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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Is the 'she' that does 'that thing with her towel' Bleez or Kara, and which episode (or episodes, if we-the-readers finding out and Jade finding out are separated) is that from, given that I've forgotten and seem not to be the only one?
 
Back Channels (part 7) New
31st July 2013
21:02 GMT


I smile as Director Jeddigar walks into the room. He's.. not wearing his usual suit-. "Director, I hope that I didn't wake you."

"I wouldn't worry about it." He sits down opposite me. "I've been sleeping much better since we started pushing the Reach back. I think I owe you a few hours."

"Well, thank you, but this isn't urgent. It could have waited."

He shrugs. "I'm awake now. What is it that you want?"

"I want to borrow a Darkstar investigation team for action on Earth. I'm not an investigator, and the people I would usually go to may be compromised. I intend to use them for… Perhaps two months? And since the only human in the Darkstars is-"

"Your lover."

"-Jade-. Yes. Ah. Look. I realise-."

"You realise that I assumed that you were asking for a favour when I gave her a position, but your culture frowns upon that sort of 'horse trading' and she does actually have the skills required for the job. And that you are actually asking for a favour now -Earth not being part of NEMO- but that while it is convenient for you she really is the best person to send?"

"That... Mostly. Earth has a great deal of Apokoliptian technology and while I've been assuming that the people still using it are sourcing it either directly or indirectly from Apokolips, it's entirely possible that it's actually coming from Grayven."

He raises his eyebrows. "Is it coming from Grayven?"

"Probably not. But humans are far more compatible with New God technology than most species, so it would actually make sense for him to try something like that."

"May our enemies ever live down to our hopes for them."

"It would be nice. So, is that a problem?"

"No, I'm happy to sign off on that-. I assume that she'd rather take her current squad?"

"Unless there's someone you think is particularly suited to it, yes."

"No, I try to avoid employing insane people as Darkstars." He smiles ruefully, and I mirror his expression. I suppose it is hard to see what sort of person would flourish on Earth. "But I imagine that they'll need time to adjust. You'll make the practical arrangements?"

"There are so many investigations going on that no one will be surprised by me turning up with a squad. I've already expanded the trade post Manga Khan built… Expanding it a little more won't take more than a few minutes."

He smiles, giving his head a small shake. "I'm not quite used to how much you outperform other Lanterns. That should be adequate. I'll draft the order at once. Unless there's anything else?"

I shrug. "Nothing from my end. Is there anything you think I need to know about?"

"Some of the Effigies have begun sparring with the more aggressive Lanterns. Lantern Ragnar has things under control, but it seems that there might be competition between your organisations as they expand."

I shrug. "We're both drawing from a limited recruit pool. Not everyone can both use an orange ring and not be driven mad by it, and not everyone is going to want to be turned into an effigy of themselves. We already assign Lanterns to roles based on how they think rather than the fact that they're Lanterns. Incorporating another form of heavy combatant into our order of battle isn't going to be that hard."

"And the NEMO Council?"

"Presumably, Jevek Jos Jar gets the third Controller seat, but that's up to them. We can think about there being a dedicated Effigy seat once there are a few more of them."

"That would give us an even number."

"If the vote is ever four to four we should probably rethink the proposal anyway. If you're asking what I think we should do if it was a problem, then I suppose giving a seat to an independent Controller would be the thing to do."

"You could give up yours. The Darkstars have one while the Orange Lantern Corps effectively has three. Vril Dox himself usually casts three votes."

"And virtually all decisions are unanimous anyway. Is this a matter of pride, or is it actually a problem?"

He takes a moment to think hard about that one.

"Both, if I'm honest. I know that the Darkstars weren't capable of holding the line. I know that my hope that our actions would promote some sort of unity amongst the Reach's neighbours was entirely unrealistic. But a lot of Darkstars have died attempting to achieve that thankless task."

"And a lot of our initial intake were Darkstars. In.. fact, I think a majority of our squad leaders are former Darkstars. Ring?"

"Former Darkstars account for forty five percent of non-commissioned officer positions in the Orange Lantern Corps."

"
Ah. Guess we've had some promotions."

