With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[BR549]

I'm guessing most telekinetics cap out at around a pound of so of movable mass, and slowly at that.

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While B5 is a setting where (thanks to the Vorlons) almost everyone has telepaths, telekinesis is extremely rare. Part of the whole point of the 'enhancements' they gave Ironheart was trying to get a teek, as I recall.

(Unfortunate that the...creative differences...meant the 'gift' of TK he gave Talia before leaving went unexplored.)

Question. So there is this time loop thing going on with Sinclair/Valen right? Could Matthew's presence disturb the proper course of events, or does the time loop reinforce itself to make sure it works out properly?

How does time work in the Babylon 5 universe? You would think Somebody as powerful as Matthew would be bound to make major changes eventually.

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Time works quite well, thank you.

...more seriously, the only real way to time travel is the Great Machine under the surface of Epsilon Eridani. Built by an unspecified ancient race (not, as fanon would tell you, the Vorlons), the only person who knows how it works is Zathras, and Zathras isn't much of one for explanations, they make people yell at Zathras. But it's why B4 became unstuck in time, and how Sinclair - changed into Valen by one of the Great Machine's other functions - took it back in time to win the first Shadow War. I wouldn't put much weight on Matthew's presence disturbing that time loop; it's all but baked into the universe.

The other thing about that has possibilities, though. As a side-effect of sending B4 back in time, Sheridan became briefly unstuck in time, and jumped into the future for a short period. In The Way Home, we learned that he can get unstuck again if exposed to enough tachyons...and can jump between realities that way. He only visited alternate B5s, but given Earth Prime is out there...

 

[Vaermina]

"Minbari society is rigid, with everything in its place. Including the telepaths. Generally, minbari assume that they're regulated by their own superiors just like everyone else. There are a few jobs that require telepaths, but generally they're not treated differently to anyone else. That said, joining Minbari society is a lot like joining a monastic order, so it's not for everyone. You might be better off on one of their protectorate planets rather than an actual minbari world."

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This is straight up innacurate to what the show portrays.

While B5 is a setting where (thanks to the Vorlons) almost everyone has telepaths, telekinesis is extremely rare. Part of the whole point of the 'enhancements' they gave Ironheart was trying to get a teek, as I recall.

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For humans, Telekinetics are 1 in 10,000 telepaths.

(Unfortunate that the...creative differences...meant the 'gift' of TK he gave Talia before leaving went unexplored.)

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It wasn't really creative differences, Andrea Thompson wasnt happy being a secondary character so left the show to pursue other things.

Time works quite well, thank you.

...more seriously, the only real way to time travel is the Great Machine under the surface of Epsilon Eridani. Built by an unspecified ancient race (not, as fanon would tell you, the Vorlons), the only person who knows how it works is Zathras, and Zathras isn't much of one for explanations, they make people yell at Zathras. But it's why B4 became unstuck in time, and how Sinclair - changed into Valen by one of the Great Machine's other functions - took it back in time to win the first Shadow War. I wouldn't put much weight on Matthew's presence disturbing that time loop; it's all but baked into the universe.

The other thing about that has possibilities, though. As a side-effect of sending B4 back in time, Sheridan became briefly unstuck in time, and jumped into the future for a short period. In The Way Home, we learned that he can get unstuck again if exposed to enough tachyons...and can jump between realities that way. He only visited alternate B5s, but given Earth Prime is out there...

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Its not Fanon that the Vorlons built the great machine, its just from the canon RPG's.

 

[BoML]

Here, again...and giving Shaal Mayan a headache, it seems. Now what human nonsense is causing that?

...I'm going to be real, why would Mayan even care about potential human military/navy stuff, especially with different cultures involved? Did she just ask, and now she very much regrets asking?

Spoiler: Spoilered for length

My ring blinks.

"Ah, excuse me." I raise my left hand to my ear and generate a handset. "Matthew Underwood."

"When you said… 'Whatever I can manage'… How fast can you-"

Scan.

Ah, I see. He's… Hiding in an underground car park, and it looks like police in the area are looking for someone.

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Oh, Ironheart's here. This should be good...

Mayan and her room vanish, replaced by… A car park time forgot. I lay my right hand on Mr. Ironheart's shoulder and transition us into orbit.

His head jerks around, staring in shock! "What the fuck!"

"Mister Ironheart. Do you have it?"

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Heh, yeah. Your world is about to be rocked, Ironheart.

He nods jerkily, reaching into his jacket to pull out a data chip. "Everything I could get. They don't exactly keep the backups where anyone can reach them."

Scan.

Oh dear.

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Yeah, bet that reading was nasty in their implications. The program Ironheart was a test subject to is...honestly, I bet Psi Corps were more than willing to pay the price in bodies to get a super telepath/telekine.

"Keep it, you'll likely need it later. And now that I've confirmed your affidavits, I will now tell you that Lyta is a guest of the Vorlon Empire."

"The.. Vorlons..? Because she scanned their ambassador?"

"That's what she gambled on, yes. I've got no idea what they've actually done with her."

