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Worm cyoa v6

Discussion in 'General' started by Gorgrath177, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. Gorgrath177

    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Worm cyoa v6

    made this on a highschool computer when i was bored a year or two ago. I know it’s not that good but still surprised that nobody’s used it. Personally think they can’t handle the idea of writing a worm fic that actually fits the setting and has to work for power and respect. Better than fucking v1 when it comes to balance for the setting that’s for sure! Anyway, what build would you make? how’d you build up in Brockton? Do ya thing my companions are fun? Do you think it’s time for someone to make a hardcore worm fic? Has anyone actually had the balls to kill the undersides? Thoughts?
     
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  2. Xjado

    Xjado I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I have just read through your CYOA and I think I know why no one used it. First, it feels very work in progress. The formating feels like you were trying to have each shard start at the top of the page but the distances from the top of the page are inconsistent, and there are two blank pages for no reason. Second most of the time when people are doing a CYOA they are not looking for balanced, they are looking for a power fantasy. Why do you think the earlier Worm CYOAs get so many stories but the v5 which is halfway balanced gets so few? And even when it does get a story it is usually someone using one of the many ways to break what little balance it has. Thirdly on a more stylistic note, the whole thing feels very teenagery. The ROB is the worst part for me, It feels like a 15 or 16 year old trying to do psycho god and doing cringe worthy job of it.
     
  3. Malbutorius

    Malbutorius Xenophile

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    Not to mention that it's just very boring and bland. Like, legit, it makes me ask what the point even is. Showing up naked is worth 2 points, being hunted down by a top end cape is worth barely over double. It also feels like it rewards psychos way more than people actually interested in writing a story. Honestly, if anything, CYOA's like this justify the existence of Meta CYOA's to kick ROB's like this in the nuts.

    If the base CYOA isn't good, at best people will cheat, at worst people will forget it exists immediately after they walk away.
     
  4. Beast II

    Beast II Beast Of Regression on vacation.

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    Short version: This is low effort garbage that has more in common with a random 4chan shit post than worm.
    Long version:
    - No introduction at all. Anyone who just scroll down on reddit's CYOA subreddit for example, would have zero idea if this CYOA is even based on something or just a random low quality wall of text, if they don't have prior knowledge of Worm.
    - You mentioned shards, that's okay, but are they Zion shards, Eden shards, Abaddon shards or maybe ROB shards?
    How much energy do they have(potential life span of the shard..., can we second trigger?(Eden/Cauldon Capes can't for example), are the powers static or they grow with use(Canon Zion shard used the carrot too, not just the stick)...
    - ROB, okay he/she/it is a trope but that's not the problem. The problem is that there could have been so many options(Zion's subconsciously seeking death, Abaddon got piss drunk on Entity version of Moonshine, a malfunctioning fail-safe for Eden, a forth entity, a fucking space time vortex or anything... Yet you had to choose this sorry excuse of self-righteous, utter case of edgelord of a ROB.
    Fics based on CYOAs are either, as previously mentioned, power fantasies, or someone actually wanting to have an adventure then they will seek something that at least resemble quality. This can't be used for either. Fics based on this would be, as I said before, shit posts at best...
    - Read the beginning P.S. and tell me you can take this thing seriously(something needed if you want "challenging" CYOAs. The conclusion is an utter joke.

    And the list could go on...
     
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  5. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    I been trying to find the author, NOW I MET HIM
    Willing to update it?
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Maybe. Wouldn’t use photoshop or something though, just maybe add some companions and ways to get points.
    I’ll whip some stuff up today. I dunno how much though I’m not really a writer.
     
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  7. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    Can you future explain what it mean to actually be a War Tinker, And Relay Tinker? cause as it stand I doesn't know what they meant.
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    They’re the different types of tinker categories. Every power has a more precise category to it, tinkers are just the ones most needing clarification due to amount of restrictions each type brings. War tinkers are specialized in turning themselves into a badass. Power armor, guns, grenades, cannons etc. Relay tinkers have all their tech connected to each other via wires, signals, or a hive mind etc. The point is all of their stuff is part of a larger whole. Architect tinkers are simple, they only make large scale stuff. Most of their tech is car sized at least and usually work as factories, shaker abilities, or war mechs. Wildbow made a bunch of docs about it on the weaverdice reddit. Check it out.
     
