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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

"I am not sure that I want to go back to Tamaran. The Citadel will probably just-."

"Oh, don't worry about them. I killed most of them. Tamaran is actually rebuilding now."

"Oh. Then I will be happy to return home."
Lol every time someone new gets exposed to OL's sheer insanity. "Oh I already liberated your planet and genocided your oppressors like a year or two ago, you'll be fine."
 
What happened to Alan's original ring after he swapped over to Kalmin's blue ring and lantern? Can someone check to see if it has the yellow weakness, and if so, is it somehow infested with some of this yellow fear crystal material?
He never swapped rings. Kalmin made a blue lantern that connected to his old ring and basically reinstalled an AI, database etc while swapping it to Blue.
 
"On the twenty fifth of November we had another talk with the other people researching the subject. John managed to make contact with a Lord of Chaos who was more insane than malevolent and got a much better idea of how they work from him. Essentially, they start as mortal magic users and connect themselves to another Plane of existence. That link replaces the one most people have to the universe around them, granting them far more raw power but also granting them signature weaknesses. Klarion's link was moderated through Teekl. When I stole her, he was forced to cut himself off from the Plane of Chaos in order to stay here. And find another source of magic power. That told us that Klarion was vulnerable to relatively conventional attack. It also told us how to replicate the process."

"
On the sixth of November I began actively pursuing the Ace of Winchesters, with the aim of furthering my understanding of arcane weapons. On the tenth, I purchased it. I imagine that you've all read my report on the incident, so I won't go into it. On the eleventh, I recovered the Star Sapphire from the Moon."
December; that poor old lady died in December.

"Under English law, Nabu was not a person. Under the 'Foul Witchcraft and Maleficent Practices Act' of fifteen ninety eight he would be defined as a 'baleful and malevolent spirit or spectre', and guilty of 'using unnatural magics to influence the minds of good Christian men to act contrary to their nature'. Not only can I not be prosecuted for killing him, the Church of England owes me either twenty crowns, or an acre of good grazing land and seven Sheep. And even if he were a person, he used lethal force to resist a legitimate arrest. I doubt that you would get a conviction, and that's if you were stupid enough to take it to trial."
🤣

He should have asked for this to be enforced, just for the looks on faces. Alas, secrecy.
 
Psychoprompt (part 28) New
30th April 2258
22:02 G.M.T. -5

"But that doesn't make any sense."

Kelsey's… Actually holding my hand. I don't think… Anyone's held my hand since my grandparents decided that I could be trusted to walk by myself.

"Does it?"

"Ah-. What doesn't make sense?"

She glances up at me for a moment to make sure that I'm paying attention, and then returns her focus to the path in front of us. "So if the machines can't get solar power, and it's in the future so the can't use fossil fuels, why don't they use nuclear fission? Is it supposed to be far enough in the future that they've used up all of Earth's fissionables?"

"Ah… Do you want me to spoil the next film?"

"I don't know. Are we going to see the next film?"

"I've found copies of all four films." Which surprised me. Apparently they made a fourth at some point? I'm not sure why. I mean, I want to assume the best of the creators but I'm pretty sure that the story ended after film 3 and given the time delay it whiffs a little of a low effort cash in on former glory.

She glances up at me again, smiling. "That wasn't what I meant."

"Ah, well, I like the first two, and I've never seen the third one. But I…" I sigh. "When I was very young my mother made a point of ensuring that I understood that just because I find something interesting, that doesn't mean that other people do. So if you want to see something else, or do something else… I don't want to seem like I'm leaning on you to watch a film series you're not particularly interested in."

She… Leans into me. "I meant, do you want to go on another date?"

"Yes, absolutely. And… If you want to pick the activity-."

"I'd like to see the second one."

"Ah…"

"Is it.. not good..?"

"Ah, no, no, it's… Good..?"

"Are you sure?"

"Ah… I'm not sure if a film with a sex scene in it is second date material..?" I shrug awkwardly.

She snorts. "Really?"

"Um."

"I think I'll survive."

"Okay then." … "So, spoilers or not?"

"Is power generations a big part of the story, or is it just the background?"

"It… Comes up at one point, but I suppose it's mostly background. While it is quite a long time since the A.I.'s took over, it's never explicitly stated that other forms of energy aren't available. Even if they had used up all the fissionables, there's still geothermal."

"Right. And there's no way they could just be feeding liquidised human to other humans. There'd be energy loss each generation."

"Ah. No, you see, you're making a dangerous assumption there."

"I am?"

