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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. ZzzSlothzzZ

    ZzzSlothzzZ The Giver of warm hugs

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    Bloody oath.
     
  2. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    Remind me; how is Alan recharging?
     
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  3. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Sadly, I doubt it's like he's got an Experience Bar labelled 'Constantine-ness'. Most people don't have that kind of aid for emotional or mental stability. However much some might wish they did... :confused: Well, not a 'Constantine-ness' bar, but you get what I mean.

    :V Oh, nice burn, OL. Think Demon boy there needs some cream for that one?

    To be fair, he might well do a better job of things than John did, if he weren't motivated to tear it all down...

    I mean, it's not like he holds much sanctity in the value of Human life anyway. Probably singe him if he did.

    And somewhere in San Francisco, Zauriel feels a chill run down his spine.

    ...I wonder how he'd get on with Sally Sonic. Remember her? The teenager 'blessed' with fey immortality, and later fed a potion that removed all Hope, Compassion and Love from her psyche?
    (edited, after Mr Zoat's correction.)

    I assume he's looking for a way to get out of the whole 'multiple murders' thing...

    On the other hand, that would mean learning what he knows and feels, every time you recall him to the ring.

    On the other hand, I can't imagine Enlightenment being particularly bad for him. Imagine always knowing that 'All Will Be Well' all the time? Bet Saint Walker will be Enlightened if he ever shows up.

    Also, I bet you feeling like your brain needs a shower, now...

    Yes, please do piss off the primal incarnation of Hope. You might make it feel rage for the first time in history...

    I seriously doubt the Tower's wards wouldn't notice the Demon, even if...

    ...His figurative 'key' fits the lock.

    Except they're trying for subtlety, OL. Going all FEED on the wards would be like employing a Thunder Hammer to crack a walnut...

    And I have no doubt John's got lots of protections in place against OL, just in case.

    Oh, yay. Not just a heist, but one involving a metaphysical road trip...

    Huh, guess you don't really want to do it that way, then? :p

    OL, that kind of thing might get her Daddy mad at you again. Also, do you want her meeting the Demon Constantine?

    OL, no. You do not go introducing the super-science savants to the metaphysical.

    Gods only know what they'd get up to with it. Nothing pleasant, surely.

    Good to hear he's been adapting to modern life. Wonder what he makes of the Internet?

    Tactful, Alan. Well done.

    Let's hope he'll leap at the chance to do some heroing, assuming he hasn't been already.

    Schyeah, right... :rolleyes:

    Hopefully that won't take long?

    Oh, right, that was a thing...

    Okay, then. Sounds like the heist is on.

    This is certainly promising. Getting to see Sandy again after a while, and getting him to use his connection to the Dreaming to navigate? With the Demon Constantine in tow? What could possibly go wrong? Such is the joy of devising a plan with so many moving parts, I suppose. Let's just hope this catches John Quinn off-guard. For all we know, he has a permanent scrying watch on OL, after all...



    Missing Full Stop.
     
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  4. Old Knife

    Old Knife Not too sore, are you?

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    Stop giving demon Constantine more ideas.
    It's mildly terrifying.
     
  5. BlackCoat13

    BlackCoat13 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Weaponer made a Hope Lantern (and paired Ring) after Paul badgered and wheedled him into it. Currently makes it the only Blue Lantern and Ring in existence until we see signs of any other existing Blue.
    Minor whoops considering that Paul already shared the story of Saint Walker, who've we've not seen any signs of and may not even exist / had his background happened yet.
     
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  6. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    No, Alan's ring changed colors when he charged his ring on hope.

    A blue ring was never part of the deal.
     
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  7. Duke Long

    Duke Long Glomerulus

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    ‘thet’
    ’thet’
     
  8. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    An onanistic personal lantern.
    No, the fairy blessing stopped her aging. The psychopathy was from a British-made augentation formula.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
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  9. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Or make her hope for his death.
    Sandy: There is a lot of porn on this thing...
     
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  10. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Honestly, it's more likely to be: "Um. Why-why are they all naked-? TURNITOFFTURNITOFF!"
     
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  11. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    Not helped by the fact that, as a sand elemental, Sandy is no longer able to enjoy such things.
     
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  12. AR760

    AR760 Experienced.

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    You know, I am honestly still a bit iffy regarding the Demonology of this setting, and of Demon John in particular.

    Does becoming Demon essentially twist you into someone who enjoys Kick the Puppy kinds of behavior intrinsically? Or are engaging in the types of behaviors that increase suffering or are tied into negative traits necessary for a Demon to feed off of to survive? I feel like I remember reading that gaining power from darker actions and such is something Demons can do, but is it required for them to exist as sentient beings to begin with?

