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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Or am I just getting ratioed?
     
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    Vaermina Well worn.

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    Yes, which is why I said it was unlikely he actually get's one.
     
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    There's little fanfare as the soldiers and civilians leave my large transportation construct and enter the city. I had to excavate a passage through the ash piles, but there's air and light inside so they'll live.

    Though to be honest this sounds more like a mistake than an act of malice, the local ruler's bias notwithstanding.

    I exhale slowly.

    How do you..? Alright, we had the Year Without A Summer, so no one was stupid enough to test-nuke a supervolcano on Earth. And they almost certainly bought the weapon from outside, so… So they knew there was a volcano there, because they had to know where to put the explosive. But maybe they didn't fully grok it? Because… They didn't have that experience. That exposure. The only thing they could compare it to was one of the continent's smaller active volcanoes.

    I wonder-? I mean, I'm never going to agree with Starfleet or anything, but I can't help but wonder how many inhabited worlds… Die, like this. A supervolcano goes off, or there's a mutation in a virus or bacterium that sends it rampant, or… I don't know, a geomagnetic reversal on a world inhabited by a species that has a magnetic sense. And everything.. just… Dies. Selling tactical weapons wouldn't really matter, even… Strategic weapons. But a seller probably wouldn't think to say 'don't put this on a supervolcano'.

    I wave as Razer and Ilana approach.

    "The Dal was kind enough to give me a lead. Did you learn anything?"

    Ilana smiles. "It's interesting to meet people from so far away."

    Razer grimaces. "It seems strange that so many people go to fight and die for so little."

    I attach filaments to them and rise into the air. "Perhaps it seems like a big deal to them."

    "No, it didn't. They just seem to think it was inevitable that war would be the result."

    "On my world, two cities once went to war over a bucket. Though we've pretty much phased that sort of thing out."

    Ilana looks interested. "How did your people do that?"

    "We developed an economy where buckets aren't so valuable." She looks at me uncertainly. "That-. That was a joke. It was a combination of very deadly weapons being commonly available, and our economies becoming so interdependent and fragile that killing large numbers of fighting age men risked completely destroying the participating civilisations. Ah, plus nationalism, which increasingly made compelling a conquered population to obey too expensive to countenance because people would rather die than give their conquerors anything. You have to really hate someone to invade them under those circumstances."

    "Oh."

    "And we do, just less often."

    She bows her head slightly as I fly us out of the force field, everything going dark as we leave. "You were serious about interstellar space not being 'peaceful'."

    "Is that sort of ruthlessness common?"

    "A-ah…"

    I look up into the blackness as we accelerate.

    "I can't.. claim.. to have studied every extant civilisation, but yes."

    Ilana looks understandably downcast. "That's terrible."

    "You can't really assess terribleness in isolation. I mean, we've got this universe, but if we don't have another universe to compare it to, we can't really say that it's worse. Maybe this is as good as it can get."

    Ilana looks understandably more downcast. "That's terrible."

    Razer nods. "And now I'm imagining somewhere worse."

    "It's good practice. Before today, I'd never seen a supervolcano go off. I mean, I've seen worlds bombarded to death from orbit, but there's something about the sheer scale of nature's wrath that marks it out."

    She frowns. "What happens if someone does this to the other three after you leave?"

    "Hopefully by then you have a Green Lantern assigned to this Sector, and they step in and fix it. More hopefully-"

    Orange light strobes out, projecting a display of the canyon we're flying over onto the clouds below us.

    "-everyone learns enough from this to know that blowing up supervolcanoes is a bad idea for everyone. Please bear in mind that this is the best lead I have on the Butcher's blood, and the people here may not be entirely rational."

    Razer makes a very quiet exhalation. "When compared to everyone else?"

    Ilana favours him with a curious look, which prompts another exhalation.

    "I thought that the people who intended to invade our homes were in some way unique. I thought that joining the militia was the best way to protect you. And I would have killed them, and then travelled to their city to ensure that they could not send another army."

    She takes hold of his hands. "They probably felt the same about their wives."

    "It's harder to kill someone when you know their name. Perhaps we should make more of an effort to get to know our neighbours."

    "Good idea. Going down now. Oh, and-." I take a book out of subspace and translate it into their language before passing it to Razer. "This is how my planet's first global war happened a hundred years ago. You may find that some parts sound familiar." He cautiously takes the book. "Basically, don't do any of that."