"Yes. I didn't.. spot it myself either. But if the conceit of the film is that we're living in a virtual environment, how do you know what real physics are? Your school just taught you the system's basic physics engine. You won't experience real physics until you leave the matrix, so for all you know the machines run on chi or mana or something."

"Huh…"

"Or entropy might not be real at all, just another sign of the depressive tendency inherent in the human mind."

"Or psychic 'energy'."

"Or anything. Or the human brain could be the most cost-effective regulator system for something."

"But why wouldn't they just go into space..? Or is.. space not real either?"

"Maybe they did, and a few are sticking around because it takes a long time to build infrastructure. Or they just really hate humans and sticking around is the whole point."

"But what do you think?"

"I think the writers didn't think about it too hard."

She exhales sharply through her nose in agreement. "So when's a good night for you?"

"Mayan's going to need me to proofread her work tomorrow… Monday?"

"I can do Monday. What exactly are you and.. Mayan..? Doing?"

"Journalism. Or if you want to know what our personal relationship is, we're friends. Minbari don't date outside of their species, and I've accepted that."

"Did you ask?"

"The subject came up, and she was polite but direct. Oh, but I… Wanted to ask…"

"Mm?"

"This isn't a conflict of interest for you, is it?"

"What do you mean?"

"Well, I know that I… Am or was the subject of a Psi Corp2 investigation, and you're a Psi Cop…"

Her hand tightens, and her skin chills. "You… Knew about that?"

"Yes, of course. You were in that advert a few years ago, when you were a cadet."

"I was in the background!"

"You had a line."

She cringes slightly, which… Given the advert, is pretty fair. But at least her hand starts going back to its normal temperature. "How did you even see that!?"

"I looked up stuff on Psi Corps, because it's such a new thing for me. The website had all of their old adverts archived."

"Ah… Unless my boss has a change of heart, you're not being investigated. Unless you know where Jason Ironheart is, and I don't think-."

"He was on Babylon Five last time I saw him. I gave him a lift, since I was heading that way?"

She stops, pulling her hand free as she turns to face me. "Are you serious?"

"Yes? Is..? That a problem?"

"He's wanted for murder and espionage."

"…oh."

"You didn't know that?"

"I know it now."

"Seriou-? It was all over the news."

"I don't watch the news much." I shrug awkwardly. "It keeps referencing things I've never heard of."

"What exactly happened?"

"He… Walked up to me, said he'd heard of me from Psi Corps internal gossip and asked if I could give him a lift. I figured, okay, getting on the good side of someone in Psi Corps would be a good idea after the mess of my last interview…" I shrug. "He said something about travelling on, and that was over a week ago…"

"Damn it."

"I didn't know he was a murderer at the time, I thought he was just bumming a free ride."

"Right, I need to report that right now." She steps away from me, towards the road. "Taxi!"

Call taxi.

"So..?"

She looks back. "So?"

"Are we still on for Monday..?"

"I don't know! I think dating an Accessory After The Fact might be a conflict of interest!"

"But can you let me know?"

"I-." She exhales heavily as a taxi pulls up. "Yes, I'll let you know."

30th April 2258
22:28 G.M.T. -5
Kelsey

"You see?" Bester smiles smugly at me, and I can barely keep from rolling my eyes. "I told you it was worthwhile."
 
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Kelsey's… Actually holding my hand. I don't think… Anyone's held my hand since my grandparents decided that I could be trusted to walk by myself.
Someone should probably tell Mr Zoat that this is something a member of the Psi-Corp absolutely would not do because skin contact makes it almost impossible not to read someone's mind.

Like, that's a major plot point and everything.
 
You know, they actually did handle the aliens. Aspect of The Matrix at 1 point, basically between taking over the Earth. And before neo, there was some point where aliens literally invaded, and they kind of trained up pilots to take the alien ships out, it just never comes up. Cause it happened before neo.
 
30th April 2258
22:02 G.M.T. -5


"But that doesn't make any sense."

Kelsey's… Actually holding my hand. I don't think… Anyone's held my hand since my grandparents decided that I could be trusted to walk by myself.
Ah, amazing how a tiny amount of physical interaction can slide right under someone's suitably paranoid defences. Not that Matthew Underwood seems nearly paranoid enough given what he's learned of Earth in the last year.

"Does it?"

"Ah-. What doesn't make sense?"
The movie? Oh, people have been saying that for years. Sadly, the amazing action, visual effects and tight black leather tends to turn the thinky part of the brain off for most people.

