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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

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    Not sure the alterations made her mode avaricious, but they just allowed her constructs to be somewhat stronger, even if her avarice isn't all that much.
     
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  2. cereal_lurker

    cereal_lurker Getting sticky.

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    Doesn't it? If More Will = More Power for Green Lanterns, and More Avarice = More Power for Orange Lanterns... Wouldn't stronger orange constructs be an indicator of greater avarice? I can understand the effect being temporary and fading over the months since (sort of like muscles atrophying due to lack of use, if that's how it works in the story). But the power effects appeared to persist for at least several days/weeks which suggests that she was continuing to use the power - hence my question.
     
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  3. Darko

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    Even if the power up persisted it still may not come naturally to her, like how wielding a blue ring might.
     
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  4. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    I wonder if we'll ever see Constantine, Lord of Chaos again.

    Maybe he'll possibly be engaged in a bout of fisticuffs with Willoughby Kipling over who's most deserving of being the archetypal chain smoking, alcoholic, streetwise mage with a trenchcoat?
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    See frond. Grasp. Pull to mouth. Chew.

    An old memory. I recognise the species from Green Lantern Corps records; their favourite host from their original homeworld. It was burned to ash by a now-extinct empire who 'totally had this'.

    I see other similar desire-sets. Simple creatures eating, sleeping and mating. Defending the herd against predators. Not being mentally complex enough to recognise that the 'oddface' members of the herd were now hosts for the primordial Star Conquerors.

    Was one of them the host of the Star Conqueror who eventually became this?

    A partially submerged city with six-limbed sentients going about their business, apparently ignoring the starfish on their faces as they greet friends or work at their jobs.



    What?

    Yes, Star Conquerors kept some civilisations sort of functioning, but never 'as is'. They only maintained the things their hosts needed in order to live and procreate. They didn't… Carry on like before but with added starfish.

    In the sky, Mother Stars.. look.. down, obscuring the stars and at the same time… Not. There's a sense of… Rightness about this. Either the Mother Star regards this as exactly how things should be, or… Star Conquerors in general do? I can't tell whether this is a stored memory from this Mother Star or telepathically shared memory from another part of the species.

    I look.. around, and through the overwhelming orange I feel from the Mother Star observers I.. can feel the other emotion of the people. A… Um, I don't know what sexes this species had. A starfish-faced 'care giver' escorts a small group of starroed children and I can see the bonds of love. A flash of compassion as one being helps another out of the water after they struggled to pull themselves up.

    No, seriously, what is this?

    I press on, trying to find an actual memory and things snap. Mother Stars fade into nothing as I see lifeless streets, the inhabitants moving 'efficiently' from place to place. Children are kept in orphanariums until they're large enough for a Star Conqueror, the silent caretakers keeping constant watch on children…

    Their faces are blank.


    What am I seeing?

    My ring ever so helpfully flashes up a diagram… The emotion-association patterns are retained in different parts of its neural network, okay. One literal and the other… Imagined?

    There's no emotion from the hosts here. The small Star Conquerors don't have a huge emotional range, and the hosts… The Guardians were never completely certain as they had no interest in studying Star Conquerors in situ. But studies of the survivors and the remains of those who were killed suggested that their mental processes were severely distorted. They shouldn't be capable of what I just…

    I'm floating over the streets of a city of thralls as they suddenly look up. There's no obvious reason for them to do so. They don't really need to look at loud noises or flashes of light in the way that humans do. Wrong set of instincts. But they've stopped, and-.

    The false-reality trembles

    A street of happy starfish faces

    A street of mindless starfish faces

    A city of people

    A city of thralls

    Emotion

    Hollowness

    Something… Emerges, from the starfish, from the people, from the thralls, from the structure of the city they live in. I feel ideas and thoughts and memories flow past and up up up into

    An eye opens in the sky, the five tentacles of a Mother Star-. No this Mother Star becoming… Visible. They were always… I think they were always there, just…

    "You just appear? That was where you were born?"

    **QuietPeople DreamEchoes NoDream. So Hungry.**

    "I don’t understand! What do you eat?"

    A section of its neural network lights up

    and I'm drawn in to see a young amphibious alien spooking some sort of sea anemone which spits forth a school of bright red aquatic near-slugs and the alien is drawn to them swimming among them

    and music interwoven with emotion, fragments of images and scents I can barely grasp

    an endless meadow

    streets racing past

    a crystal refracting the light of a dozen tiny suns

    "Is that how you see us? Our imaginations?"

    more images than I can easily count or even perceive and something stirs from the part of me that touches the Ophidian as I try and soak them all in.

    **QuietAloneTired. HurtAloneTired. NoDream. NotDreamHurt.**

    "Dreams? You see dreams?"

