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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Pruning (part 9) New
14th September 2013
14:21 GMT


Queen Hyathis closes her eyes and tilts her head back, extruding additional leaves from her back as the local sun shines down on her. The lizarkon representatives are clearly a little uncomfortable about the situation, but that's hardly surprising; they may have thrown in with her to get out from under the thanagarians-. The Imperial thanagarians, but they don't know her and have no real connection to her beyond 'fuck those guys'.

The fact that the Antares thanagarians are being polite and friendly appears to be throwing them off a little as well. But, they don't seem to be unhappy with whatever negotiations just finished, and that's happier that they were before.

"Do you approve, Orange Lantern? I doubt that the High Mor ever spoke to a lizarkon."

"I don't doubt that you're closer to what I'd want in a ruler for this region of space than he is. I'm just not prepared to inflict the quantity of death that would be required to get you that office."

"Did you know that I've never been at peace before?"

"No. I thought that you were… A sort of specialised over-consciousness which emerged from Alstair's plant life."

"I am, sort of. But I emerged into full awareness after my predecessor was killed during the opening stage of the war. Only one of us at a time…"

"We have the same system on Earth. The Green gets only one champion at a time."

"Yes, but your champion doesn't rule your world. I-." She looks down at the lizarkon servant kneeling next to her, carrying a drinks tray. "Stand up, woman!" The lizarkon cautiously raises her eyes, clearly not quite believing what she's been told. "We don't do that on Alstair. I know that my own people are loyal to me, and from one of your kind it just feels disingenuous."

The lizarkon hesitantly stands, and Hyathis takes a glass of… Water, from the tray.

Hythis nods to her. "Thank you." She extrudes roots from her fingertips and begins drinking. "So, if you're not here to conduct a review, what is it that you want?"

"It's only been a few days. I'm glad that you made a prompt start, but I wouldn't learn much by checking up on things now."

"Mm, true."

"But relating to that, are you having any non-military problems that I can help you with?"

"No, everything's well in hand. This is an eventuality I've planned and prepared for. Actually, I was hoping to get a few more planets, but then you appeared and I felt that I was pushing my luck."

"Yes. I meant… Thanagar mostly recruited male lizarkons for their auxiliaries."

"They also employ females in supporting roles, and anyway it's not a large problem. Unlike your species, the lizarkons don't have much in the way of sexual desire outside of mating season. We have enough to maintain the population, even if a proportion of the males will have to wear nose plugs every so often."

"Thanagar doesn't keep track of populations in their undercities. Getting a few thousand females out-."

She frowns at me. "Are you trying to break your own treaty, or is this some sort of test?"

"You're going to spend decades solidifying your grip on your new acquisitions. I think I can mostly trust you to do that in a non-evil way."

"Thank you."

"But -assuming that Thanagar trust me at my word- they've now got extra ships to play with and a political need to reassert their dominance. So I'm putting together a defensive alliance-"

"Which I can't join-"

"-which-."

"-because of the antagonism clause in the treaty. Though that does lend credence to your claim that you've been making things up as you go."

"I assure you, that claim was entirely true."

"Then what do you want me to do?"

"You aren't banned from gathering intelligence and sharing it, just from active sabotage. You aren't banned from trading with Thanagar's enemies, even at generous terms. And you don't have to continue to supply them with Nth metal."

"I was doing that in an effort to reduce tensions in the long term."

"How long is long?"

"Fifty years or so. Two changes of High Mor. Perhaps three. They'll still consider me their enemy, but they'll have larger concerns." She frowns. "How long does your species live?"

"Normal male humans can live about a hundred and fifteen years in ideal conditions, but eighty to ninety years is more normal. And then you've got Vandal Savage, who is about fifty thousand years old, so there's nothing special about our current lifespan, it's just a wear and tear thing." I clench my left fist and make myself glow orange. "If I can't enforce the treaty, it's not going to be because I got too old."

