Margin of Error

USSExplorer · 2026-09-11T08:21:38+0100

Arlos said:
I've always been of the mind that a Humans/Citadel cold war, with an arms race on top, would have actually been better for the galaxy, at least compared to canon.
If you balance it carefully, and keep diplomatic channel open, you might get a « Well, we're ennemies, but if something real bad happen let's put it aside for a moment and hold hands » mentality too.

Honestly, up until Shep becomes a Spectre, and even after, depending on choices, that's sort of simmering there under the surface of the games, imo.
Never a major thing, as there's an existential threat (once the Council realise it), but it's there. Humanity looked at the Dreadnought treaty and goes... "Hey look, it's the Washington Naval Treaty but in space. We know how to get around that. Someone go get 'Danger Zone' ready."

Here... well, depending on Marcus' moves, public and private, before and after Shanxi, the Citadel might be wondering if the Alliance is another Rachi/Korgan threat waiting to happen.

USSExplorer · 2026-09-11T08:24:25+0100

Reynard69 said:

Always been more of a human-first sort of person.

Imagine what a child of hers and Marcus would be capable of!

Skirata567 · 2026-09-11T09:08:52+0100

USSExplorer said:
Always been more of a human-first sort of person.

Imagine what a child of hers and Marcus would be capable of!

Same here, 'butt' I'm more help first humanity and make others think that we help everyone...with galaxy track record it could be difficult, 'butt' manageble.......it's not our fault that most galaxy have imagination of hamster.......

USSExplorer · 2026-09-11T09:22:49+0100

Skirata567 said:
Same here, 'butt' I'm more help first humanity and make others think that we help everyone...with galaxy track record it could be difficult, 'butt' manageble.......it's not our fault that most galaxy have imagination of hamster.......

Well, not everyone.

Got worlds full of four-eyed bastards to exterminate for thinking the Alliance is weak.
Batarians are in for a nightmare if Mindoir happens in this reality

al103 · 2026-09-11T10:36:15+0100

Arimai said:
Or. Humanity focuses on advancing and creating an entire military of heavy hitters. Advanced enough ships to kill any Citadel fleet commanded by a moron who opens fire on human ships unprovoked. Be the new Rachni they fear. I'm tired of rehashing through the FCW then stations of canon. I hate canon

Humanity would never be able to do anything to Citadel on war footing. Thing is - Citadel never managed to go on war footing, even Turians. And Humanity are NOT Reapers to rush Citadel flat before they are ready.

So Humanity need special solutions. Shepards are one such solution.

Arlos · 2026-09-11T10:55:59+0100

USSExplorer said:
Honestly, up until Shep becomes a Spectre, and even after, depending on choices, that's sort of simmering there under the surface of the games, imo.
Never a major thing, as there's an existential threat (once the Council realise it), but it's there. Humanity looked at the Dreadnought treaty and goes... "Hey look, it's the Washington Naval Treaty but in space. We know how to get around that. Someone go get 'Danger Zone' ready."

Here... well, depending on Marcus' moves, public and private, before and after Shanxi, the Citadel might be wondering if the Alliance is another Rachi/Korgan threat waiting to happen.

Well, even if it happened in canon, it clearly didn't have enough effect on military buildup, I am hoping this Humanity will at least force the Asari to take out some lf the stuff they keep at the bottom of the box (Prothean VI).

I don't think I ever quite forgave them for having all the pieces to try and solve the problem for millenias…And just doing nothing about it.

USSExplorer said:
Always been more of a human-first sort of person.

Imagine what a child of hers and Marcus would be capable of!

…She's gonna dream about it, isn't she?

Skirata567 · 2026-09-11T11:17:12+0100

Arlos said:
…She's gonna dream about it, isn't she?

She always had perfection fetish and Marcus is closest thing humanity will have to perfection. Hell I wouldn't be suprised if her Father send her to seduce/marry him for what he has in his head....

USSExplorer · 2026-09-11T11:36:32+0100

al103 said:
Humanity would never be able to do anything to Citadel on war footing. Thing is - Citadel never managed to go on war footing, even Turians. And Humanity are NOT Reapers to rush Citadel flat before they are ready.

Only the Asari could probalby match the Turians at full war footing. THey'd be lacking in numbers, but the odds their forces are far superior because that VI are good, I'd say.

al103 said:
So Humanity need special solutions.

Oh, don't worry. I have something planned there beyond Marcus being one of those special solutions.

Arlos said:
Well, even if it happened in canon, it clearly didn't have enough effect on military buildup, I am hoping this Humanity will at least force the Asari to take out some lf the stuff they keep at the bottom of the box (Prothean VI).

I've got a few ideas on how to do that. From simply getting Javik early to... The Asari Job

Arlos said:
I don't think I ever quite forgave them for having all the pieces to try and solve the problem for millenias…And just doing nothing about it.

Yeah, learning that in ME3 was infuriating. Until the Cruicible/Catalyst crap, at any rate.
Thousands of years with all that tech nd knowing the Reapers were a thing, and the Asari Matriarchs did... jack shit.

TIM was right about not trusting aliens

Arlos said:
…She's gonna dream about it, isn't she?

Skirata567 said:
She always had perfection fetish and Marcus is closest thing humanity will have to perfection. Hell I wouldn't be suprised if her Father send her to seduce/marry him for what he has in his head....

Well, let's ignore that Marcus is old enough to be her father (2130 vs 2150). And that no one knows just how advanced his genome is (Hint: Further beyond Miranda than she is humanity, even before they get any boosters)

But, yeah, if she ever learnt about his 'advancements', and with her Daddy issues...
Sounds like a '-dere' incoming.

Arlos · 2026-09-11T11:43:03+0100

USSExplorer said:
Well, let's ignore that Marcus is old enough to be her father (2130 vs 2150). And that no one knows just how advanced his genome is (Hint: Further beyond Miranda than she is humanity, even before they get any boosters)

But, yeah, if she ever learnt about his 'advancements', and with her Daddy issues...
Sounds like a '-dere' incoming.

Would Marcus even get old? I'd say if they both look in their 30s by then, it's all good!

USSExplorer said:
TIM was right about not trusting aliens

Shame the he was compromised from the get to go, it's actually hard to tell where TIM end and where the Reapers pawn begin.
After all, he did create a project to resurrect the Reapers greatest enemy whole and untouched, so he's definitely not fully gone by then.

USSExplorer · 2026-09-11T11:50:49+0100

Arlos said:
Would Marcus even get old? I'd say if they both look in their 30s by then, it's all good!

That.... is a fair point. I haven't considered how he'll age in truth, as nothing past FCW is planned/written.
Though there'd be complications for getting with Miranda or anyone else from the canon cast given current plans.

Arlos said:
Shame the he was compromised from the Get to go, it's actually hard to tell where TIM end and where the Reapers pawn begin.

So, should Marcus 'save' Harper from touching the Reaper artefact, or simply take over Cerberus himself from the get-go?

Arlos · 2026-09-11T12:00:49+0100

USSExplorer said:
That.... is a fair point. I haven't considered how he'll age in truth, as nothing past FCW is planned/written.
Though there'd be complications for getting with Miranda or anyone else from the canon cast given current plans.

It's your story, so you do you, I'd have personally liked a romance with a cast members, but I am not to hang up about it.

USSExplorer said:
So, should Marcus 'save' Harper from touching the Reaper artefact, or simply take over Cerberus himself from the get-go?

Both is good? All others thing aside Jack is pretty talented guy, tough nothing like Marcus of course, would be a shame to have him wasted on the Reapers.
I think Marcus could use him as a right hand? Maybe?

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