    **AllDream. ManyDream**

    "You feed on dreams? You-?" No, hang on. "You are a dream?"

    **Remember. RememberDream.**

    "How can I help-?"

    **Rem… em...**

    It-. No, the shut down of the major neural clusters has… Reached what looks like terminal levels. A life form this big is going to take a long time to completely die, but I'm not going to get anything much else out of it. And in case it telekinetically flails around in its death throes I need to keep moving the ClusterShip.

    "Illustres to everyone. The Mother Star is dying, and unlikely to present a further danger after today. I… Didn't kill it. I will make a full report available shortly."

    Half-glimpsed images continue to flicker through my mind

    and I take a moment to check my spell eater and my armour's telepathic defence modules. No, they're all working just fine.

    I'm not sure… What to t-.

    "My Lord Illustres!"

    To think about the Mother Star. I'm pretty sure what to think about Lord Lantern Comic King.

    "Lantern Khan."

    I turn around in space. Lantern Koriand'r is still towing the ClusterShip, and Alan's gotten outside to cover it if necessary. Lantern Khan's only a short distance from me, with L-Ron held firmly under his right arm.

    "Might I suggest that your crew could benefit from your presence at this trying time?"

    "Yes. In fact, they're going to be benefiting a good deal more!"

    "… Right. What-?"

    "I quit." He pulls the ring off his finger and tosses it to me, his environmental shield fading out at once. "My insurance doesn't cover giant starfish gods. No insurance covers that. We'll be leaving the Sol system as soon as we've recalled our planetside assets."



    I catch his ring in a small ring case construct and stuff it into the most heavily armoured storage compartment in my armour. Then I weld it shut.

    "Oh. Nooo."
     
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  6. Darko

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    'limbed'

    maybe 'front'

    'drawn'

    maybe 'to them, swimming among them' , just add a comma.

    So these things came from the Dreaming?

    Huh, maybe Morpheus kicked them out because they refused to sleep with him.

    He did send that woman to Hell for refusing him.
     
  7. egooo

    egooo Getting sticky.

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    ...I dont think even Khan would believe this one.
    :V
     
  8. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Haaaaaaahahahahahahahahah! HAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
     
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  9. FreeGod

    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    Earth the place with all the weird stuff.
     
  10. Darko

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    You wanna bet on that:D

    Technically this was Pluto.
     
  11. Twilight666

    Twilight666 I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Haha, yep!
    GG scrub!!:cool::p
     
  12. Prognostic Hannya

    Prognostic Hannya Knight of the Yuri Crusade

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    Oh god dammit did Guardians try to martian-ize the Star Conquerers and end up making them worse? That's totally something they would do, and they absolutely would get the GL core to clean up after their mistakes.
     
  13. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    hosts -> host
     
  14. Old Knife

    Old Knife Not too sore, are you?

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    .... Is this why Dox won't send more lanterns or fleets? Because of giant starfish gods and stuff like this?
     
  15. Darko

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    think it should be 'or even'
     
  16. Stsword

    Stsword Versed in the lewd.

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    Reminds me of justice league 3000.

    The leaguers were rather annoyed to find a planet of starros, who were allowed to enslave the planet because they had filled out the proper paperwork first.

    The league illegally picks a fight with the starros.

    To discover that the aliens they were possessing were psychologically rabid animals that would tear each other limb from limb in a self-genocidal orgy of violence. No, I won't pretend like that revelation makes sense.
     
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  17. BlueMangoAdea

    BlueMangoAdea Alive. For now.

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    Do the Star Conquerors simulate a... utopia(?) for their hosts while the host are being enslaved? Do the hosts retain their... dream while being controlled? What?
     
  18. Darko

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    So basically this:

     
  19. Diraniola

    Diraniola I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    The JLU cartoon did have an episode with starros that showed the POV of the thrall. I believe superman had a wife and son on krypton and Batman saw his father beat up the mugger that in reality killed him.
     
  20. Vaermina

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    So, a completely anti-climatic ending.

    And if Zoat were playing things straight, Paul would have just been infected by the Hatorei's madness. Because that's what this particular bit was about, but of course the "no negative side effects" SI protection is in effect so nothing will likely come of it.



    Nope, that's just the story of how Starro the Conqueror came to be.
     
  21. Galacticplumber

    Galacticplumber Not too sore, are you?

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    I think you're thinking of the black mercy from mother of mercy. Specifically still under villainous control at the time.
     
  22. Darko

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    That was a Black Mercy, one of the things Mother of Mercy makes that gives people good dreams while they slowly die.

    It would make sense if the Starros give their hosts good dreams to keep them docile.
     