"Substantial increase in recruitment from member world militaries. Lower peak output balanced by superior discipline and combat theatre awareness."


"That's news to you?"

"General recruitment is Clarissi Dox's responsibility. But… Yeah, okay. I don't object in principle to losing my seat if that actually makes things easier." He nods. "Have you..? Given any thought to what you want to do after the war?"

"After-?" His eye widen, and then he blinks. "Retire probably, if I'm still alive."

"And the Darkstar organisation?"

"Why? What are you going to do?"

"I'm not sure. Pick the next most vile thing in the galaxy and switch to fighting that? Switch to the Sector system? We'll have to see who's left when it happens, because a lot of Orange Lanterns are only with the Corps to fight the Reach and I don't want to assume commitment beyond that. Or they'll switch to reconstruction, which will probably take the rest of their natural lives. And unlike the Green Lantern Corps we don't replace one for one."

"The next most vile? Apokolips?"

"Apokolips requires special skills most Lanterns probably won't be able to learn. I was thinking Spider Guild."

"Mm." He nods. "That's certainly worthwhile. I suppose that the Darkstars might work as a NEMO-wide policing and intelligence agency. We're effectively doing that now."

"That's certainly worthwhile as well. I do want this power bloc to outlast the war." He nods, more in acknowledgement than agreement. "Well." I stand, offering him my hand. "Thank you for your assistance."

"Think nothing of it." He shakes my hand, then something appears to occur to him. "Will I be getting reports from the team?"

"Ah… Yes? Perhaps not immediately, as it's hard to guarantee transmissions against Earth technology, but certainly once they get back. It shouldn't affect anything here, but I suppose it's worth reading for their performance reviews if nothing else."

"Ah." He nods, apparently satisfied. "Then I hope that your investigation is successful. Goodbye, Illustres."
 
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, it's entirely possible that it's actually coming from Grayven."
It would make sense.

He knows that eventually his dad is going to come for him and he may have also heard about forces from Earth defeating him, so he may want them for the future.
Apokolips requires special skills most Lanterns probably won't be able to learn. I was thinking Spider Guild."
I was honestly thinking the Dominators.

They are basically a mini-Reach.
 
31st July 2013
21:02 GMT


I smile as Director Jeddigar walks into the room. He's.. not wearing his usual suit-. "Director, I hope that I didn't wake you."

"I wouldn't worry about it." He sits down opposite me. "I've been sleeping much better since we started pushing the Reach back. I think I owe you a few hours."
I would imagine he was running on very short sleep until the Orange Lanterns took the field. And possibly unsafe amounts of stimulants. At least now he isn't having to send secret agents into open combat with Scarabs.

"Well, thank you, but this isn't urgent. It could have waited."

He shrugs. "I'm awake now. What is it that you want?"
And like he said, he can spare you the time in return for what you did.

"I want to borrow a Darkstar investigation team for action on Earth. I'm not an investigator, and the people I would usually go to may be compromised. I intend to use them for… Perhaps two months? And since the only human in the Darkstars is-"

"Your lover."

"-Jade-. Yes. Ah. Look. I realise-."
It does look a little improper from the outside. From some angles, anyway.

"You realise that I assumed that you were asking for a favour when I gave her a position, but your culture frowns upon that sort of 'horse trading' and she does actually have the skills required for the job. And that you are actually asking for a favour now -Earth not being part of NEMO- but that while it is convenient for you she really is the best person to send?"
Canny assessment. You don't get to be the commander of an intelligence agency like the Darkstars by being a fool, after all.

"That... Mostly. Earth has a great deal of Apokoliptian technology and while I've been assuming that the people still using it are sourcing it either directly or indirectly from Apokolips, it's entirely possible that it's actually coming from Grayven."

He raises his eyebrows. "Is it coming from Grayven?"
...Now that you ask the question, it becomes clear that was a possibility everyone overlooked...

"Probably not. But humans are far more compatible with New God technology than most species, so it would actually make sense for him to try something like that."

"May our enemies ever live down to our hopes for them."
And never meet your highest expectations.

"It would be nice. So, is that a problem?"

"No, I'm happy to sign off on that-. I assume that she'd rather take her current squad?"
It'd save her having to work with strangers. And Earth Bullshit™... Well.