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Betting Lyta didn't expect what she got, either. She did end up liking it, but honestly, it did seem to alienate her further.

"First place they'd look." Hm. "Alright, put the chip away, I've taken a copy. Our next stop is Babylon Five, because that's the one place I can speak to a vorlon without intruding on their territory again."

"No one who's gone into vorlon space has ever come back."

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...that was true. The fact that Babylon!Paul is the only one to have done it so far is inconsequential.

"I can ask the other ambassadors if they'll grant you asylum. Ambassador Delenn seemed quite reasonable when I spoke to her. You'd have to abandon your current identity… Honestly, you wouldn't be able to come back from there any more than you would from the Vorlon Empire-. Look, you were on the inside track, right?"

"Of what?"

"Psi Corps." He nods carefully. "How big is the telepath underground? I mean… Are a lot of people trying to avoid Psi Corps, or is it a small number, or what?"

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I fully expect it to be a bit bigger the Psi Corps thinks it is. After all, why would they want to not be part of the Psi Corps? All you have to do is obey what Psi Corps says without question, and your golden.

Ignore the minor inconvenience's like you are only allowed to marry this one individual because that way your kids will likely be stronger telepaths, you're free to use your telepathy whenever you feel like to anyone you feel like, ignore the little discomfort when Psi Cops confirm you're a good little subject...

"I think-. Uh." He cringes, like he just had a stomach cramp-. And… Pale translucent bands of blue-white light run over his visible skin and clothing like a low quality nineties special effect.

"Are you alright?"

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Oh, his thing has started. That's bad...

"No. Psi Corps' attempt to increase my power had certain… Side-effects."

Scan.

Huh.

"I could probably undo the changes to your body, if you wanted. I've got a copy of your pre-experiment medical data."

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If I was Ironheart, I'd be tempted to accept. Very tempted.

"Are you a doctor?"

"No, but I'm not a pilot either, and I fly pretty well."

"No, thank you. I would prefer to ride it out."

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...dude, there's no riding that out. You realized it later, but even you knew you were on the tracks with no breaks. Your days as a corporeal being are numbered.

"No, the jump gate has cameras, and there are a lot of ships in the area."

Set course. Good job Babylon 5 is closer to Earth than to the Vorlon Empire. And engage.

The stars blur around us.

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Yeah, who needs hyperspace when you can go fast in real space?

Mr. Ironheart's eyes widen. "Faster than..? That's… Possible?"

"Yes. They are really quite advanced elder species. Two, one."

And there's Epsilon Eridani. Mr. Ironheart has another quick blue pulse, and then goes back to looking normal.

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From Earth to Babylon 5 in barely...I'd say 15 seconds. Just like that. And good luck for Psi Corps to get a trail they could follow. Hint: it doesn't exist.

"I've got a theme going. To be clear, 'Harvey Dent' isn't a telepath, so don't read anyone's minds."

"I can't completely stop myself; no telepath can."

Synthesise.

A syringe of telepathy suppressant appears in my hand.

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...I'm going to be real, here, and guess that's not going to help nearly as well as either of them think.

"I'm not sure what the glowing thing you're doing is about, but a lot of people live on Babylon Five. I'm fine with taking risks for myself, but I don't intend to put innocent people in danger, or cause unnecessary trouble for my allies. If you're telling me that you have yourself under control, fine. Otherwise…"

He nods, and takes the syringe, while I fly us towards the station.

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What an interesting wrinkle. Whatever trail Ironheart may have left, the Corps have to go through Babylon!Paul to get it. And after he left two of their Psi Cops unconscious. Decisions, decisions...

Hmmm, I'm wondering if Ironheart even tried with suppressants in OTL, I don't remember him mentioning such. Only that his control kept slipping, as his mind and powers kept expanding. Or, following his term, blooming open like a flower.

 

[boo600]

I'm going to be real, why would Mayan even care about potential human military/navy stuff, especially with different cultures involved?

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Well, her goal is mutual understanding that engenders peace. It goes both ways, and she's shown herself - so it makes sense for her to ask.

 

[Mr Zoat]

yes.

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Thank you, corrected.

Here, again...and giving Shaal Mayan a headache, it seems. Now what human nonsense is causing that?

...I'm going to be real, why would Mayan even care about potential human military/navy stuff, especially with different cultures involved? Did she just ask, and now she very much regrets asking?

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She was asking about how humans relate to authority, because that's the most alien thing about our society to her.

I fully expect it to be a bit bigger the Psi Corps thinks it is. After all, why would they want to not be part of the Psi Corps? All you have to do is obey what Psi Corps says without question, and your golden.

Ignore the minor inconvenience's like you are only allowed to marry this one individual because that way your kids will likely be stronger telepaths, you're free to use your telepathy whenever you feel like to anyone you feel like, ignore the little discomfort when Psi Cops confirm you're a good little subject...

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I don't think that's true for most telepaths. They've got to know how crazy that would sound to most people. I imagine that if you're not particularly strong or are obviously not interested, they just make a note in your file and leave you to it.