With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Lord Ernest]

A Clea POV is pretty interesting, and if we are going to get POVs of the Light 2.0 I will be really happy. I do agree that she was in the right about the stuff with Aurania once you get all the facts, but I don't particularly understand why she's in Poseidonis now, though, or what her overall aim is now that Venturia is in this position. I can't even recall when she got together with Black Manta (good on him though, I imagine she's a pretty beautiful GILF, soon to be MILF, and if he's into femdom...).

 

[Darko]

A Clea POV is pretty interesting, and if we are going to get POVs of the Light 2.0 I will be really happy. I do agree that she was in the right about the stuff with Aurania once you get all the facts, but I don't particularly understand why she's in Poseidonis now, though, or what her overall aim is now that Venturia is in this position. I can't even recall when she got together with Black Manta (good on him though, I imagine she's a pretty beautiful GILF, soon to be MILF, and if he's into femdom...).

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I think she's in Poseidonis to strengthen her position in Atlantis and further the new Lights interest in that part of the world.

 

[Doccer]

Here.



He destroyed it in one of the previous chapters with Luna.

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Ah that. I didn't realize the ALE was Anti-Lofe Equation.
Thanks.
What about actual Grayven breaking free though?

 

[Darko]

What about actual Grayven breaking free though

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We know he's doing his own thing now, conquering people, but I don't think it was mentioned how he got away.

Either Darkseid let him go, or he slipped past him.

 

[Mr Zoat]

"The sovereign is above the law. Everyone else must abide by it,"

And that is why we got rid of the aristocracy. Everytime someone new comes into power you flip the coin for thousands or millions of lifes.

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I can't be completely sure about this as I don't know what country you're from, but I strongly suspect that it was more along the lines of the middle class wanting to be more powerful rather than a concerned campaign against powerful groups favouring themselves.

In Clea's case she isn't simply passing the throne onto her closest relative. Venturian monarchs designate their heir. Cyprian has been extensively vetted and tested.

Unacceptable.

And immortality means that one ruler's set of values and whims dictates things for eternity

I don't think I like her very much

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Yes, but you're a prole, so who cares?

 

[Handlewithcare]

I can't be completely sure about this as I don't know what country you're from, but I strongly suspect that it was more along the lines of the middle class wanting to be more powerful rather than a concerned campaign against powerful groups favouring themselves.

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It certainly began like that, but I think in the end it became more a case of airing old grievances.

With a guillotine.

Admittedly I should reformulate that: this is why getting rid of rulers that are above the law was and is a good idea

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In Clea's case she isn't simply passing the throne onto her closest relative. Venturian monarchs designate their heir. Cyprian has been extensively vetted and tested.

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Oh, wow, how reassuring for the average citizen.

Yes, but you're a prole, so who cares?

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[/QUOTE]

Until the unrest begins: no one. And then rulers suddenly are very quick to make up for lost time

 

[Coda]

But I might repent what I'm about to do now.

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Image has gone away, and I can't find any other instances of it.

 

[PDV]

So I should capitalise it? Okay.

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Doesn't really fix it, no. You need some qualifier. "The Member of Parliament" isn't better than "the member of Parliament".

 

[Pinklestia]

Well he is an Orange Lantern and a conquest god and he also has the personality

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There is nothing wrong with that since by Apokolips laws, he is indeed the ruler of the planet.

If he does it in a more subtle way, well he is making an army to defend his planet isn't he? He is also looking for a bride in Princess Luna.

 

[Mr Zoat]

21st January 2006
09:58 GMT -5

Komand'r beams at me through my communicator.

"And don't forget to say 'hi' to everyone for me! I can't wait to see them all again when I get back!"

And an uncertain dread begins to creep into my chest where my heart used to be.

"I certainly won't, darling."

Okay, I'm in public and she knows I'm in public. If that doesn't get a response-.

She beams wider, breathing in and clutching her hands to her chest. Then she mimes pulling her heart out of her chest, kissing it and then blowing it to me.

I mime catching it and then pressing it into my own chest. And now I'm genuinely worried. Setting Vega on fire didn't magically resurrect all of the dead Tamaranean doctors, and the only people who really knew anything about their physiology were the psions. They're no longer in a position to provide me with information. I mean, it's not impossible that we missed a data store somewhere, but Red Lanterns are generally pretty thorough.