"Unless there's someone you think is particularly suited to it, yes."

"No, I try to avoid employing insane people as Darkstars." He smiles ruefully, and I mirror his expression. I suppose it is hard to see what sort of person would flourish on Earth. "But I imagine that they'll need time to adjust. You'll make the practical arrangements?"
Transporting them to Earth. I suspect OL can manage that easily enough. A dropship with Honden-warding, perhaps, if he's in a rush, or standard Ring FTL if he's not.

"There are so many investigations going on that no one will be surprised by me turning up with a squad. I've already expanded the trade post Manga Khan built… Expanding it a little more won't take more than a few minutes."

He smiles, giving his head a small shake. "I'm not quite used to how much you outperform other Lanterns. That should be adequate. I'll draft the order at once. Unless there's anything else?"
Xor should be demonstrating similar levels of improvement, with his Enlightenment. The biggest difference being relative level of practical experience...

I shrug. "Nothing from my end. Is there anything you think I need to know about?"

"Some of the Effigies have begun sparring with the more aggressive Lanterns. Lantern Ragnar has things under control, but it seems that there might be competition between your organisations as they expand."
As long as they can st it aside in combat, the byplay'll be ignored.

I shrug. "We're both drawing from a limited recruit pool. Not everyone can both use an orange ring and not be driven mad by it, and not everyone is going to want to be turned into an effigy of themselves. We already assign Lanterns to roles based on how they think rather than the fact that they're Lanterns. Incorporating another form of heavy combatant into our order of battle isn't going to be that hard."
And you'd expect that most of them can be professional enough to limit rivalries in the field to kill-counting in battles.

"And the NEMO Council?"

"Presumably, Jevek Jos Jar gets the third Controller seat, but that's up to them. We can think about there being a dedicated Effigy seat once there are a few more of them."
Which will probably require a thousand-plus active operatives, I expect.

"That would give us an even number."

"If the vote is ever four to four we should probably rethink the proposal anyway. If you're asking what I think we should do if it was a problem, then I suppose giving a seat to an independent Controller would be the thing to do."
True, if the vote is that evenly split, then there definitely needs to be some consideration put in.

"You could give up yours. The Darkstars have one while the Orange Lantern Corps effectively has three. Vril Dox himself usually casts three votes."

"And virtually all decisions are unanimous anyway. Is this a matter of pride, or is it actually a problem?"

He takes a moment to think hard about that one.
It's likely a case of self-evaluation. Is he really that vexed by the ratio of representation amongst their leadership?

"Both, if I'm honest. I know that the Darkstars weren't capable of holding the line. I know that my hope that our actions would promote some sort of unity amongst the Reach's neighbours was entirely unrealistic. But a lot of Darkstars have died attempting to achieve that thankless task."
And they'll be remembered for it. But the war has changed, and the needs and duties of the parties involved have to change with it.

"And a lot of our initial intake were Darkstars. In.. fact, I think a majority of our squad leaders are former Darkstars. Ring?"

"Former Darkstars account for forty five percent of non-commissioned officer positions in the Orange Lantern Corps."
With a good chunk of the commissioned ones too, I would warrant, especially those coming up from the ranks.

"Ah. Guess we've had some promotions."

"Substantial increase in recruitment from member world militaries. Lower peak output balanced by superior discipline and combat theatre awareness."
In other words, they're getting more Lanterns, but each is less potent than before, and compensating with quantity over quality.

"That's news to you?"

"General recruitment is Clarissi Dox's responsibility. But… Yeah, okay. I don't object in principle to losing my seat if that actually makes things easier." He nods. "Have you..? Given any thought to what you want to do after the war?"
That is OL's way, really. If it's needed to minimise conflict, it's done.

"After-?" His eye widen, and then he blinks. "Retire probably, if I'm still alive."

"And the Darkstar organisation?"

"Why? What are you going to do?"
OL's in the Lantern business for life, and he intends to be around for a long time to come.