"I assume that this anti-Thanagarian alliance don't use plants, do they?"

"I'm afraid that very few species do, though I should point out that I've only spoken to one of the species I hope will be a major participant."

"How many to go?"

"Two, and a number of minor worlds. Green Lantern Guarn is making a start on those, but there are a lot of them."

"Nnnnnmmm." She considers for a moment. "Selling raw materials might be awkward, at the moment. We have a great deal of building to do as we transition to a peacetime economy and build infrastructure on my new acquisitions."

"You've got three worlds to disarm, and they have industrial capacity that's going begging. It doesn't even have to be a financial exchange. You can exchange raw materials for specialist teachers and engineers that you don't have."

"That's true. Alright, tell them to send trade envoys to Alstair, and I'll discuss specifics with them. Anything else? I'm sure you're busy."

"How have negotiations gone with Vulcan?"

"Quite well, we're getting married."

"Huh?"

She smiles, and… Honestly looks a little self-conscious. "I couldn't marry one of my own subjects, could I? They're basically part of me."

"Right..?"

"And I know that by human standards he's not much to look at, but to my spiritual senses he stands out as a tower of hard work, discipline and strength. I'm a little like the lizarkons in that regard; I didn't really have an interest until… Mm."

"Um. Good for you?"

"Do you think you could bring some of his relatives to Alstair for the ceremony?"

"It's… Not impossible. I'll-. I'll ask around. Um. Okay. Thank you for your time, but I've got people to see…"

"Of course. Be off with you. Let me know how it goes."

Of all the things I wasn't expecting today…
 
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[...] but to my spiritual senses he stands out as a tower of hard work, discipline and strength.
"And to my spiritual senses you stand out as a large orange snake--"

"Of course."

"but also as a man furiously trying to repair a machine that keeps trying to blow itself up."

"I... hmm. I suppose that's not inaccurate."
 
14th September 2013
14:21 GMT


Queen Hyathis closes her eyes and tilts her head back, extruding additional leaves from her back as the local sun shines down on her. The lizarkon representatives are clearly a little uncomfortable about the situation, but that's hardly surprising; they may have thrown in with her to get out from under the thanagarians-. The Imperial thanagarians, but they don't know her and have no real connection to her beyond 'fuck those guys'.
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' may not always be reliable (it usually turns out to be 'the enemy of my enemy is my enemy too') but in this case, they can get along in the sentiment of 'fuck those guys'.

The fact that the Antares thanagarians are being polite and friendly appears to be throwing them off a little as well. But, they don't seem to be unhappy with whatever negotiations just finished, and that's happier that they were before.

"Do you approve, Orange Lantern? I doubt that the High Mor ever spoke to a lizarkon."
To be fair, I suspect the High Mor didn't really consider them to be sapient, merely clever animals talented at copying 'real people'... 😒

"I don't doubt that you're closer to what I'd want in a ruler for this region of space than he is. I'm just not prepared to inflict the quantity of death that would be required to get you that office."

"Did you know that I've never been at peace before?"
'At peace' personally, or as a nation?

"No. I thought that you were… A sort of specialised over-consciousness which emerged from Alstair's plant life."

"I am, sort of. But I emerged into full awareness after my predecessor was killed during the opening stage of the war. Only one of us at a time…"

"We have the same system on Earth. The Green gets only one champion at a time."
The Parliament of the Green on the other hand...

"Yes, but your champion doesn't rule your world. I-." She looks down at the lizarkon servant kneeling next to her, carrying a drinks tray. "Stand up, woman!" The lizarkon cautiously raises her eyes, clearly not quite believing what she's been told. "We don't do that on Alstair. I know that my own people are loyal to me, and from one of your kind it just feels disingenuous."
A very egalitarian display. One can hope she truly believes that.

The lizarkon hesitantly stands, and Hyathis takes a glass of… Water, from the tray.