    "Thank you. I will make sure to avoid your planet a hundred years ago."

    "Ah, also, don't go there now. We've got this thing with suicide magic-"

    A volley of arrows fly in our general direction from the walls, either missing due to the ash or hitting my construct shield. The ash fall is much less bad here, and I can see where the air currents are diverting the majority of it around the mountains. Still not easy to see, but it's 'foggy' rather than 'Kahndaqi insect plague'.

    "-and a giant robot god. Hello! We come in peace!"

    Razer raises his new book slightly.

    "Nearly! We'd really appreciate the opportunity to talk to whoever's in charge about the volcanic eruption!"

    "No room here!"

    Ilana puts her right hand on my left.

    "He thinks we're here for shelter. There is no need to fight him."

    "The great thing about being really strong is that it's not really a fight. I am strong enough to disable most of my opponents without causing them lasting injury. But you are correct."

    I thicken the shield a little, just in case they've put an anti-air weapon on the walls, then float us into easy visual distance of the people on the top of the wall.

    "And when I say 'appreciate', I mean 'do it now'."
     
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  4. Darko

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    "We've got"
     
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    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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  6. ptb_ptb

    ptb_ptb Getting out there.

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    So, does the MC not actually know that he has just lied*, or do you not look at the links you post?

    * To be more accurate, Wikipedia doesn't quite say "Some places say that the war was started over a stolen bucket, but this is obvious bullshit as made clear in the more reliable sources". Wikipedia is more weasel-worded than that, but given the options of "war over bucket" Vs "war where bucket was taken as trophy after it was won" it's pretty clear that the latter is the more plausible while the former makes a better story.
     
  7. Chojin Patriarch

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    Never make a final conclusion before you've gathered all the facts, OL. For all you know, Dal Cryoncus losing his son (presumably his eldest?) drove him mad. Reasonably possible, given the way he threw aside his wife and their children together...

    And there may well have been worse periods in the past when weather observations weren't so well-recorded. Earth's slightly irregular orbit does lead to periods of long cold or hot conditions, after all.

    The hard part for some of those would be even identifying that they're imminent. Some, you might now even learn about until long after they're underway...

    No local legends of mysterious 'rage places' or the like?

    Boy, their outlooks couldn't be more different, eh? She's all 'wow, so interesting' while he's 'damn, people are stupid everywhere.'

    I mean, sometimes, you can see the avalanche coming, and all you can do is try to dig in and wait it out... Or sometimes, you can strike first and make it happen in a way beneficial to you.

    ...Still not the strangest war anyone's fought.

    Sooner or later, we'll work out that it's easier to just turn it all into a sport...

    And thankfully never on the same scale since.

    Razer asking the real important questions.

    I mean, OL was that ruthless for a while. Then he decided to try and be nicer.

    Such is life.

    ...Well, it's not like OL's really bothered to look at the Anti-Matter universe in any detail outside of Qward and maybe Earth -16.

    Referring to the Psion Wombworld's glassing, eh? And as I've said before, Mother nature is scarier.

    ...Let's hope the rookies don't wash out, then.

    I mean, you haven't really met anyone from elsewhere other than OL yet, have you? And individuals can be plenty sensible. It's just people that are... Idiots.

    And now we see how he could have called down a Red Ring in his grief and rage...

    See, that sort of attitude is how you unite a race. A pity not everyone feels the same way.

    And yes, the origins of World War I are as messy and confused as they appear. An ugly combination of alliances, racial tensions and two lucky gunshots that ended up killing millions of young men... :(

    Ah, yes. This is why they thought they could get away with it, eh? Natural defences against both mortals and weather.

    I mean, a nice, thick history book could stop an arrow...

    ...The Ring translator is working right, isn't it?

    If they pissed OL off, it wouldn't be a fight. It'd be a stomp.

    Ah, yes. Nothing like being intimidating than casually flying through hostile fire and asking nicely.

    Now, let's see how they respond to a polite request. Because even the dumbest city guard isn't going to argue with a flying, glowing Lantern. Even one of an unfamiliar colour. So it's a safe bet we'll get to meet the leader implicated in this bit of genocidal idiocy, and get to see him get a stern talking to.



    "He thinks we're here for shelter.
     
  8. Ngamer11

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    Is that on purpose? Or should that say 'imagining'.
     
  9. Vaermina

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    He likely knows and doesn't care.