Or rather, indiscriminate.

"I'll see you this evening."

I cut the connection and accelerate towards the giant 'T' of the Titan's tower. Perhaps surprisingly given the crisis that we just went through it's still in one piece, but I don't really get 'surprised' by this sort of nonsense anymore. Goodness, how many times in the last few years has it been wrecked one week and been fully repaired by the next? I guess one of those Wayne Enterprises warehouses is filled with spare Tower sections, so they can just slot them in when the old ones are destroyed.

I suppose it keeps money in circulation.

Maybe Komand'r's possessed? Miss Roth should be able to identify that with relative ease, and then it shouldn't be hard to exorcise. And what's the chance of her encountering a Tamaranean disease in Jump City that her sister hasn't caught? No, no, it'll be fine.

I land in front of the tower's main entrance and press the button to request access. While I doubt that Mr. Logan will be awake yet, and Mr. Stone is a coin toss, the other three are probably awake. And we should be on good enough terms that they'll at least talk to me.

Mr. Grayson's face appears on the screen.

"Hello? What do you want?"

"I have some information I should probably pass on concerning recent events. And… I… May need your help with something. May I come in?"

"Sure." The doors slide open, granting me access to the tower's antechamber. "Should I call in the team?"

"That won't be necessary. If I could just speak to yourself, Miss Roth and Koriand'r?"

"I'll let them know you're here."

"Thank you."

The screen goes black and I walk inside. I've been here a few times before, and it… Doesn't look like they've remodelled too much. Same clean lines and airy spaces. Dread to think what it costs to heat it, or if it's not much why they don't share the technology.

Mr. Grayson is waiting for me in the lounge, looking completely alert.

"Red Lantern. Raven should be here in a minute."

I nod. "Thank you. Though I'll let you know that as a result of events last week I've been promoted to Senior Lantern. And… It's fine if you use my name. I think we know each other well enough."

He raises his left eyebrow.

"Do you.. have a name?"

Huh?

"Of course I have a name. Did you think I was born with a power ring?"

"No, I guess not. So what-?"

An interior door opens and Miss Roth walks in, a mug of coffee floating along behind her. Her eyes narrow slightly as she looks at me.

"How are you still alive?"

"I understand that we have you and the magic of friendship to thank for that."

"I only resurrected the people Trigon killed. You tore your own heart out of your chest and smashed it into your Lantern. I'm pretty sure you should be dead."

"Blood magic."

She nods. "How.. does that work?"

"Lord Atrocitus uses blood magic to make our rings. Mine now pushes blood around my body. I don't need a heart any more."

She frowns. "What happens if you get distracted? Your constructs usually stop working when you stop being angry."

"I don't have that problem anymore. I got in touch with my rage and hate in a… Profound way." I hold out my right hand and generate a bit construct, switching it between its two states a handful of times before dismissing it.

"Huh. So what did you wanna talk about?"

"Komand'r and I are leaving Jump City. Long term this time. I originally came here because a seer of my acquaintance claimed that you were going to destroy the world, and since that's already happened I.. don't need to be here anymore."

She narrows her eyes at me. "You were supposed to stop Trigon."

"I was supposed to kill you."

Mr. Grayson's eye holes widen. "What?"

Miss Roth's face relaxes, and she nods slowly. "That would probably have worked. Why didn't you?"

"You're a good person. I couldn't think of anything you'd willingly do that could cause an apocalypse, and I wouldn't kill you for something someone else did." I shrug. "You'd have trouble finding demon cultists in North America anymore. They seem to… Have fallen down some stairs."

She risks a small smile. "All of them?"

"They were slippery stairs. I'd have done something about Slade if I'd known what was going on there." I shrug again. "But I imagine that Trigon could have used someone else. And if I had killed you, he'd just have sired a new child somewhere else. It's probably better this way."

She nods, a degree of animation returning to her face.

"Still a risk, though."

"You're worth it."

She regards me thoughtfully. "Why are you being nice about this?"

"Mostly because I'm not having to remind myself of all the ways you and yours irritate me in order to use my ring. It's a much more relaxing way to exist."

"Because you don't have a heart."

"Komand'r finds it weirder than I do. Which… Brings me to the other reason why I'm here." I half-turn to face Richard. "Komand'r has been acting… Strangely."