She glances up at me for a moment to make sure that I'm paying attention, and then returns her focus to the path in front of us. "So if the machines can't get solar power, and it's in the future so the can't use fossil fuels, why don't they use nuclear fission? Is it supposed to be far enough in the future that they've used up all of Earth's fissionables?"
Ah, the fundamental confusion of the series. From what I remember, the captured humans were meant to be some sort of organic data processing the Machines used. But the test audiences found that confusing so the producers ordered the plot be made simpler.

"Ah… Do you want me to spoil the next film?"

"I don't know. Are we going to see the next film?"
'Reloaded' is probably the best of the trilogy, especially in terms of action.

"I've found copies of all four films." Which surprised me. Apparently they made a fourth at some point? I'm not sure why. I mean, I want to assume the best of the creators but I'm pretty sure that the story ended after film 3 and given the time delay it whiffs a little of a low effort cash in on former glory.
Let's not speak of 'Resurrections', 'twas a silly idea.

She glances up at me again, smiling. "That wasn't what I meant."

"Ah, well, I like the first two, and I've never seen the third one. But I…" I sigh. "When I was very young my mother made a point of ensuring that I understood that just because I find something interesting, that doesn't mean that other people do. So if you want to see something else, or do something else… I don't want to seem like I'm leaning on you to watch a film series you're not particularly interested in."
And as a corollary: "I might not be interested in what someone else likes, but it's not my place to say they shouldn't like it." Something which a lot of loud people on the internet seem to forget... 😒

She… Leans into me. "I meant, do you want to go on another date?"

"Yes, absolutely. And… If you want to pick the activity-."
Oh, brother, he is caught, hook, line and sinker.

"I'd like to see the second one."

"Ah…"

"Is it.. not good..?"
Honestly passable. Not the wow-factor of the first, but...

"Ah, no, no, it's… Good..?"

"Are you sure?"
Again, if she's not into the first one, the second may not hit either, especially some of the themes...

"Ah… I'm not sure if a film with a sex scene in it is second date material..?" I shrug awkwardly.

She snorts. "Really?"
Oh yeah, the love scene between Neo and Trinity... And the giant 'dance' party in Zion.

"Um."

"I think I'll survive."
Good, because the action scenes would make her wish she had that level of psychic powers.

"Okay then." … "So, spoilers or not?"

"Is power generations a big part of the story, or is it just the background?"
Ah, and there's the rub. Heck, how do the human rebels know they're being used for power generation? Or data processing, or whatever the reason for the whole thing is? Who's to say the history they learn hasn't been manipulated by the machines over the millennia?

"It… Comes up at one point, but I suppose it's mostly background. While it is quite a long time since the A.I.'s took over, it's never explicitly stated that other forms of energy aren't available. Even if they had used up all the fissionables, there's still geothermal."

"Right. And there's no way they could just be feeding liquidised human to other humans. There'd be energy loss each generation."
Also a large plot hole.

"Ah. No, you see, you're making a dangerous assumption there."

"I am?"
Oh?

"Yes. I didn't.. spot it myself either. But if the conceit of the film is that we're living in a virtual environment, how do you know what real physics are? Your school just taught you the system's basic physics engine. You won't experience real physics until you leave the matrix, so for all you know the machines run on chi or mana or something."
...Huh. If there wasn't out-of-movie background material to go from, that might also be plausible.

"Huh…"

"Or entropy might not be real at all, just another sign of the depressive tendency inherent in the human mind."
Eh, a little less likely, at least in the movie's universe.

"Or psychic 'energy'."

"Or anything. Or the human brain could be the most cost-effective regulator system for something."
And it has been millenia. Who's to say what advances the machines made in that time? They have functional anti-gravity systems, after all.

"But why wouldn't they just go into space..? Or is.. space not real either?"

"Maybe they did, and a few are sticking around because it takes a long time to build infrastructure. Or they just really hate humans and sticking around is the whole point."
All things beyond the scope of the movie's plot, alas, and thus ignored in favour of more flying punch-fests in a rainstorm.

"But what do you think?"

"I think the writers didn't think about it too hard."
Rule of cool, baby. They wanted a fun action movie, the details don't matter as long as sexy people are doing physically improbable feats with explosions going off.

She exhales sharply through her nose in agreement. "So when's a good night for you?"

"Mayan's going to need me to proofread her work tomorrow… Monday?"
...Man, it's going to be really nasty when he finds out what's really going on, isn't it?

"I can do Monday. What exactly are you and.. Mayan..? Doing?"

"Journalism. Or if you want to know what our personal relationship is, we're friends. Minbari don't date outside of their species, and I've accepted that."
...So if she had been willing, he'd have raised his flag in that direction?