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  9. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    I know about Tinker Docs, What I mean is that I can't find what War Tinker Entail from the original docs.
    Also relay but thanks for the expansion.

    My favorite is and will alway be "Butcher" Resource Tinker, with a Drawback sooo steep its basically a detriment, but with a crafting speed so fast that the drawback is just there to troll you.

    Also Don't Worry There will be a Worm CYOA 7 SOON.

    Tribute to Worm CYOA 1, tagged: Balance? What Balance
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Thanks. Mostly I made it in higschool as a reply to all the broken cyoa’s and whiny si five, boo hoo I have superpowers. It’s annoying. Even v5 the most balanced one is broken! And it’s pretty obvious the guy who made it didn’t know much about power categories. A ability to turn into stone was in the changer section. Worm cyoa v6 1.2
     
  11. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    Need Permission to View and Yes it should have been in Breaker or Brute.
    Abaddon's Shard was not elaborate upon.
    My most favorite and literally no one will ever touch was Worm V4 by Updatedudes never gain traction.
    Actually What Im making isn't Worm V7 Its actually V8 Since Eclipes Exist.
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Sorry. Fixed. I agree I really like v4. Sucks nobody uses it.
     
  13. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    Time to Move this to the PM before the Mod Come in like a Wrecking Ball
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Nah the thread is about the cyoa doubt discussion is a problem.
     
  15. duburu

    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    Okay so, How Worm are you trying to make your CYOA?
    Is it based on a Kidnapped Shard ROB kidnapped from other cycle?
    I like the Idea of TheAnt Shard: Reality Blue
    An Alien Civs that put a fight to the Entity through sheer technology Imitation of Power to a lesser degree. And as a spite against the entity they unleashed a virus, where they give knowledge of their tech to infect the shard so that the host will have a Tinker Sidepower along with their main power.

    Or you can do the Cauldron Vial: Where each power is Ironic to what the people's problem.

    A idea for The Glutton:
    12 Point Power:
    Nest

    -Regenerator
    -Body Part/organic Tissues of house that is seperate from the main body become Minion(can be little gremlin, insect, etc) Minion can be just mindless or can be attached to other shard to gain a Minor of that power variation of said linked power.

    Or Organic Hive:
    Able to incorporate Living Organism into body, Not like Organic Adaptation, it like you are a walking ecosystem inside you.
    Tyranid's Grub Launcher style

    The Shield Bearer:
    Material Tinker: Able to make exotic matter that behave differently when exposes to the current world Physic:
    Wonky Energy direction/Manipulation: when hit by something it behave in a different way, laser instead of cauterizing the users, will instead split into different wavelength, or be treated like a ice ray instead.

    Storm Witch:
    Gas Minion: Minion is created from different gases the user ingested, User gases/toxin tolerant is increase to a upper limit, but can still get OD
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Mostly I’m trying to make it worm by making sure all the powers fit into the setting but you can still be a badass. No bullshit like all of v5’s trump powers. All the abilities given out in worm are not capable of defeating an entity on their own, the fairy queen and eidolon are the exception. All the ways to get points are designed to make it so you need to EARN powers through suffering. Pretty much I’m trying to make the hardcore but not unfair cyoa where your choices matter, unlike v1-v3 where you can close your eyes, put the powers on a dartboard, throw and still be More powerful than an entity. Still get pissed whenever a worm fic has biokinesis allow for PLANT MANIPULATION! That and the constant bitching are what I hate about most si’s. Especially when they have broken powers.
     
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  17. Malbutorius

    Malbutorius Xenophile

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    So, despite hating the constant bitching of SI's dealing with the fact they're stuck in a grimderp world where most of there actions won't matter, you're going to shove them into a grimderp world through a grimderp transport method where none of their actions matter in either case anyways? Like, seriously, unless you're OP as shit you're basically guarenteed to die in Worm, and even then, you'll probably still die.