    Because if becoming a Demon turns you into a Psychopath, that's something else entirely. Sure, psychopaths are scary as fuck as a concept, but there are plenty who operate successfully in society without really ever directly harming another human being. Unless they are on the farthest of the far side of psychopathy, deriving joy from suffering doesn't exactly come packaged in to the condition of anti-social personality disorder.

    I mean, just because someone doesn't get the dopamine button hit from helping other human beings like psychopaths or Demon John doesn't seem to doesn't mean that it automatically switches to them getting joy from causing them suffering either.
     
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  13. NightmareWarden

    NightmareWarden Versed in the lewd.

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    Before I ask Mr Zoat, I’m curious what everyone here can come up with.
    How would Common Sense!Paul handle Alan’s rapid aging (since it looked like he converted Alan’s green lantern from what I recall). Seek Green Enlightenment and use it to call the whale?
     
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  14. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    Mr Zoat actually already showed that. Paul found a loophole in the rules that allowed Alan to recharge from Hal's lantern.
     
  15. BR549

    BR549 This is filth! FILTH!!

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    Strictly speaking, the Demon Constantine wasn't twisted into running only off The Bad Stuff - that's how Original Flavor John made him.
     
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  16. NightmareWarden

    NightmareWarden Versed in the lewd.

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    Thank you!
     
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  17. Rafin

    Rafin Not too sore, are you?

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    Well even if he is, so what? Should he have killed him instead? Imprisoned him and let him accumulate the Chaos Power until it's enough to let him escape? Ground it and let perfectly good magical energy go to waste?
     
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    w34v3r Versed in the lewd.

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    I dunno, at the very least merging Demon C. back in may make John less likely to pull this bullshit in the future, and I think we can all agree that Constantine replicating via fission is worth taking a few risks to prevent.
     
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  19. AmericanNumbers

    AmericanNumbers Not too sore, are you?

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    I don't get the resentment that Paul has for the Demon Constantine. He was created evil and is actively trying to improve himself.
     
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  20. Rebu

    Rebu hey, little Anna, you're the one

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    w34v3r Versed in the lewd.

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    Paul puts up with Constantine's shenanigans because of his virtues, Demon C. is everything wrong with John, with none of the upsides that Paul cares about, nor is he made of anything useful John had when Paul started interacting with him. I imagine that he's a very unpleasant individual to be around on an empathic level as well.
     
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  22. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Also:

    Sandy: Hey neat, that girl graduated with honors from her university...Wow, those are a lot of rape threats.

    It seems to be more committing evil actions.

    Simpson for example only absorbed demon energy and became a demon but was otherwise fairly moral, or at least compared to most demons, but that speedster demon only became one after he started engaging in evil actions.

    That was laready covered; he found a loophole in GLC policy that allowed them to heal people the Lantern may deem important and that allowed Hal to use his Lantern to recharge Alan's ring.

    The demon Constantine has so far shown no desire to improve himself and has continued to engage in evil actions.

    He's also the worst parts of John given form, and John even on hid best days is a piece of shit you wouldn't spit on, so this version is far far worse.
     
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  23. Windona

    Windona Beetle Queen of Crackshipping

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    Ah, the Return of Sandy!

    It's a shame for Demon!Constantine, because he does show love for one person so the love crystal could work. And I don't think turning him into an anger or fear elemental is a good idea.
     
  24. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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  25. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    That would be being consumed by hope.

    Hope enlightenment would be Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.
     
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  26. Doccer

    Doccer I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Wasn't John Quinn the one who asked Paul about John Constantine and started this witch hunt in the first place? Why would he be the one hiding him?
     
  27. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    No, he isn't the one who asked Paul to look for John Constantine. It was various other people, who were worried that him disappearing off the face of the Earth was a sign that something bad is happening.
     
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  28. _The_Bomb

    _The_Bomb Getting sticky.

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    Also sounds quite a bit like the ‘real’ Constantine.
     
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  29. dw7thdoctor

    dw7thdoctor Getting sticky.

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    personal power battery made by a weaponer.
     
  30. Perchance

    Perchance Getting out there.

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    You know I actually quite like this, Paul sometimes really does feel like he thinks he can nom his way through any mystical problem now that he's figured out devouring magic with the orange light (something that I imagine someone will eventually use as a trap once they figure out what he's doing). I'm personally really eager to see more of Dr. Mist in action. Sidebar and this may have been answered ages ago, but do any of the mystical doctors possess an actual doctorate? I fully believe Nommo has the smarts and knowledge to qualify for an MD of some kind, but does he have the little and very expensive piece of paper?
     
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