I just don't think the Grail Influence would be nearly as impactful, and I'd really rather we spend Velvet's personal social actions on people we actually intend to keep around.
If you're talking narrative, I can't argue about that.
If we're talking pure mechanical bonuses, Mareinette rolls +90 while Velvet would roll 13 (diplo) +20 (grail 4) +40 (grail influence) = +73.
BUT of course Velvet would get to use that +40 from grail in Mansus, Tall Tale, and any other diplo challenge she might go through during the turn, and Mareinette MIGHT in theory make decisions we dislike when she's supposed to "guess" what we'd want to do.
...also also I kinda feel bad about Diamond Tiara, Mareinette might have traumatized her
We can have her sell low level artifacts. Allow her to gaslight people as much as needed so they are convinced that they are ancient relicts or something, but overall it is not too amorally I think. Or maybe Cadance will buy them.
oh, that's not a bad idea.
@OurLadyOfWires would having Mareinette sell our unused (or unstudied) artifacts allowed?
and in general, how would selling artifacts work? Do we get to auction them, roll for payoff, is it a fixed price, can we do it in the first place?
I may be missing something, but weren't we going to do one of the SH Sacraments this turn?
the short of it is that we're thinking of prioritizing study while having Baldomare's Lantern influence to help instead.
Moth 5 book makes us ready for Moth Sacrament and without an influence it would be MUCH harder to research due to maluses, Lantern 4 artifact (combined with the SH 3 one we already have) allows us to turn MANY of our confidants and Names into decent scryers and Selene in particular into a superlative Mare-in-the-Light summoner, the Manehattan book will probably unlock a good expedition...
As Baldomare's action would be used for Lantern Influence, we couldn't do her sacrament (requires her action for an expedition. also it costs bits and we're kinda short on those) or get the SH Influence for our personal instead.
We can still do the Edge Sacrament though, so we're still doing more expeditions. I imagine next turn we'd do the Baldomare Sacrament, and the one after our personal one (benefiting from SH 5 giving us another +10 to the sacrament actions).
Oh. I guess I didn't see that.
yeah.
I think the idea is
Turn 22: Biedde
Edge Sacrament, with edge influence and 3 AotL for best odds (and pray to the dice gods).
Turn 23: Baldomare
SH (cost: 1 velvet AP, 1 Baldomare AP, 50 bits) AND
Moth Sacrament (we should reach moth cap with the moth book, and Spoiled Rich should be brought to Good Friend leashed into Confidant on turn 22).
turn 24: Potentially personal
SH (2 velvet actions, 1 baldomare action for SH influence)
Depending on how things go, we MIGHT be ready for Baldomare Lantern and Forge (personal or new name) on turn 23 or 24 too, we basically need an extra lantern scrap beside those from influence and artifact, AND one more forge scrap (which maybe we'll be lucky and get from the summoning itself?) in addition to the Forge Influence from the new name (giving 2 scraps).
Yeah Biedde's invitation is looking really good since Baldomare wont be befriended next turn anyway... which means that we're only doing a pleasant hike and not our personal SH sacrament next turn. So we can risk wounds more easily this turn. And frankly despite how it worked out last time I'd not be too worried about attending Tall Tale in person even at 1 wounds, especially since Velvet can just provide Lantern and let the constables handle the combat if so. I wouldn't vote to abort if we failed Edge Sacrament.
with +69 combat, I'm willing to take a risk on Tall Tale... but really,
I'd do THAT one first BEFORE Biedde preferably.
| Rarity | Find a 3circle Site |
why Rarity? have Axe or Selene do it, they have far higher rolls due to general bonus +30.
Also... should we try to scry for Neighnia?
I prefer Mareinette Influence and free social on Spoiled too, as that gives us potential bonuses for tall tale and mansus.
Proposal turn 22 plan, because thankfully the QM assigns actions according to who would do them best we don't need to ping him to ask whether Axe or Rarity would do better at Finding a 3circle Site, since it'll get autoassigned. Current placement of generic actions are just placeholders/assumptions.
oh, that's true. that said our Names (and Selene) have higher general bonuses than mortals, so they'll near certainly be better than Rarity or Filthy... unless there's narrative considerations, I suppose. Like Filthy maybe having a free warehouse or Selene knowing about the Castle in the Everfree.
To be very clear, about the Moods of Mareinette.
Keeping her close is an indication you ARE interested in a relationship with her. And sending her to Cadance is an indication you are not AS INTERESTED as Mareinette first assumed.
That is to say, keeping her close will not make her your BABFF instantly. And sending her away will not make her feel instantly slighted and uninterested in maintaining contact with you. But both are steps on those respective directions. They are small, first steps, but still that's where those roads lead.
There was a mention about "what each option could mean", and whether player intent/discussion would play into it. So let me be very clear that yes player intent is always important for me, but actions speak louder.
Mareinette is playing the guest game. Which, make no mistake, means she is playing and that she sees this as a game. It is up to you to either play along or not.
Like you said to Reproach, "yes, this is a joke, because the alternative is that this is serious".
good to know.
I'm starting to get more interested in her (and her sacrament)... which I kinda find worrying.
she's getting to me through the 4th wall!
So for now, I do not know. And we are a bit too close to the end of the quest for me to think the effort that this will involve will be worth it.
More on that later, really. It is not a huge problem, or a great loss. Just a mechanical issue I haven't made a decision on yet.
@OurLadyOfWires
interesting wording
"too close to the end of the quest for the effort to be worth it"
" I haven't decided yet, more on that later".
It seems to be implying "the end of the quest" is NOT "the end of the story"
