With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Thank you, corrected.

 

I think to reform a national spirit like Uncle Sam you have to perform a whole magic ritual? At least that's what the nazis did.

 

No, they did it like that because they wanted to rig the result.

 

Yeah, they found the guy that symbolized the spirit of Germany but he symbolized a different era in Germany, not the Nazi one, so the Thules basically magically altered the guy to become more like a symbol for Nazi Germany.

 

Good thing Oh El doesn't have a human soul then.

 

True, but that didn't exactly prevent him from being corrupted by Hell magic, like when he, Ambrose and Jade went to Hell.

 

It really is lucky that, in the universe where he had access to Overman and Kryptonian technology, Hitler decided magic was silly and purged the Thule Society. If he also had the Spear of Destiny to reinforce National Socialist thought/rule? At the very least Overman wouldn't have the doubts he does. Hell, he might have eagerly participated in the genocides to make them more thorough.

Though I am curious . . . The excuse for superheroes not stomping the Axis flat is that if they entered their sphere of influence the Spear of Destiny would put the mind whammy on them and force them to fight for the Axis. Well, I think they could get away with in and out raids. They just couldn't stick around long enough to meaningfully contribute.

But, like, does this mean they didn't have to worry about partisans on Earths where the Nazis had the Spear? Was everyone in occupied Europe just perfectly compliant with Nazi rule? Including those they wanted to kill? Was the DC Holocaust worse because they were all eagerly collaborating?

And I guess the same for Japan and its fucked up stuff in occupied Asia. If I remember right, they were given the Holy Grail to perform a similar mind whammy ritual for their sphere of influence.

 

No, they had to deal with collaborators. Wolf could probably have worked something out, but it wasn't like he wanted less killing and so just keeping the superheroes out was enough.

While the Japanese had magicians, the Grail was outside of their mythos and they didn't know what to do with it beyond following the instructions the Thule Society provided.

 

'America'

Maybe 'appears to have'

Maybe 'let him manipulate'

'him other than'

 

Thank you, corrected.

No, those are correct.

 

Greed is one of the enemies of man after all.

 

The greed from the emotional spectrum is pretty much a mix of envy, lust, greed, gluttony, pride, and sloth, all in one.

 

should be ' take a closer '

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Maybe 'sound, even assuming'

Don't forget shooting you with the Ace of Winchester.

Actually, I don't think she stabbed him at all, so maybe change it to 'She shot me'.

Don't worry, Karl.

Paul is an expert at doing crazy.

Hah!

Clark knows what Paul is all about.

 

Oh my god Purgatory you can't just ask someone why they are orange!

 

Ok, this had me chuckling something good. Paul can do crazy and weird without trying, so this should be amusing to watch.

 

Oh, my, what a line to open on! Though He's referring to the fortress, I'll bet. I hope they're observing from a safe distance, and well-concealed from Demon-Superman's senses. Then again, he's probably watching them anyway, just waiting for the right moment to smash in and dash their hopes of success, for maximum despair.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

And if they get the angles right, they could probably use his fortress as cover from his heat vision of doom.

Interestingly, one Fortress design he used at this time was a spherical Tesseract device, an orb the size of maybe a car. This is the more likely option. Classy.

Then put it somewhere no-one would come looking. That's the whole point of a Fortress of Solitude...

But by the same extent, sometimes you need the exceptional or individualistic aspects in order to progress...

"Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure." Unfortunately, I suspect Demon Superman has added all manner of defences to it beyond the purely scientific.

You're only going to get one shot at this, after all. Pick the wrong target, and the next time, Demon Superman will be waiting for you...

Hopefully the spell doesn't affect solely through the shape, like the Scry Wards back on Earth-16. Though I suspect Enlightenment would provide quite solid resistance to mind-altering effects. Never mind the spell-eater.

Nor did anyone else, except the demons. And they don't count.

I mean, he does have the ability to regenerate himself easily enough. I shudder to imagine what it would be like for a masochist with a ring...

At least he's super-intelligent enough not to touch that straight line...

A sensible question, given the state of the Americas in his world.

Logical that they'd know Spanish, probably because Germany backed one faction during the Civil War there in the thirties. I suppose it's no great challenge for a Kryptonian to learn a new language anyway.

...These three? It'd be like dipping a supermodel in mud. No matter how you dirty it up, the beauty underneath will shine through...

Worst case, claim they're Europeans from some remote plantation? Not like the daemons will be looking too closely... Until the smart ones catch sight of them.

Proof they are the same person deep down, whatever their upbringing.

...Well, it is the quickest route in. And I doubt the guards will be all that clever.

Little to no sense of self-preservation. About what you'd expect. But they were probably sending through z-listers...

OL, no. Don't you remember? Never split the party! On the other hand, would this make him the rogue?

Rather painfully, I expect. Just act like your IQ is about.. half of its normal score...

Let's hope it's not the kind of attention you won't like...

Ooof, one more of Neron's victims... He's had many in the years since he was introduced... Thankfully, he was never as clever as he thought he was.

Fortunately, even if he attacks, OL can stomp him without breaking character...

Thankfully, it looks like this guy has the same debuff to intelligence that all the Marked have...

Yes, bring the 'fly' into the spider's parlour...

Still no guarantee that this 'Prophet' is Wolf Kreiger, but it's probably one step closer to finding out. Hopefully, OL can avoid his cover being blown until the Super-trio arrive. With any luck, the Prophet won't be shielded against empathic vision, so that OL can tell him exactly what he wants to hear... Then when they have what they need to know, they can pull a Samson on the place...

 

Paul Christian?

A guy Kyle Raynor gave a bit of power to so he could have legs again. Sold out to Neron the demon lord for more power.

 

This made me break out in giggles.

 

It's a fairly cheap shot anyway.

If anything the mud would make them more attractive.

I'd say he's more wizard or thief.

They better keep him in their sight.

True, if I remember correctly he once tried to get Billy Batson's soul due to its purity, even though he can't have pure souls, and later tried to get someone's love, even though it's poisonous to him.

 

I'm surprised to see him, I got the impression that just imbuing people with Emotional electromagnetic Energy that they can just use without a ring was something that didn't fit within the rules that Zoat made for this fic's cosmology when I mentioned him before. Without becoming an elemental of course.

Hallalax ended up doing the same thing to Stewart when he healed him. "Hey don't do that!" and bam green energy blast without a ring, to everyone's surprise.

And Neon's origin. A green lantern blew up in her face and she absorbed the energy and became a living lantern herself

DC apparently likes that trick, lantern types who need neither ring nor lantern.

 

That may be true for Earth 16 but not necessarily for this version of Earth.

 

No, I think that's correct.

Ah, I misremembered. Thank you, corrected.

 

I checked after I saw this, and it still says stabbed.

 

You have to wait for me to click 'save'.

 

Perhaps but Zoat keeps things rather uniform in between dimensions so this would be an exception to the rule.

For example there isn't a single dimension we've seen where Alan doesn't seem to share the Earth-16 "has a broken lantern corps ring."

Reading this fic, would you know that usually Alan made his own ring? Took a hammer and chisel to his power battery because he didn't want to lug his lantern around so he carved himself something a bit more portable.

 

I laughed so hard at this part!

That link is dead. I think that this is the image that was supposed to be there.

Broken link again. I normally wouldn't mention one of those without a suggestion for a replacement, but this one was kinda important to the chapter. Zoat even put the final line in a spoiler to make sure the reader would look at the picture carefully before the reveal.

 

Mr Zoat, these parts aren't under the correct date on the TOC. Part 10 should be April 2, and part 11 should be below Aug. 12, 1997.