Miss Roth raises her eyebrows. "What, has she started being nice to people or something?"

"Yes, and it's weird. I'm worried-." Koriand'r flies out of the elevator. "Koriand'r, do you know of a disease that makes Tamaraneans change personality radically?"

"Ah?" She raises her right forefinger to her lips. "There are several things that could do that. Does Blackfire have any other symptoms?"

"She tried to toast some bread with her plasma vision this morning and accidentally froze it instead."

Koriand'r stares at me for a second, and then her face lights up in an expression of pure joy! "Oh that is wondrous news! I will now go to bake the niffka cakes and prepare the funny hats!"

"Okay, thank you, but what does it mean in English?"

"Blackfire is pregnant!"

 

[Lazurman]

Heheheheheheheh. Good for them!

 

[Taisei]

And yet again red lantern Paul proves to be the best version of himself.

 

[Hotcoco]

So I am just going to say I have caught up form this story from the story archive thread, and I am just going to say it was a very very long read and now that I am all caught up I can safely say that this story is one of my favorites

 

[Darko]

And don't forget to say 'hi' to everyone for me! I can't wait to see them all again when I get back!"

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That does not sound even one bit reassuring coming from the mouth of DC's Bitch Queen Supreme.

mimes puller

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'pulling'

Dread to think what it costs to heat it, or if it's not much why they don't share the technology

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If it's schizo tech then I'm betting it may require a lot of maintenance or the material to make it isn't abundant enough, so it can't be mass produced.

Of course I have a name. Did you think I was born with a power ring?"

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Well you did kinda come into this universe with a ring, so yeah.

Also im getting a feeling that these versions may be a copy of the Prime Earth version and that's why they can't say or think the name Paul.

They're technically not Prime Earth Paul, they're just copies with his memories.

And if you couldn't say your name and didn't spend much time with the Titans then there's no reason for them to know it.

Komand'r been acting…

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'Komand'r's been'

Komand'r finds it weirder than I do.

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Of course she finds it weirder than you.

You're a Paul.

What you find perfectly reasonable, others find weird as shit.

Okay, thank you, but what does it mean in English?"

"Blackfire is pregnant!"

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Congrats Red Daddy.

That kid is going to be so screwed up, what with growing up with a red ring version of Paul and Komand'r.

And another Paul gets enlightenment.

 

[Darko]

And yet again red lantern Paul proves to be the best version of himself.

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Common Sense Paul shall always be Best Paul.

 

[transhumansage]

sooooo.....it would be half human half tamaranean?

 

[BlueMangoAdea]

Is a hybrid between a human and a Tamaranean possible?

 

[Darko]

Is a hybrid between a human and a Tamaranean possible?

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Yep.

In one universe Dick and Kori had a kid named Mar'i Grayson.

 

[Cuchulin]

Yep.

In one universe Dick and Kori had a kid named Mar'i Grayson.

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A.K.A. Nightstar who looks a lot like her aunt.

 

[Darko]

A.K.A. Nightstar who looks a lot like her aunt.

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But fortunately for everyone, lacks her personality.

 

[Whenever Possible]

It's apparently a lot easier to reach enlightenment when incredibly powerful spiritual entities are involved, judging from Paul!ragon and Red Daddy.

That's not really a surprise, though

 

[Rebu]

"She tried to toast some bread with her plasma vision this morning and accidentally froze it instead."

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The faint hint of gamma radiation makes it spicy!

 

[Darko]

It's apparently a lot easier to reach enlightenment when incredibly powerful spiritual entities are involved, judging from Paul!ragon and Red Daddy.

That's not really a surprise, though

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Maybe, though it may prove to also be very, very dangerous.

Before Paul got enlightened he had the Ophidian running around inside of him and he was lucky that she didn't turn everyone into constructs.

I'm dreading to think what the Butcher would have done.

 

[Chojin Patriarch]

21st January 2006
09:58 GMT -5

Komand'r beams at me through my communicator.

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Ah, Raul. may your endless frustrated rage at being stuck in a kid's show never wane. That's a fair crack along since the last sighting too, what's been happening, I wonder?

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"And don't forget to say 'hi' to everyone for me! I can't wait to see them all again when I get back!"

And an uncertain dread begins to creep into my chest where my heart used to be.