    This MC likes to make himself out to be the smartest person in the room by pulling up stories using historical and or comic information that support whatever point he is trying to make when he is giving a superiority lecture because nobody is able to fact check him on said stories to call him on his bullshit.
     
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  10. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    seems -> seem
     
  11. TodaBruh

    TodaBruh Fiction is life's spice <( ̄︶ ̄)↗

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    He flexing! But is it weird that I find it bizarre for this Paul to use such overt commands?
     
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  12. Duke Long

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    Is the extra empty line deliberate?
    Didn’t he see Yellowstone go off? I guess he stopped it quickly so maybe it doesn’t count.
     
  13. Old Knife

    Old Knife Not too sore, are you?

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    If this doesn't make them want an Orange ring. Nothing will.

    Razor for Red Lantern!
     
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  14. AmericanNumbers

    AmericanNumbers Not too sore, are you?

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    The effect of the Butcher's blood might make every just a tiny bit more terse and prone to anger and that may be affecting Paul.
     
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  15. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
    He didn't read the full article, but he's also saying it for emphasis.
     
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  16. Sojiko

    Sojiko Getting sticky.

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    Who is this and what did he do with Paul?
     
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  17. Rafin

    Rafin Not too sore, are you?

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    There's extra space in between these lines.
    My mother has this saying: "Don't spoil a good story with the truth". It's not how I roll, but I do understand the idea behind it.
     
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  18. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
     
  19. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Know what you're doing yet?

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    Just my 2c Mr Zoat, don't just give them a book leading up to the world wars, but at least cover the political and social aftermath after they ended. Don't just be a downer and what not to do, but how to recover and what to do after.
     
  20. PDV

    PDV Revelation That Uncertainty Is Itself An Answer

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    Which book is it? The Guns of August?
     
  21. Bramble Thorn

    Bramble Thorn Verified Silhouette

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    He didn't give them both World Wars, just the first one.
    And the "how to recover and what to do after" the winners did there is what set up the second one.
     
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  22. Zig

    Zig Not too sore, are you?

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    Lucky he's been to / met people from others
     
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    I think I’ve somehow skipped this update once or twice when doing a reread. Or I’m tired enough that it doesn’t really register. But looking at it now… I find it to be quite sweet! It is nice to see this side of Paul and the back and forth with his partner. I don’t know how proud you are of your dynamics between Paul and Guy or Paul and Alan, but this update’s relationship beats are just as lovely as those.
     
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    There was only one word war, it's just that it was fought in two parts.
     
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    Mr Zoat

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    "Stop."

    The small beaver-like alien before me both looks and sounds serious, but I admit that I'm having a little difficulty taking someone the size of an actual beaver entirely seriously. I mean, sure, that's an indigo staff and power ring and he's probably had them both for a while, but…

    But he'd fit right in on the Equestria side of the portal without changing shape.

    "So they do come in other colours. I thought you were chasing starlight."

    Amon Sur's ship is hanging back a little. That… I'm not sure what to do about him in the longer term. The Earth Defence Force is probably going to have a hostile encounter with the Black Circle eventually, and then we'll have to exterminate them. But for now we just don't have any interstellar trade, so there's nothing for them to raid. For him personally? Once I've completed this task, I'll have enough time on my hands that I could offer him an orange ring and an apprenticeship.

    Might be worth killing off the rest of the Black Circle first

    Wait a minute. This beaver looks… Wasn't there a beaver who fought against Lantern Ch'p? I don't remember what he was called

    Sinestro?

    The only beaver-like creature I have a file on is one Doctor Ub'x. He was a criminal technologist. My organic self bought equipment from him on two occasions.

    I smile. "Lantern Ub'x, I presume. What is it that you want me to stop?"

    "I want you to stop trying to find us. Did you really think that we don't keep an eye on Lantern Jordan? And Amon Sur?"

    "The first, I wasn't sure. The second, I assumed that you didn't, because if you did then it would have been logical for you to offer him a ring."

    "No it wouldn't. You know that we exist but you clearly don't know what we are."

    "You have a power ring, which is indigo. Therefore-."

    "I mean that you don't know why Abin Sur created this organisation. Or why I'm part of it."

    "According to my sources you used to be an arms trader. It seems like you'd be the sort of person due for a little indigo light based reformation."

    "No, I went to the Indigo Lantern Corps voluntarily in order to… Earn redemption, I suppose. I went of my own free will, which is why I can have this conversation with you. How do you know I exist?"