    Worm is a death sentence, and merely being in the setting alone and having to deal with it's ridiculous degrees of narrative suffering fellatio is worse than any of your drawbacks.
     
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    What bothers me is they bitch when they have say, the fucking KALEIDOSCOPE as a superpower and whine anyway. There is no struggle when you can literally snap your fingers and all the end runners and Zion die, then travel to any universe you want for the rest of eternity. It’s not about them surviving it’s about them fitting in. None of the other cyoa’s have fitting powers for the setting that aren’t exploitable as all hell.
     
  19. Malbutorius

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    You're clearly late to the bus, everyone hates those complainers. The CYOA's after it were made with the idea in mind that nobody actually liked how BS the first edition was, and as such made it so that if you wanted to be a top tier cape it'd take a lot of resources rather than just being the default option.

    But the fact is, it was still possible to dump all of your points on powers and be really strong but without things that are actually really important in reality, such as connections, actual skills, resources, and friends that can have your back. Sure it's easy to become a Hobo with Triumvirate tier powers, but you'd still have no real skills or abilities and you probably had to take some potentially lethal drawbacks to do so.

    Yours however is so bitchy about those kinds of people that it becomes even more bitchy and whiny than the people you were complaining about.
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    The thing is. Everyone uses the first 3. And even if they didn’t, v5’s entire trump section was broken along with a lot of power combo’s you could make, even if you didn’t have skills it wouldn’t matter because you could go toe-to-toe with Zion, friends are dirt cheap in v5 also. What I’m trying to make is a cyoa that can’t be used for minmaxing bullshit and fits the settings bleakness.

    First of all, not cool. Second, that’s kinda hard to quantify, there are dozens of average worm cyoa fics out there. Most of them have the si bitching about being in worm multiple times. Mine isn’t about being whiny, it’s a reply to broken bullshit. It starts with a rant from the point of view of a ROB that is sick of ungratefulness, the cyoa is supposed to be a punishment.
     
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    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    Worm CYOA and Its Tier 1 Addendum, which most people forget about the Addendum that pained me the most broken all around Tier 1 included

    from Worm CYOA 1-3 You only need 4-5 Point to break the setting, Tylenol Power Specifically: Geases is broken as fucked, can't eat fish, can't eat shellfish, can't eat etc. 1-4 point: Followed by taking Twin: -2 Eidolon = Blindspot for contessa, -1 Full control of power, -1 amped blindspot to included both scion and endbringer, and Bammed you now can find a way to knife scion like how Contessa Shank Eden.

    Sun Tzu CYOA on the other hand, is not as broken but still up there depending on how you interpret "Qualitative Improvement"
    Worm 4 CYOA: Every Power is A+ Tier, it said so on the beginning page, and it all can be combined to formed new power
    Worm 5 Aleph, and New Update Bet: Depend on how you interpret Abaddon Shard(see contessa)
    Nightgazer CYOA(Still save most of it on my drive to look back on) Broken as shiiiiiiiiiitttttt
    Worm Curzard Edition: Nice
    Worm Eclipses: Worm 3 and revised 3 but more insane and run on pure bullshit
    Worm Superpower Roulete: 624 fucking powers from the weakest to the most bullshit is in that shit. Some including the master power of controling Cloud, to the trump-master power of giving animal power and human intelligent: (By far my most favorite one that I found) 624 power, and the first rule it talk about in the PDF was that Trump is rare In-Universe, So if you somehow rolled and get it. Flip a coin head you keep it, tail you rerolled. If the next rerolled is a trump, no coin flipped is needed.

    Edit: lets just discussed this CYOA and how to drive it in a direction that the creator wanted to, we can complain about how most SI is stupid all we want, but by this point it is a tropes in and of itself
     
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    Gorgrath177 Professional supervillain

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    Where can I find this? Sounds awesome!
     
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    duburu Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm sad at the lack of including my CYOA. I thought it was popular.:(
     
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    I liked it!