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...There's a thing in Worm that would be useful here: Master/Stranger protocols - confinement due to out-of-character behaviour. Should we be invoking that now?

"I certainly won't, darling."

Okay, I'm in public and she knows I'm in public. If that doesn't get a response-.

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The normal response should either be embarrassment and sideways glances... Or her image jumping out and trying to bite your head off (ineffectually...)

She beams wider, breathing in and clutching her hands to her chest. Then she mimes puller her heart out of her chest, kissing it and then blowing it to me.

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...Oh hell, is this some Tamaranean puberty thing? Is she going to be exhibiting all manner of odd physical quirks for the next while?

I mime catching it and then pressing it into my own chest. And now I'm genuinely worried. Setting Vega on fire didn't magically resurrect all of the dead Tamaranian doctors, and the only people who really knew anything about their physiology were the psions. They're no longer in a position to provide me with information. I mean, it's not impossible that we missed a data store somewhere, but Red Lanterns are generally pretty thorough.

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Hmm... How 'on fire' is Vega? Could it be more on fire? Because the general quality of the races there tends to deserve it... Barring the occasional 'nice' peoples like the Tamaraneans...

Or rather, indiscriminate.

"I'll see you this evening."

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Hopefully you can find out whether you'll need the straitjacket... Or the power nullifier chains...

I cut the connection and accelerate towards the giant 'T' of the Titan's tower. Perhaps surprisingly given the crisis that we just went through it's still in one piece, but I don't really get 'surprised' by this sort of nonsense anymore. Goodness, how many times in the last few years has it been wrecked one week and been fully repaired by the next? I guess one of those Wayne Enterprises warehouses is filled with spare Tower sections, so they can just slot them in when the old ones are destroyed.

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For all we know, some genius somewhere perfected repair ray-guns that literally reverse temporal flow for inanimate objects, restoring them to perfect condition... And then patented, mass-produced and sold them, then retired somewhere tropical on the proceeds.

I suppose it keeps money in circulation.

Maybe Komand'r's possessed? Miss Roth should be able to identify that with relative ease, and then it shouldn't be hard to exorcise. And what's the chance of her encountering a Tamaranian disease in Jump City that her sister hasn't caught? No, no, it'll be fine.

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To be fair, Tamaranean diseases are at least polite about their lack of jumping species lines. Can you imagine what some of them could to do Humans? Besides giving temporary superpowers...

I land in front of the tower's main entrance and press the button to request access. While I doubt that Mr. Logan will be awake yet, and Mr. Stone is a coin toss, the other three are probably awake. And we should be on good enough terms that they'll at least talk to me.

Mr. Grayson's face appears on the screen.

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There's a step up from prior events, at least. They're at least willing to welcome him into the tower... Grudgingly.

"Hello? What do you want?"

"I have some information I should probably pass on concerning recent events. And… I… May need your help with something. May I come in?"

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Politeness, the last thing anyone would expect from a Red Lantern... Say, are those coloured Quotation marks new? What's been happening?

"Sure." The doors slide open, granting me access to the tower's antechamber. "Should I call in the team?"

"That won't be necessary. If I could just speak to yourself, Miss Roth and Koriand'r?"

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And look at that. Not a single punch needed to be thrown. Progress! I suspect it's a step up from most supervillain visits.

"I'll let them know you're here."

"Thank you."

The screen goes black and I walk inside. I've been here a few times before, and it… Doesn't look like they've remodelled too much. Same clean lines and airy spaces. Dread to think what it costs to heat it, or if it's not much why they don't share the technology.

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I agree with Darko, it's probably schizo-tech. Probably some refinement of Captain Cold's Cold Gun, with an inversion effect applied. Or maybe Raven has a magic spell to keep it comfortable.. for normal people.

Mr. Grayson is waiting for me in the longue, looking completely alert.

"Red Lantern. Raven should be here in a minute."

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Exercising her goddess-given female right to take her time? I mean, it can't take that long to pick out a leotard and cape...

I nod. "Thank you. Though I'll let you know that as a result of events last week I've been promoted to Senior Lantern. And… It's fine if you use my name. I think we know each other well enough."

He raises his left eyebrow.

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Umm, Raul, have you ever told them your name, or attempted to? Or is this going to be a chance to use that Robin social link to get an official version, like OL did?