    "I've had access to parallel universes. The Indigo Lantern Corps isn't secret in all of them."

    "No, not the Corps. Me, personally. Though I suppose that the answer is probably the same."

    "Yes. Why, is there something special about you?"

    He snorts with amusement. "I suppose not. So, what do you want with the Indigo Lantern Corps, Grayven of Apokolips?"

    "I'm trying to help a pony corrupted by evil magic."

    "I might be able to help, but our rings are only intended for particular types of people."

    "No, no, I'm not suggesting him as a candidate. I need someone who can blast them with elemental compassion at the same time as six of us fire other colours of ring at him."

    "That seems like a rather convoluted way of killing someone."

    "No, no, no, it won't kill them. I'm pretty sure that combining the colours together will produce white light, the essence of life itself. And that will hopefully do away with the evil magic."

    "The essence of life-? That doesn't sound like a good idea."

    "No, it's perfectly safe. No risk of supercharging bacteria or giving people super-cancer."

    "No, I mean, bringing that sort of power into the universe. There must be all sorts of ways that something like that could go horribly wrong."

    "Look, there'll be seven Lanterns, one of whom will be me. Plus whatever escort I think is worth taking. If you're not going to use your power to help people then what's the point of even having it?"

    "That's something that I never thought-"

    "Ask him about my sister's murderer!"

    "-I'd hear an Apokoliptian say."

    "I've had an interesting life. So… What happened to Iroque? I assume that Abin Sur used her as a lab rat."

    "She is serving the Corps as a Penitent. I assume that Amon Sur is shouting about how much he wants her dead?"

    "Actually, he's being-"

    "She's alive?! I want her dead!"

    "-surprisingly.. restrained. I assume that she's brainwashed by the indigo light?"

    "That's not precisely how it works. She can only feel compassion, but that doesn't change her underlying thought processes. Not directly, anyway. It's more a form of exposure-therapy, while her body is essentially… Little more than a puppet of the indigo light."

    "Ah." I nod approvingly. "Slavery. To be maintained until the real mind learns to rejoice in obedience. I think that we should ensure that my father never reaches Nok."

    "She's a slave?"

    I smile at Dr. Ub'x.

    "Would you excuse me for a moment?"

    "Oh, so he is demanding her death."

    "Yes, obviously."

    "Then by all means."

    I raise Sinestro to my mouth. "Yes, she's a brainwashed slave doing eternal community service."

    "Does she suffer?"

    "How often was your father wounded in the line of duty."

    "Hm."

    I lower my hand and return my attention to the magical beaver. "So are you willing to help with the pony, or do I have to track Nok down and ask someone else?"

    "How many colours do you still need?"

    "Ah… Depends whether Ganthet gets back to me or not. I don't actually have anyone for blue, but assuming-"

    Incoming message-. Ow. Ow.

    "-that he comes through… Excuse me a moment again. Yes?"

    The face-. Of an elderly man stares back at me. Can't see the body, but the eyes… There's a sort of placid focus to them, unmoved but not unconcerned by the universe.

    "Grayven. You have requested the use of a device that you should not know exists. How did you hear of it?"

    "Not all parallel universes run to the same timeline. One of your alts has got it working."

    "Did he have a Lantern?"

    "Think he gave it to Jordan, actually. And some guy called Bro'Dee Walker, but he won't have undergone the trials that turned him into a good Blue Lantern yet. Ah… There was a guy called Warth, don't know if he's in the right mental place."

    I shrug.

    "So how about it?"

    "My research has not yet yielded a prototype, but I shall certainly bear those names in mind."

    "Are you likely to be able to get a prototype..? Anytime soon?"

    "No. It has been some time since I have been able to spend time on a side project. It is pleasant to know that I will eventually be successful, but my responsibilities are unlikely to decrease. But don't worry; as a New God you will most likely live to see my project's eventual completion. I will let you know when I am finally successful."

    His face vanishes.

    "No blue light, then? Can I get on with my day?"

    Hm.

    "No, I… Think I can still manage."
     
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    So in this universe they're criminals and psychopaths/sociopaths who want to become better and use the Indigo Light to ensure that they don't relapse.

    Yeah, life isn't necessarily always a good thing.

    That's not a ringing endorsement, renegade.

    Beaver boy must have some premonition.