"Did you ask?"

"The subject came up, and she was polite but direct. Oh, but I… Wanted to ask…"
The unconventional maid, if I remember right...

"Mm?"

"This isn't a conflict of interest for you, is it?"
Huh, he actually did clock her as PSI Corps?

"What do you mean?"

"Well, I know that I… Am or was the subject of a Psi Corp investigation, and you're a Psi Cop…"
I suppose even without scanning her dee enough, he'd pick up on things like the apparently involuntary surface-level contact from physical interaction that Vaermina mentioned... Unless she's very good at restraining her power, anyway.

Her hand tightens, and her skin chills. "You… Knew about that?"

"Yes, of course. You were in that advert a few years ago, when you were a cadet."
He went on a deep dive of her history, I see.

"I was in the background!"

"You had a line."

She cringes slightly, which… Given the advert, is pretty fair. But at least her hand starts going back to its normal temperature. "How did you even see that!?"
Good to see she's staying calm.

"I looked up stuff on Psi Corp, because it's such a new thing for me. The website had all of their old adverts archived."

"Ah… Unless my boss has a change of heart, you're not being investigated. Unless you know where Jason Ironheart is, and I don't think-."
...Slight problem there...

"He was on Babylon Five last time I saw him. I gave him a lift, since I was heading that way?"

She stops, pulling her hand free as she turns to face me. "Are you serious?"

"Yes? Is..? That a problem?"
Ah, will this show her true colours, or at least those of the persona covering her true self?

"He's wanted for murder and espionage."

"…oh."
To be fair, Matthew didn't ask for details, he probably just hoped Ironheart mind-wiped people, maybe.

"You didn't know that?"

"I know it now."
Not that it would have stopped him helping, I suspect.

"Seriou-? It was all over the news."

"I don't watch the news much." I shrug awkwardly. "It keeps referencing things I've never heard of."

"What exactly happened?"
Ah, how much truth to mix in to his explanation, hmm?

"He… Walked up to me, said he'd heard of me from Psi Corps internal gossip and asked if I could give him a lift. I figured, okay, getting on the good side of someone in Psi Corps would be a good idea after the mess of my last interview…" I shrug. "He said something about travelling on, and that was over a week ago…"
Right, mentioning nothing of how he gave him a lift. Though if PSI Corps think to check with Babylon 5 security...

"Damn it.

"I didn't know he was a murderer at the time , I thought he was just bumming a free ride."
What about the data he brought along? Or is Matthew playing a little dumb to avoid suspicion, I wonder?

"Right, I need to report that right now." She steps away from me, towards the road. "Taxi!"

Call taxi.

"So..?"
I like that. He almost certainly know this will make trouble for him, but he still moves to help her.

She looks back. "So?"

"Are we still on for Monday..?"
He's certainly optimistic. I'd ask if he had a blue Ring, but we know otherwise.

"I don't know! I think dating an Accessory After The Fact might be a conflict of interest!"

"But can you let me know?"

"I-." She exhales heavily as a taxi pulls up. "Yes, I'll let you know."
And given Bester's interest, regardless of what she said, I suspect he'll be seeing her again.

30th April 2258
22:28 G.M.T. -5
Kelsey


"You see?" Bester smiles smugly at me, and I can barely keep from rolling my eyes. "I told you it was worthwhile."
Ah, overconfident Machiavellian true believer villains...

I certainly hope Underwood isn't really being as foolish as he appears to be. He's got enough information to suspect that something is going on with his 'date'. Maybe he's giving PSI Corps enough line to bait themselves into something foolish, or he's wilfully overlooking the crimes against humanity in hopes of some romance. 😅 And it's hard to tell if either theory is right or wrong...
 
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Someone should probably tell Mr Zoat that this is something a member of the Psi-Corp absolutely would not do because skin contact makes it almost impossible not to read someone's mind.

Like, that's a major plot point and everything.
If I remember correctly, one of the RPG books said that the gloves are mostly there to keep a separation between ordinary people and telepaths.

And it wouldn't be surprising if Psi Corp has a way around any potential touch telepathy incidents, since if they're interested in spying in someone then they may be discovered by their refusal to touch people.
 
Did the native Paul of the Babylon 5 universe write a version of this fanfic?
 
If I remember correctly, one of the RPG books said that the gloves are mostly there to keep a separation between ordinary people and telepaths.