"Do you.. have a name?"

Huh?

"Of course I have a name. Did you think I was born with a power ring?"

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Well... Technically, you didn't exist before you arrived, ring on finger (and napalm in your blood...) Man, that must have been an exciting morning.

"No, I guess not. So what-?"

An interior door opens and Miss Roth walks in, a mug of coffee floating along behind her. Her eyes narrow slightly as she looks at me.

"How are you still alive?"

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Well, we can guess how much of a morning person she is, can't we?

"I understand that we have you and the magic of friendship to thank for that."

"I only resurrected the people Trigon killed. You tore your own heart out of your chest and smashed it into your Lantern. I'm pretty sure you should be dead."

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...Dayum. Okay, that would have been an amazing episode to read. But... Putting your heart in your lantern? That sounds like basic training for a Red Lantern...

"Blood magic."

She nods. "How.. does that work?"

"Lord Atrocitus uses blood magic to make our rings. Mine now pushes blood around my body. I don't need a heart any more."

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...That has some pretty significant drawbacks. What if you run out of Ring Charge? What if your anger gets nullified (Okay, Enlightenment would prevent that, but still...)

She frowns. "What happens if you get distracted? Your constructs usually stop working when you stop being angry."

"I don't have that problem anymore. I got in touch with my rage and hate in a… Profound way." I hold out my right hand and generate a bit construct, switching it between its two states a handful of times before dismissing it.

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So, much like the Policeman in Renegade's timeline, or Dr. Banner, you're always angry? I suppose it makes you a lot more mellow, at least.

"Huh. So what did you wanna talk about?"

"Komand'r and I are leaving Jump City. Long term this time. I originally came here because a seer of my acquaintance claimed that you were going to destroy the world, and since that's already happened I.. don't need to be here anymore."

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The whole Trigon event played out, eh? Wonder how big a part he played, beyond rage-punching Ol' Four-eyes in the nose a lot? Wonder if Raven's wearing the White outfit or not...

She narrows her eyes at me. "You were supposed to stop Trigon."

"I was supposed to kill you."

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Hello! I'm guessing he decided 'Fuck Destiny' was the better option, clearly. And being outside Destiny's Book as he is, I have no doubt he had no difficulties.

Mr. Grayson's eye holes widen. "What?"

Miss Roth's face relaxes, and she nods slowly. "That would probably have worked. Why didn't you?"

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Boy, she's just as mellow as he is, it seems. Then again, she was always expecting to die anyway, wasn't she?

"You're a good person. I couldn't think of anything you'd willingly do that could cause an apocalypse, and I wouldn't kill you for something someone else did." I shrug. "You'd have trouble finding demon cultists in North America anymore. They seem to… Have fallen down some stairs."

She risks a small smile. "All of them?"

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That must have taken a while. Especially the ones living in single-story houses.

"They were slippery stairs. I'd have done something about Slade if I'd known what was going on there." I shrug again. "But I imagine that Trigon could have used someone else. And if I had killed you, he'd just have sired a new child somewhere else. It's probably better this way."

She nods, a degree of animation returning to her face.

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Yeah, Trigon does tend to take the long view of matters. There's always a lady down to bone the Devil somewhere.

"Still a risk, though."

"You're worth it."

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And that says a lot about the way things played out, and Raul's character. Sure, he could have killed her and delayed the apocalypse another generation. But he doesn't kill innocents.

She regards me thoughtfully. "Why are you being nice about this?"

"Mostly because I'm not having to remind myself of all the ways you and yours irritate me in order to use my ring. It's a much more relaxing way to exist."

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Ha! He really is more mellow. I wonder if a Paul who landed in 'Teen Titans Go!' would have gained Enlightenment in the first week just from that...

"Because you don't have a heart."

"Komand'r finds it weirder than I do. Which… Brings me to the other reason why I'm here." I half-turn to face Richard. "Komand'r been acting… Strangely."

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"Define 'strangely'." After all, TT Tamaraneans are weird. I mean, yes, we know she's acting oddly, but I could see them offering that response.

Miss Roth raises her eyebrows. "What, has she started being nice to people or something?"

"Yes, and it's weird. I'm worried-." Koriand'r flies out of the elevator. "Koriand'r, do you know of a disease that makes Tamaranians change personality radically?"

