With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Ah weird pony laws. Where on a specific day in a specific place, you can trade away another pony for their labor without their consent for (at the time) unknown amounts of time. The only thing stopping such a trade would be if the one who accepted the trade to call it off.

EDIT:

Actually, this is proven untrue. There is an actual vet inside Ponyville proper.

 

I always assumed fluttershys job was the equivalent of a pet shop owner and a forest ranger

 

Meh funny but not really believable.

 

I understand that Grayven is having a fun time in Equestria partially because he was a fan before becoming God of Conquest however he is being exceptionally irresponsible here. Not only is he essentially bullying children (which is the only way I can see the protagonists of MLP assuming they are close to canon) who understand neither the law nor complex emotional turmoil but still wield powerful mind-altering magics and WMDs. This is the reason most people are bringing up that he's being a bigger dongus than usual I think. But he is also spending a huge amount of time away from his business and family to essentially playfully deconstruct this childish universe. I can understand the desire to do so after all these stupid horses have such a bucolic existence despite their obvious incompetence that a quick dose of competent villainy would be very cathartic.


However if Grayven spends one day in Equestria his daughter won't see him for more than 2 weeks. So he is being quite irresponsible, to say nothing of the chaos that can befall DC in 2 weeks of time, not that that is his responsibility mind but he does have other commitments that could be endangered and are his responsibility, his "mother's" mental wellbeing for instance.


So whilst I don't mind this behaviour from a moral perspective, terrorising these equines seems very fun, he should probably be looking to cure his soul-cancer as quickly and efficiently as possible unless he wants to miss more than a month of his daughter's life because he would rather be playing with ponies, which means actually talking to the mane six about the Tree of Harmony and the true nature of his contagious curse. If that fails immediately going to believable legal threats of some kind, more severe than what is happening at the moment like selling high-tech machinery to competing farms and bakeries. Putting Pinkie and the Apple familly out of business pretty quickly.

 

Yes? She mostly sleeps in trees and spends her spare time training. It's the size she wants it to be. Cloud is free, so she could expand it if she wanted to.

Twilight Sparkle is a librarian with no library. She didn't get a demesne when she ascended. I can only assume that Equestria has some sort of civil list.

Flim and Flam rather disproved that.

At this point they're in their late teens. And Celestia is fine sending them against evil demigods and dragons.

Wrong way around. Grayven could spend two weeks in Equestria and she'd only miss him for a day. And Sunset could change that at will.

Flim and Flam already did that. The Apples might know all about apples but they're terrible businessponies.

 

Ah gotcha. This does mean that Grayven should probably live in Equestria then since he can react to anything happening on earth fifteen times as fast as long as he can run a high bandwidth cable through the mirror, it'd be like being on Velocity 10 all the time. At the least he should move all his manufacturing to the place with hundreds of hours in the day, hopefully Wilson doesn't have some kind of technology destroying force like Harry Potter Wizardry.

So its a known tactic. Does Grayven just not want to do something that has already been done in the show or have the ponies wizened up enough that Psion-tech manufacturing equipment wouldn't put the mane six out of business? If so Grayven could just go full lawful asshole and make some medical devices to cure currently untreatable diseases, perhaps aging, then just sit on them until the protagonists have to confront a really thorny ethical question or two.

Of course now that I think about it more Grayven should probably offer Psion-tech to the Element Bearers first and when they inevitably turn him down for some dumb reason he can put them all out of business/mentally scar them and rehire them as the Equestrian Justice League or Stormwatch or whatever.

 

And it would allow Applejack to actually make money as she'd get fifteen growing seasons to each Earth year.

Oh, Grayven could totally wreck their economy. Medical stuff is a bit more iffy as no one in Universe 16 has studied their physiology.

 

What he did was give what could be considered a deliberately downplayed not-explanation that oh-so-conveniently avoids mentioning all the mass murder and contagious mind destruction:

and then used the Mane Six's dismissal of him as an excuse to bully them. As much fun as this is to read, it's essentially a 30+ year old New God using a pile of gold and a bunch of lawyers to bully six teenagers into doing something that they would have done anyway if he had just explained himself properly.

 

Telling them that it destroys souls and leaves most of the people exposed to it brain dead at best while those who survive it become monsters that want to spread it would have been a better explanation of why they should help him.

The way he explained it to them seemed to be like it just causes sadness and some depression, while unpleasant not something that requires using super magic artifacts to cure, they probably thought he was simply being a drama queen when describing the effects and their severity.

 

Which is funny because they've "learned" lessons to not just ignore people's problems even if they think they're just being drama queens about it (Lesson Zero).

 

He censored himself because if he told them the raw version they would probably get scared and not come to his world when he invites them to come to earth for a visit. Grayven would probably give Celestia and Luna the uncensored one.

 

Wow, when did this story become Worm?

 

If he's inviting them to the DCU to face off against Darkseid they damn well should be scared, and have the right to know what they'd be potentially dooming themselves to.

 

About the time a socially isolated teenager with incredible power was thrown unwittingly into a fight to save the world?

Also, I just found out about this. I managed five out of twelve.

 

I actually got 0/12... and I wasn't trying

Spoiler: Here is the proof

 

You forgot the bullying.

Also: Wow! Nobody ever needed that information, ever! Second time that's ever happened to me. Right after learning what "clopping" was.

 

This chapter reminded me of one of those horrible Harry Potter revenge/bash fics where the Harry goes to the goblins and sues everyone.

 

Your score: 7 out of 12

 

Did you read the one of the ones where they managed to get the Wizengamot's charter revoked?

Twilight wasn't bullied.

 

I initially read this as referring to the SI (generously/loosely interpreting him as a teenager) and With This Ring itself, before realizing it was MLP. In many ways it seems to work for both.

It probably happens in multiple fics, but I remember this from one where Harry and Sirius manage to meet the Queen before the former's trial.

 

Ah yes, Long Live the Queen.

 

That's because Zoat, the writer, created a bunch of previously non-existent laws that if they had previously existed characters in the setting would have followed for the sole reason of his Self Insert bashing the characters of a setting.

Which is pretty much badly written bashfic 101.

 

I like the somewhat realistic response fic White Squirrel wrote for that.

 

Except they wouldn't because they tend to not know laws unless they were right in their faces just like how half the country knows Daring Do is a real life pony while the other thinks she's just a fictional character.

 

i'm gonna say this now. you nerds are taking a story about ponies way too bloody seriously.

If grayven actually wanted to hurt any of the mane 6 legally all he'd need to do is point out some of the more dickish moments from seasons 1-3 and be done with it like nothing. there's plenty of evidence there for at least a legal overview if not revokes. secondly, most of the actual blame can go back to the diarchs, so it'll just get swept under anyway. He's basically pushing and poking pacifists trying to get them to lash out over annoyances so he can get blasted with the skittles beam, not actually hurting them or trying to ruin them.

 

Oh, lighten up. We take everything about WTR this seriously. That doesn't change just because it's ponies. Yes, we know it's just a story. But it's a story specifically about a character who takes a comic book universe seriously. The whole idea is exploring the weirdness of comic book stories through this lens.

 

sorry man but it's like, they're making out what zoat's done to be worse then it is just because we haven't seen anything be done in response. and Vaer is doing their bullshit again but that's not much of a surprise. anyway, i get that we're taking the story seriously, but there is a level we should take it to be, not just automatically the Nth degree. it's silly.

 

Give Grayven a few more hours, she’ll get her turn.

edit: I’m not sure it’s called being bullied to be accused of being a serial killer, but I’m counting it.