Hythis nods to her. "Thank you." She extrudes roots from her fingertips and begins drinking. "So, if you're not here to conduct a review, what is it that you want?"
I mean, she is a plant, water is better for her than anything else. It might well be seasoned with a bit of plant food, even.

"It's only been a few days. I'm glad that you made a prompt start, but I wouldn't learn much by checking up on things now."

"Mm, true."
At this point, it's a polite hello and update on things.

"But relating to that, are you having any non-military problems that I can help you with?"

"No, everything's well in hand. This is an eventuality I've planned and prepared for. Actually, I was hoping to get a few more planets, but then you appeared and I felt that I was pushing my luck."
Because of course she did. The Blades didn't pull out of Vega on a whim, after all.

"Yes. I meant… Thanagar mostly recruited male lizarkons for their auxiliaries."

"They also employ females in supporting roles, and anyway it's not a large problem. Unlike your species, the lizarkons don't have much in the way of sexual desire outside of mating season. We have enough to maintain the population, even if a proportion of the males will have to wear nose plugs every so often."
And presumably after a couple of generations... As long as they don't unwittingly go for a close relative, they should be all right.

"Thanagar doesn't keep track of populations in their undercities. Getting a few thousand females out-."

She frowns at me. "Are you trying to break your own treaty, or is this some sort of test?"
Can't it be both, as well as OL being OL?

"You're going to spend decades solidifying your grip on your new acquisitions. I think I can mostly trust you to do that in a non-evil way."

"Thank you."
Of course, if he finds out you've not been keeping your nose clean...

"But -assuming that Thanagar trust me at my word- they've now got extra ships to play with and a political need to reassert their dominance. So I'm putting together a defensive alliance-"

"Which I can't join-"
...I mean, OL wouldn't be here if he didn't have ideas about that...

"-which-."

"-because of the antagonism clause in the treaty. Though that does lend credence to your claim that you've been making things up as you go."
Sadly, OL does fly by the seat of his pants a lot of the time.

"I assure you, that claim was entirely true."

"Then what do you want me to do?"
Listen, and be illuminated, o radiant flower of Alstair...

"You aren't banned from gathering intelligence and sharing it, just from active sabotage. You aren't banned from trading with Thanagar's enemies, even at generous terms. And you don't have to continue to supply them with Nth metal."

"I was doing that in an effort to reduce tensions in the long term."
And to keep on Vulcan's good side, since he made a deal and he wants it kept.

"How long is long?"

"Fifty years or so. Two changes of High Mor. Perhaps three. They'll still consider me their enemy, but they'll have larger concerns." She frowns. "How long does your species live?"
The joy of being very long-lived but with shorter-lived enemies. You can literally outlive those you antagonised.

"Normal male humans can live about a hundred and fifteen years in ideal conditions, but eighty to ninety years is more normal. And then you've got Vandal Savage, who is about fifty thousands years old, so there's nothing special about our current lifespan, it's just a wear and tear thing." I clench my left fist and make myself glow orange. "If I can't enforce the treaty, it's not going to be because I got too old."
We readers know he's got at least a thousand or more years ahead of him yet. By which time he'll have transcended his human limitations anyway...

"I assume that this anti-Thanagarian alliance don't use plants, do they?"

"I'm afraid that very few species do, though I should point out that I've only spoken to one of the species I hope will be a major participant."
Heck, she might well know them already, if OL dropped their name.

"How many to go?"

"Two, and a number of minor worlds. Green Lantern Guarn is making a start on those, but there are a lot of them."
That might not sound impressive, but small things can grow rapidly.

"Nnnnnmmm." She considers for a moment. "Selling raw materials might be awkward, at the moment. We have a great deal of building to do as we transition to a peacetime economy and build infrastructure on my new acquisitions."

"You've got three worlds to disarm, and they have industrial capacity that's going begging. It doesn't even have to be a financial exchange. You can exchange raw materials for specialist teachers and engineers that you don't have."
I wonder if she even thought of that herself. Plant-based technology, so she might not realise they can convert systems without the equivalent of uprooting and replanting.