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There are probably three or four at least. Hopefully it's not contagious.

"Ah?" She raises her right forefinger to her lips. "There are several things that could do that. Does Blackfire have any other symptoms?"

"She tried to toast some bread with her plasma vision this morning and accidentally froze it instead."

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...What. Just... What. Are you sure she hasn't been replaced by a Bizarro?

Koriand'r stares at me for a second, and then her face lights up in an expression of pure joy! "Oh that is wondrous news! I will now go to bake the niffka cakes and prepare the funny hats!"

"Okay, thank you, but what does it mean in English?"

"Blackfire is pregnant!"

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... ... Congratulations, Raul. You might want to invest in Promethium toys for the baby, it or they are likely to have some terrifying tantrums...

Well, that's a surprise. I mean, it's not like they haven't been chaste or anything, so nature took its course. How can they have a child together? Blame the White Light Entity! At any rate, Raul is gonna have some thinking to do, it seems. Mostly on whether he'll be a good father, that kind of thing, most likely.

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Mr. Grayson is waiting for me in the longue, looking completely alert.

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Mr. Grayson is waiting for me in the lounge, looking completely alert.

 

[Chaoswind]

If Raúl cleaned house in Vega does that mean that the red lantern core has encountered the big orange?

 

[Mr Zoat]

'pulling'
'Komand'r's been'

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A.K.A. Nightstar who looks a lot like her aunt.

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Not really.

Mr. Grayson is waiting for me in the lounge, looking completely alert.

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Thank you, corrected.

If Raúl cleaned house in Vega does that mean that the red lantern core has encountered the big orange?

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No, he was content to leave Larfleeze to his cave.

 

[Razorfloss]

Well, that's a surprise. I mean, it's not like they haven't been chaste or anything, so nature took its course. How can they have a child together? Blame the White Light Entity! At any rate, Raul is gonna have some thinking to do, it seems. Mostly on whether he'll be a good father, that kind of thing, most likely.

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Humans and tamera are capable of breeding together see nightstar Nightwing and Starfires daughter. Humans are the dittos of the dc verse and can breed with just about everything. Also

 

[Darko]

Oh hell, is this some Tamaranean puberty thing? Is she going to be exhibiting all manner of odd physical quirks for the next while?

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Nope, she already went through it.

When Kori was going through her puberty she mentioned her sister turned purple during hers.

This was probably before she betrayed her people and sold her sister.

Hopefully you can find out whether you'll need the straitjacket... Or the power nullifier chains...

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Given Komand'r's personality, even if her personality hasn't suddenly changed, it might be a good idea to have those things near you.

And look at that. Not a single punch needed to be thrown. Progress! I suspect it's a step up from most supervillain visits.

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He's technically not a supervillain.

Anti-hero or anti-villain is I think a more accurate description.

Or maybe Raven has a magic spell to keep it comfortable.. for normal people.

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Or it adjusts itself to what a person views to be comfortable.

Umm, Raul, have you ever told them your name, or attempted to?

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Nope.

Or is this going to be a chance to use that Robin social link to get an official version, like OL did?

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I doubt it.

Paragon and Robin were friendly at least, these two, not so much.

Ha! He really is more mellow. I wonder if a Paul who landed in 'Teen Titans Go!' would have gained Enlightenment in the first week just from that...

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I think he'll have the Butcher running around and be too angry to focus on enlightenment.

Define 'strangely'." After all, TT Tamaraneans are weird.

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And Komand'r is a nutcase.

Mostly on whether he'll be a good father, that kind of thing, most likely.

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And potentially if he and Komand'r, a red lantern and borderline sociopath Tamaranean, should raise him alone, at all, or ask for help from someone so they can prevent him from becoming a potential warmonger.

Auntie Kori anyone.

Assuming Komand'r let's her near the kid.

 

[Handlewithcare]

And then the shock of the knews disrupted his heart construct and he keeled over instantly dead

Red Paul as a Dad: I'm not disappointed. Just angry. Very, very angfry. All the time!

Also: I suppose it keeps money in circulation.

That's the Broken Window Fallacy, right?

 

[moralrelativity]

So I am just going to say I have caught up form this story from the story archive thread, and I am just going to say it was a very very long read and now that I am all caught up I can safely say that this story is one of my favorites

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Welcome aboard!