    "the use of a"
     
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    Ah, Ub'x. Well, Doctor Ub'X, to use his full title. And the one Indigo Lantern we've previously seen, over in the Paragon timeline, way back when. It seems the Renegade's investigation is hitting close to home if one of them has come to meet him...

    The joy of a universe where there are actual cartoon-style talking anthropomorphic animals. Hell, multiple worlds of them.

    Better than letting him join his uncle. But he'll need fairly constant supervision to make sure he doesn't backslide.

    Yup. That's his in-universe origin. I can't find anything suggesting he was ever a canon Indigo Corpsman.

    Of course, that was in Earth-50. But most things tend to be consistent between parallels, outside of Earth.

    Given one is the successor of Abin Sur's Ring, and the other is his son? I'd be disappointed if they weren't.

    Huh, they don't forcibly recruit irredeemable sociopaths, serial murderers and complete monsters?

    Evidently there are some differences, then. Care to elucidate?

    ...Interesting. I have to wonder how many other recruits did so voluntarily.

    Perceptive, isn't he? No doubt he's fully aware the Renegade is packing both Orange and Yellow Rings... And there's only one wielder of the Yellow Light in this universe so far.

    He's certainly well-informed, at least.

    ...Not sure it'll really help in that sense, sadly.

    Hey, it works for the Ponies, they've done it a few times over recent years and no-one's died from it. ...They might wish they had, but it's largely non-lethal.

    If only for the fact that that power unleashed will draw the attention of things you don't want to have the attention of.

    Especially when said power seems to operate on its own recognisance more often than not. Seriously, the White Light seems more... Alive than most of the other lights, naturally.

    And annoyingly, the light of Compassion is probably whispering in Ub'X's ear even now.

    He's got a point. Inheriting Grayven's reputation hasn't always been beneficial, after all.

    Ah, you can see his Rage all the way back there? Good eyes.

    Hush up, sonny. the adults are talking.

    o_O ...Fascinating.

    ...That's probably a good point. And I'm suddenly reminded of the third Lego Batman game, which featured the Lanterns as a major part of the plot...

    A little hard to hold a pleasant conversation with Amon barking in your ear?

    Quite loudly. Honestly, I'm amazed he hasn't damaged his throat yet...

    Though I do wonder if it's by her own choice, or if Abin Sur forcibly signed her on...

    ...I'm guessing often. Abin didn't seem the sort to back off in the face of personal danger.

    And the way he's going, he'd have managed it sooner or later.

    And whether he's willing to admit to working on it.

    ...Interesting reaction. Whatever's coming through must have some serious gain on its transmitter.

    Why, hello, Ganthet. :p Were your ears burning? They were just talking about you.

    Or rather, a Central Power Battery? The latter would make things much easier on that front.

    Warth, for the record. If you've seen a Ganesh-looking fellow in pics of the Blues, that's him.

    ...Well, shit. Hey, Renegade, how's that connection to Earth-50 looking?

    Somehow, I don't think that'll be needed. The Blue Lanterns are likely to make quite the splash when they debut.

    ...Remember, the Renegade does have access to alternate Earths.

    It might just take a few calls.

    So, one (conditional) success, one setback. Looks like the Renegade's search is proving just as troublesome as OL's. Still, I'm sure they'll find a way to manage it. Would be frustrating if they got six of seven, only to get cock-blocked on the last colour. Let's just hope the White Light will be amenable to the uses each plans to make of it...



    "You have a power ring, which is indigo. Therefore-."
     
  28. Dur'id the Druid

    Dur'id the Druid Know what you're doing yet?

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    Hence why I say to give history to both, and some time after. Wise men learn from others mistakes and all that. Also Paul needs to give them some hope, or they won't need the blood to be just as vicious.
     
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  29. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    They may do.

    Maybe Abin had some standards and didn't want to enslave people.

    Or maybe following the creation of the tribe the brainwashing worked too well and the new recruits didn't want to enslave people anymore.

    Plus willing recruits are more practical.

    If a forced recruit lost his ring or ran out of power then they'd have a sociopath that wants to make up for lost time, but a willing recruit is more likely to embrace the compassion.

    True, but their thing was a bit different.

    Judging by the doctor here, it could have been voluntary on her behalf.

    Though it's possible that the first recruit was forcibly conscripted and they later changed their policy.
     
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  30. DAT_NOOB

    DAT_NOOB Accused of writing in a far away land

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    It makes me wonder What he thought about Paragon Paul getting one working.
     
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