And it wouldn't be surprising if Psi Corp has a way around any potential touch telepathy incidents, since if they're interested in spying in someone then they may be discovered by their refusal to touch people.
When I said it was a plot point on the show I meant it.

There was this whole thing with Taila and Susan and it being used as a metaphor for their intimacy to get things passed the censors.
 
Did the native Paul of the Babylon 5 universe write a version of this fanfic?
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Missing quotation mark at the end.
Pretty sure both of these should be Psi Corps.
Thank you, corrected.
You know, they actually did handle the aliens. Aspect of The Matrix at 1 point, basically between taking over the Earth. And before neo, there was some point where aliens literally invaded, and they kind of trained up pilots to take the alien ships out, it just never comes up. Cause it happened before neo.
Darn. You know, I actually remember reading that on their old website. That's the one where they actually told the pilot what was going on, put him through multiple versions of his life to accelerate his training and ended up leaving him in space because they couldn't risk him coming back.
What about the data he brought along? Or is Matthew playing a little dumb to avoid suspicion, I wonder?
Yes.
Ah, overconfident Machiavellian villains...
Not exactly. Bester isn't the prince. He's not even the general. He's a loyal captain at most. And he isn't just interested in preserving his power, he's a genuine ideologue.
I certainly hope Underwood isn't really being as foolish as he appears to be. He's got enough information to suspect that something is going on with his 'date'. Maybe he's giving PSI Corps enough line to bait themselves into something foolish, or he's wilfully overlooking the crimes against humanity in hopes of some romance. 😅 And it's hard to tell if either theory is right or wrong...
He knows that some parts of the organisation are dodgy and that the dodgy parts probably include some of the Psi Cops.
Did the native Paul of the Babylon 5 universe write a version of this fanfic?
No, he did the boar army instead.
 
We're back on Babylon 5. AND we got the site back up, too. Thank god...

Anyway, let's see where we left off...

"But that doesn't make any sense."

Kelsey's… Actually holding my hand. I don't think… Anyone's held my hand since my grandparents decided that I could be trusted to walk by myself.

...is she wearing gloves? Because if not, that definitely says something about her control.

"But what do you think?"

"I think the writers didn't think about it too hard."

That's why I liked the Matrix. It was good fun and I didn't need to think too much about the stuff around it.

"I can do Monday. What exactly are you and.. Mayan..? Doing?"

"Journalism. Or if you want to know what our personal relationship is, we're friends. Minbari don't date outside of their species, and I've accepted that."

"Did you ask?"

"The subject came up, and she was polite but direct. Oh, but I… Wanted to ask…"

The Minbari peanut gallery losing their nonexistent lunch over it probably didn't help.

Her hand tightens, and her skin chills. "You… Knew about that?"

Ah, she's not wearing gloves. Now, does the reason why Psi Corps wear them actually apply at all?

"Yes, of course. You were in that advert a few years ago, when you were a cadet."

"I was in the background!"

"You had a line."

She cringes slightly, which… Given the advert, is pretty fair. But at least her hand starts going back to its normal temperature. "How did you even see that!?"

...okay, this was funny as heck. Caught because you happened to appear in an old advert, and based on her reaction, it was mortifying time for her. Honestly, she seems to be way more normal in her reactions here than in the show, where she was doing everything she could to appear as unnerving as possible.

"Ah… Unless my boss has a change of heart, you're not being investigated. Unless you know where Jason Ironheart is, and I don't think-."

"He was on Babylon Five last time I saw him. I gave him a lift, since I was heading that way?"

...okay, go right ahead and say it straight. Of course...yeah, Ironheart is probably long gone from the station by now. Thumbs up for the sheer balls of it.

She stops, pulling her hand free as she turns to face me. "Are you serious?"

...yes, he is. It is an important question, after all.

"So..?"

She looks back. "So?"

"Are we still on for Monday..?"

"I don't know! I think dating an Accessory After The Fact might be a conflict of interest!"

"But can you let me know?"

"I-." She exhales heavily as a taxi pulls up. "Yes, I'll let you know."

Again, thumbs up. You didn't wreck the whole thing beyond recovery.

"You see?" Bester smiles smugly at me, and I can barely keep from rolling my eyes. "I told you it was worthwhile."

And there he is. Honestly, as far as genuine antagonists goes in B5, Bester is one of the best ones in the series. And Kelsey, darling, he probably knows exactly how much you want to roll your eyes at him.

Everyone, give a moment of silence for Alfred Bester's actor Walter Koenig after he passed away at the age of 90. I knew him better as Chekov from Star Trek, but damn if he didn't do amazing work as Alfred Bester.
 

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