"I'm not sure. Pick the next most vile thing in the galaxy and switch to fighting that? Switch to the Sector system? We'll have to see who's left when it happens, because a lot of Orange Lanterns are only with the Corps to fight the Reach and I don't want to assume commitment beyond that. Or they'll switch to reconstruction, which will probably take the rest of their natural lives. And unlike the Green Lantern Corps we don't replace one for one."
Which means there could be more than three thousand, six hundred Oranges out there. Given the scale of the conflict and their decreasing potency, I'd bet it's closer to five or six thousand?

"The next most vile? Apokolips?"

"Apokolips requires special skills most Lanterns probably won't be able to learn. I was thinking Spider Guild."
Except for the one hive OL's personally vetted, anyway.

"Mm." He nods. "That's certainly worthwhile. I suppose that the Darkstars might work as a NEMO-wide policing and intelligence agency. We're effectively doing that now."

"That's certainly worthwhile as well. I do want this power block to outlast the war." He nods, more in acknowledgement than agreement. "Well." I stand, offering him my hand. "Thank you for your assistance."
An effective little backroom meeting. And all it cost was an hour of the gent's sleep schedule.

"Think nothing of it." He shakes my hand, then something appears to occur to him. "Will I be getting reports from the team?"

"Ah… Yes? Perhaps not immediately, as it's hard to guarantee transmissions against Earth technology, but certainly once they get back. It shouldn't affect anything here, but I suppose it's worth reading for their performance reviews if nothing else."

"Ah." He nods, apparently satisfied. "Then I hope that your investigation is successful. Goodbye, Illustres."
I expect he'll have to temper his sense of scepticism in anticipation.

So, the official side of the arrangement is all sorted, once the Director taps out a note concerning the orders. And then we get to see Jade make a pleasant homecoming with her team in tow. Wonder how many of them actually believe any stories they've heard about Earth? I bet it has quite the aura of disbelief going on amongst those who hear the impossible tales.
 
I think the Spider Guild is more widespread.
With the Spider Guild, a non-military solution may be feasible. Perhaps lean on the history of Paul's homeland, and try a political marriage to secure an alliance? That would provide a direct "in" for potential reform efforts. I'm sure Jade would understand how important that was to improving galactic conditions.
 
Storm warnings today. Everything is alright by your side of the Channel Zoat ?
No, but Rule 8.

Oh, you mean the rain. That's fine. We've been a soggy island since before the Romans. We're used to it.
Thank you, corrected.
With the Spider Guild, a non-military solution may be feasible. Perhaps lean on the history of Paul's homeland, and try a political marriage to secure an alliance? That would provide a direct "in" for potential reform efforts. I'm sure Jade would understand how important that was to improving galactic conditions.
Are you from Themyscira?
 
I was referring to the wind. I have no doubt Britain like Brittany is used to the rain ;-p
We have a breed of short abhumans with large feet. They're short so that the wind doesn't blow them over and they have big feet so that they don't sink in the swamplands of their home. We call them 'Norfolk folk'.
 
With the Spider Guild, a non-military solution may be feasible. Perhaps lean on the history of Paul's homeland, and try a political marriage to secure an alliance? That would provide a direct "in" for potential reform efforts. I'm sure Jade would understand how important that was to improving galactic conditions.
The Spider Guild are giant spiders that eat people because they're spiders.

I doubt it.
 
The Spider Guild eat people because they can. I'm fairly sure it's been established that they are advanced enought to vat-grow their food if they wanted or eat non-sentient species instead. But apparently they'd rather attack and eat stuff that screams and tries to fight back.
 
The Spider Guild are giant spiders that eat people because they're spiders.

I doubt it.
The Spider Guild eat people because they can. I'm fairly sure it's been established that they are advanced enought to vat-grow their food if they wanted or eat non-sentient species instead. But apparently they'd rather attack and eat stuff that screams and tries to fight back.
Princess's Hive seems to be investing gengineering cycles towards eliminating that predisposition. Nothing too eager, and they've yet to include it into the general spawn pool, but Princess's Hive has a very thorough fear of OL.

I find the best comparison for that fear to be Evangelion: absolutely all varieties of resources are going towards the goal of surviving Third Impact OL, with multiple streams of thought on how that survival should take shape. Spider Instrumentality, Sea Of Spider-Tang, Adaptation Of The Spider-Soul, Devouring Of The Orange God, etc.
 

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