberrance and the Uncorporation. No doubt there are already families suing them for damages...

    Striking down the guardsmen foolish enough to try and strike against their clear superior? You know, because racist.

    A spectaular, if disturbing display, certainly.

    Using biomancy to make up for things like insufficient blood flow and the like, I expect. Until he could get a few spare lungs and hearts in place.

    Heh. they're either going to love them or hate them. Depending on their tolerance for the 'freakshow shit'...

    Gribbly. And grisly. Wonder if the US would be willing to pay a little extra for some post-human upgrades to the rebuilt bodies?

    Well, what do you expect? He's merely living up to the example of his master, Anton Arcane, and following in the footsteps of Doctor Frankenstein.

    Well, that depends on how narrow your definition of human is. What's your feeling on things like extra limbs, armoured skin or chameleonic fur?

    You do know there's at least twenty, though... At the minimum.

    Imagine someone cracking a walnut with a twenty-pound sledgehammer... For fun. That's about where Arion the Elder stands on that power scale.

    And even then it's a matter of who gets the first spell off, sometimes. For all their defences, mages can be squishy. Or they can be demonically enhanced super-soldier psychics, yes.

    "He said something about practising ahead of settling an old grudge."

    :p Maybe leave some aloe for that burn, Grayven. I though Reds were the experts in incendiary words.

    That's quite the conundrum. After all, if only an arch-mage can fight an arch-mage effectively... Well. Have you tested your soldiers for magical potential recently?

    As they would be well aware of with all the other magical attacks, from Wotan's little sun-blocking attempts to Klarion's world-splitting spell.

    This isn't 'Worm', you know. No kill orders, tried in absentia here. But a bounty on his head, dead only, might be helpful.

    Ooooh, boy. Is that conversation going to be awkward.

    About what I expected from a debrief, though I'm surprised it took so long. Then again, I expect Grayven was busy getting all his T's crossed and I's dotted. Including assisting with Search and Rescue. Seriously, over one hundred and fifty dead? :oops: People are going to be pissed...
     
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    Why would he? There is a reason most fans call the thing the "White asshole" and why making the Joker be the entity avatar makes perfect sense.
     
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    But he's still very, very stupid.

    Yeah the guy tried to brag to Death of how long he lived and she told him he got what everyone else got, one life.

    They're more experts in incendiary spit.
     
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    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    The Renegade's never met him.
    My understanding is that even in cases like that, the American military phrases orders as instructions to 'capture if possible without undue risk'.
    Thank you, corrected.
    He tries to avoid even thinking about it.
    She's actually really good at the job. Most of the job. The problem with Grayven is that she can't meaningfully punish him or scare him, and she hates the fact that she was second pick after him.
     
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    Vaermina Versed in the lewd.

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    If he's even half way competent, you don't.
     
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    Exactly! Just look at Klarion, Nabu, The First of the Fallen...

    ...Wait a minute.
     
  29. Vorian

    Vorian I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    'flattened'
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
     
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