  23. SaltyWaffles

    SaltyWaffles I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Well that was...a trip.

    And good riddance to Manga Khan. He outstayed his welcome...and made the OLC look really damn bad.
     
  24. Flux Casey

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    I... Find myself struggling to figure out what the point of this episode was. Or the previous one for that matter.

    • Manga Khan showed up, mildly upset global politics and trade, is now fucking off with no consequence
    • Russians launched a space fleet, it got stolen by freaking star conquerors, resolved with minimal fuss
    • Turns out Pluto is a Mother Star... But it died two updates after appearing without intervention
    • Atlantean politics is chugging along at no particular consequence

    Is... Is that it? I mean feel free to remind me if I missed anything but it feels like most of the last forty updates did absolutely nothing, save for a couple of funny moments.
     
  25. Chojin Patriarch

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    Heh, I bet that empire came to regret that. Have to wonder if this is the Mother Star's own memory or one inherited from a progenitor.

    This is trippy, just like i thought it would be...

    I concur... This can't be something real...

    I have to wonder what part the Starros played in this culture? Were they fitted at birth with a Starro symbiont? What if someone's Starro died but they lived? Would they be ostracised, euthanised or simply fitted with a new one? This raises so many questions!

    :confused: ...That just raises even more questions!

    Seriously, has the world gone mad, or just this Mother Star?

    Blank of emotion? You'd expect there to be something in an un-bonded child...

    Presumably the 'perfect' world he saw first was the dream, and the latter the reality.

    o_O And that just makes it so much creepier...

    So, something shattered their imagined world? Did the Starros believe they were bringing the dream to people, when it was actually the latter reality? Did... Did the Starros consider themselves to be helping people?

    And the contradiction between perceived and real drove them mad? Was this Dream of the Endless taking action to stop a perversion of his realm?

    Oh this is bad, isn't it?

    ...Was... Was that the birth of a Starro god? a Nightmare? :eek: What is going on?!

    Maybe... Maybe it eats the dreams of the people with Starros applied?

    Cue the trippy music.

    This feels like some trance writing or something... The Mother Star must be having one hell of a trip.

    Hopefully without contamination... I shudder at the thought of a Starro embodiment.

    It sounds concussed... I suppose it is, given the circumstances it's awakening in...

    ...Wat.

    And the spring's run down. Looks like it's gone.

    Meanwhile, what of Pluto? Is it cracked open like an egg, or was the Mother Star just laying under the surface? I think there's going to be repercussions from this...

    Once he works out what the hell just happened. Maybe the Ophidian was looking through the things he just saw?

    And it's nothing you'd care to repeat in polite company, I'm betting.

    Well, if it's comforting for him... Are you sure that's actually L-Ron, or just a dummy chassis, like some sort of body pillow?

    ...What? Wait, what are you talking about? Don't you have responsibilities to...

    ...Wow. Okay. Not even he's prepared to deal with Earth's bullshit. I guess there's not enough money in the universe to make it worth it?

    "No need to sound so disappointed, Illustres. If it's any comfort, I, Manga Khan, shall spread the word: If you come to Earth, be prepared for anything!"

    Well... Got to wonder how he'll write that up for his reports to Batman and Dox. If they didn't know him as well as they do, I suspect there'd be drug tests in his future. I suspect Dox is going to be annoyed at losing Manga Khan, too. And what happens to Venturia now?

    Could probably delete the I.
     
  26. Whenever Possible

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    Wait, so are mother stars "born" directly from the Dream when enough hosts are subsumed by Starro? The dreams/emotional energy that they would normally have catalyzes into the Mother?

    So they're actual gods, then, aren't they?
     
  27. RichardWhereat

    RichardWhereat Aia airëa Fëanáro.

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    Earth got a massive wake up call for how fucked they are without a unified government, and Paul got to chase off one of his lanterns who wasn't aiding his alliance under-the-sea. With a bunch of funny bits.
     
  28. Flux Casey

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    Okay... That happened last episode. Except then it was undone because the bad interstellar merchant left Earth never to return. Great job Justice League! Earth is in your debt once again! Now let's all go back to the status quo and pretend it didn't happen, as was established to be our problem when this situation cropped up in the first place!

    No he didn't. Manga Khan left of his own accord. Paul had nothing to do with him showing up, nothing to do with him leaving, and Manga Khan didn't actually do anything whatsoever in his entire time in the story except be comic relief.
     
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  29. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No.
    Thank you, corrected.
    No, this time the odd structure is intentional.
    Thank you, corrected.
     
  30. Vaermina

    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Pretty much.

    Welcome to the end result of continually nerfing things in a story so there's no real conflict.
     
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