With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Let's hope he doesn't lose best earring. Come to think of it. Sinestro suddenly talking to Luna might freak her a bit.

 

Two episodes totalling forty chapters, or two episodes of 40 chapters each?

 

Two episodes totaling into 40 chapters along with some parts about alternate SI's and paragon chapters.
At least i think it will be this.

 

TIL that the English separated the original meaning of villain into an alternative spelling.
Here in France, "vilain" still means both "peasant" and "being mean" (although both are out of fashion).

 

Okay. So Luna/Grayven otp.

 

[Because-He-Is-A-Troll-Zoat]Yes.[/Because-He-Is-A-Troll-Zoat]
[Also-Zoat-Still-A-Troll]SI doesn't know.[/Also-Zoat-Still-A-Troll]

 

IIRC Sombra has fear-inducing and other mindfuckery powers. Between the yellow ring and anti-life taint, his metaphysical presence probably feels just like Sombra's.

 

From context, I'd actually infer less the Dresden Files concept of Mantling and more something like what's found in the Elder Scrolls, where someone adopts a divine role hard enough that even the original entity they're mantling starts to be affected and changed in some fashion by their influence on the mythology surrounding it as a primer to the mortals ascension (as happened with Talos) to a novel divine role of their own, or potentially supplanting/subsuming the original entity entirely. To "walk like them until they must walk like you", in a way the direct converse of Dresden Files Mantles, stealing power and authority from and imposing something of mortal nature on the entity being 'mantled'.

Obviously it's not a perfect comparison to Grayven's actual situation with Conquest, but I can see why the term gets invoked.

 

Still fairly convinced nothing even remotely like manteling is canon to WTR, at least for NG powers. Perhaps something else that hasn't been encountered yet, but that seems highly unlikely given *how often* it's been refuted. (And it's in the faq)

 

It's Starlight Glimmer and Sunset Shimmer.

I know they've all got basically the same name, but they are different ponies.

 

Of course Celestia just catches them like that and takes pictures.

 

Funny you should say that. Originally, then end of tomorrow's episode had Celestia turning up. Then I realised that wouldn't work with what else I wanted to do with the episode, so she's now launching ships in Manehattan instead and will return to the capital in the next episode.

 

FAQ really needs corrected. It's annoying that it mentions mantling in reference to Dresden Files instead of Elder Scrolls. And of all the things I COULD get annoyed at around here, THAT's the one that bugs me....

 

I think New Gods get their powers from whatever domain they embody. They become gods of something by doing certain things and trying to adopt a certain mindset.
Desaad could have for example been torturing people for some time and adopting a sadistic mindset until he gained the powers of a god of sadism and torture, like maybe having an instinctual knowledge of how to hurt someone even if he doesn't know anything about their biology or how they function and possibly causing anyone in his presence to feel pain. I think Zoat said that Desaad briefly confused renegade for Darkseid because he couldn't feel his soul and Darkseid supreses his power to the point where others can't feel him.

Metron could have been a knowledge seeker before he became a god of knowledge and because he dedicated himself to obtaining knowledge he became a god of it and gained powers of a knowledge deity, like super intelligence.
Orion could have dedicated himself to warfare, specifically the positive aspects, and began to embody those aspects, while Kalibak focused on the horrifying aspects of warfare and became the Horror of War.

 

Oh no, the one shipping them is Cadance, then? She is still in Canterot by this time period.

 

Has Grayven always been this garbage at lanterning? I mean, he's worse than pre-enlightenment Illustress Paul. Now this makes me curious how Renegade managed for the first season's chapters and challenges, before meeting that Fatherbox.

 

This is set at roughly the same time as the Equestria Girls film; after series 4 and before series 5.

He's less good, certainly, but I think I made it clear in the text that he isn't actually trying to seriously hurt her.

 

I think he’s weaker this arc just cuz of where he is right now, figuring out how to be a pony and participating in what promises to be the most adorable fight in the entire fic.

 

For some reason, with the description, I kind of see Graven's "pony" form as something like a winged version of the FFX Ixion

 

You're enjoying this too much. Way too much.

Just thought I'd let you know.

 

Renegade may simply be a very skilled wielder of orange rings.
Paul is on a class of his own. I am pretty sure that even if someone else gets orange enlightenment they will still be inferior to Paul seeing as his soul is made of orange light.

 

Ok, I laughed out loud at this one.

 

Zoat is happy.

Yeah it was fairly obvious that he is trying to not hurt her, the construct tried to stop her by holding her in place, the dialog portraits Grayven reluctance to hit back, the only solid hit was on accident and he ended it in a grapple to try to subdue her... Its why the bite has me worried as QQ really opens up the possibilities of how this fight will develop.

Then again star crossed are the best two episodes of renegrayven so this one being similar bodes well for the amount of entertainment... We just may need some bleach to wash up the smell of the thread afterwards.

 

This is the SFW section. The only difference here is that I can link to NSFW material if I make it obvious that's where the link goes.

 

Wait isn't the whole site NSFW... Oh I guess you are right.

 

When are you going to make a new NSFW chapter Zoat?

 

Pass.

 

Wait, so does this mean the recruitment of Luna into the OLC will happen on another Wilson? Or it was just an Ambush Bug illusion and it's not going to happen?

Grayven has really always used his rings more for Scanning/Communication/Inventory/Real-Time-Fabrication than for combat directly.

He mostly uses New God armor and weaponry for combat, or the Sword of the Fallen. He uses aerodiscs for flight rather than his rings. He uses purple healing rays to heal othersinstead of ring healing for most injuries, only using his yellow ring for stuff like reversing age or degenerative genetic conditions. He uses Velocity 9 instead of Ring mental acceleration. He uses Motherbox Boomtubes for long-distance travel instead of Ring Transitioning or Honden-of-Avarice teleportation. Honestly, half the time he needs minion fodder, he uses drone swarms rather than construct soldiers.

And that's before the Pony Magic of the WAAAAAGH messed with his constructs.

He didn't do ring training with the GLs on earth like Paulragon did, and he's consistently looked for other options instead of using his rings. So its no wonder he doesn't seem to be a match for pre-enlightenment Paul in terms of Lanterning.

 

True, but the flip side of that is that Grayven is FAR less dependent on his rings when something messes with them most of the time. For example if that issue with Truggs neural chaff grenades happened to Gravyven, he could have either powered through on spite and his training from Chester, or simply bent Bane into a pretzel with brute strength and durability.

Paul uses his rings exclusively, and while at first he did plan for a backup handgun, and also the various utility features of his power armour, Paul is still generally dependent on accessing most of his alternative options for attack and defense via the ring's storage (railgun ammo types, grenades, construct freeze ray guns etc). Grayven tends to carry his alternatives with him as part of his general kit (because walking about with a magitech sword and ray guns is the New Gods Stock and Trade), or have access to alternatives via boom tubes, which his motherbox OR the challanger base station can open independently of his ring based FTL and Storage.

Paul gets a fair amount of milage out of his empathic powers, and the minor mental and physical tweaks he's performed on himself, but aside from his various marks of unpowered and powered armour suits, he doesn't carry much else, and instead phones a friend on the team or corps. Which has a utility all it's own.