"That's true. Alright, tell them to send trade envoys to Alstair, and I'll discuss specifics with them. Anything else? I'm sure you're busy."

"How have negotiations gone with Vulcan?"

"Quite well, we're getting married."
Very well indeed, by the sound of it.

"Huh?"

She smiles, and… Honestly looks a little self-conscious. "I couldn't marry one of my own subjects, could I? They're basically part of me."
Then again, you don't exactly need anyone to reproduce with. So this is an intellectual and emotional connection, not a biological one.

"Right..?"

"And I know that by human standards he's not much to look at, but to my spiritual senses he stands out as a tower of hard work, discipline and strength. I'm a little like the lizarkons in that regard; I didn't really have an interest until… Mm."
Hey, when you 'Zing', you 'ZING'. No controlling it...

"Um. Good for you?"

"Do you think you could bring some of his relatives to Alstair for the ceremony?"
That will be fascinating to see. Hyathis rubbing shoulders with the Roman pantheon...

"It's… Not impossible. I'll-. I'll ask around. Um. Okay. Thank you for your time, but I've got people to see…"

"Of course. Be off with you. Let me know how it goes."

Of all the things I wasn't expecting today…
It can't be the weirdest day you've ever had, though.

Well, that's a turn-up for the books. Wonder how Vulcan plans to handle the matter of Venus, or has already sorted that out by divorcing her, following Heph's lead? Wonder if she'd turn up at the wedding screaming at 'that alien hussy' or totally ship it? And regardless, this marriage does encourage him to stick around for her sake...
EDIT: Okay, Venus won't be an impediment, it seems. It'll be fun to see if she's a shipper-on-deck, then. 😍
 
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Wrong pantheon.

Vulcan is Roman, and was happy with his wife who was more of a cross between Aphrodite and Athena then a direct counterpart of Aphrodite.


Sorry, nope. If you're going to do this you're going to take the time to actually look this up or I'm going to do it for you. The only time the Roman goddess Venus has been mentioned is here:

She pumps and the flames grow brighter and hotter. Hephaestus' smile broadens in satisfaction. I note that he's not wearing protective gloves or a mask. "This hammer is called 'Flame Drinker'. Not much of a weapon, but it's great for transferring heat." His smile dims. "Vulcan doesn't know how good he has it. Did you know that unlike Ares, Mars is god of agriculture? And at least he had the decency to marry Venus. Sure, he's not all that bright and he could stand to wash more, but at least he shows a polite interest."

Venus is married to Mars in this story. Also, the Roman gods are barely mentioned in canonical DC (let alone this timeline) and in actual mythology the Romans just adopted the stories that Venus was an unfaithful wife, and attributed Mount Etna's volcanic activity to Vulcan angrily hammering his forge whenever she cheated. So your entire post was based on asbolutely nothing from any source and was wrong at every point.
 
Hythis nods to her. "Thank you

"Hyathis"

Thanagar trust me at my word-

"trusts"

And then you've got Vandal Savage, who is about fifty thousand years old, so there's nothing special about our current lifespan, it's just a wear and tear thing."

I remember a comic where a guy that has lived since the Ice Age dies in modern times and when Death comes to take him, he tries to brag about how long he's lived, only for her to say that he got a single life like everyone else.

He's already married to Venus.

And?

They could have gotten divorced in recent millenia, or if their relationship was similar to that of Heph and Aphrodite, then I don't think he'd care that much about Venus.

So your entire post was based on asbolutely nothing from any source and was wrong at every point.

Basically a common Vaermina post.
 
"Do you think you could bring some of his relatives to Alstair for the ceremony?"

"It's… Not impossible. I'll-. I'll ask around. Um. Okay. Thank you for your time, but I've got people to see…"
Would have thought he would welcome doing some wedding planning work after his recent killing-spree.
 

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