With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

doesn't he just have to see if they where reborn then?

 

A sample size of two is hardly sufficient.

 

It can work if the society is at a post-scarcity tech level like the psions are. All the survival basics are handled by automation. I'd almost consider it a likely outcome since in a post-scarcity society there isn't anything stopping the population from acting like those idle rich assholes who do nothing but compete against each other for meaningless status.

 

i mean, the drow are canonically only still existent because every-time they're hit with a crisis, Lolth violates her alignment/her own preaching and orders them to stop murdering each other for the duration (and she made some incredibly fucked-up changes to their reproductive biology-they full-on get off on their babies murdering each other in the womb as a motivator, coupled with extreme virility/fertiltiy by elven standards)- id say its more like....
such a society cant exist "naturally" without something in-universe actively propping the entire thing up via force of violence/power-
given that their fucking sun is trying to eat them in a metaphysical/literal sense, the noble's running this abortion of a civiliseation have to have one fucking HELL of a big stick/boot on their species's throat....

 

And Grayven hatches yet another audacious 'plan' hoping to improvise his way through the inevitable almost-fatal injuries. Admittedly, he's got a very good track-record.

 

O-kay. But Sheeda most definitely aren't a post-scarcity society. In fact they are the exact opposite of it. Even fucking vikings farmed and fished and stuff between raids. Sheeda subsist on nothing but raids. And zombie kudzu/coral thing covering the planet I guess.

 

hmm, maybe the Sheeda rulers keep their subjects under some kind of spell that ensures they don't betray them and rise up.

 

It might work with copious usage of mind control and compulsions, even if the society isn't post scarcity.

 

So kinda like Apokalips with Darkseid dominating the minds of the people with his god powers, but instead the Sheeda are most likely using spells.

 

They are in cahoots with the Parliament of Fire still squatting in the Sun. They've contracted vampirism somehow and are at fault for this beautiful weather Earth's been having for the past billion years or so.

 

Yeah, Artemis isn't fully adapted to being a goddess yet. Being truly ageless means you might get to see the next Big Bang.

From the inside.

 

Enough with the lewd please. Think of the children!

 

You sick bastard.

 

and we have a precedent with the psions and their indoctrination/brainwashing creche's, i suppose- maybe surgical/chemical brain alteration on a species-wide scale to nudge/force each generation (assuming they're even breeding) into the same tendencies/thought patterns?

...though the other big question i have given their use/abuse of TT/temporal tech is how well established/OLD the sheeda as we know them are/is-
it makes me think of a half-serious theory i have about the Terran's in Star trek online's badlands battle zone-given the casualty/asset destruction rates there, its actually reasonable to suspect that they're save-scumming with their stolen/gifted temporal manipulation tech to remain viable, on a ship by ship basis-
given that the Sheeda are seemingly going all-in with each Harrowing, how much use/abuse of time manipulation are they using to ensure they keep rolling results given that they're going all-in, win or die out, every time?


...there was something that happened a while back in a warhammer 40k (set between 30 and m40 actually)fic ive been following that crippled shi-who-thirsts that ive been thinking about-
due to the warp twisting spacetime into a pretzel, the CG in question was essentially running a metaphysical ponzi scheme where as long as there was a effective chance of claiming eldar souls in the future, they could essentially get away with preemptively using the power gained from devouring it before the event (and partly use it to ensure the claiming when they died)-

until something..extremely traumatic happened to a certain, festering pit in the webway that massively reduced the present (and future) dark eldar population,the suffering said psychotic bastards caused AND the power gained from said suffering..... and their powerbase/strength outright started imploding-

given the Sheeda just had one of their time machines destroyed, IF they'd been using it and the (others?) they posses to avert failed harrowings using future knowledge to maintain their rickety grip on power/existance.........

 

maybe remove 'so' and just be 'and air'

Technically twenty first century man.

'feature'

'there may well'

 

range -> ranged

These -> Those (? Not sure, it's probably a reference I don't get.)

flies -> fliers (? Again, not sure. I don't really know sheeda.)

graining -> draining

Nice to know that 'Grayven' still remembers his actual origin.

 

Having fun with the timestamps, if nothing else. At least he's trying to keep his spirits up.

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At first glance, it looks like a society just above the medieval. Maybe they have cannons hidden, but I suspect such advanced metallurgy might be prone to suffering the same degradation their gear is showing.

I don't think there's anywhere you can claim to be from, Grayven. I doubt Sheeda come in eight-feet-tall, grey and brick-wall-like. If they're time-travelling yet, you could claim to be a slave, but that has its' own problems.

Just one minor, teeny-weeny detail about that, Artemis...

At this point, Mother Box is barely capable of talking. I don't think she's up to it.

Not unless you somehow got Danner Formula'd while we weren't looking.

What he said. Seriously...

Maybe find a waterway you could swim along? I mean, they have to get water from somewhere. A city this size can't subsist on aquifer wells alone.

A Witch-sign? Looks like one of the guard-dogs' trainers, heading out to replace casualties. So the dogs are likely Grundymen of some kind.

Ah, for some Ring charge. Always fun to see someone shorn of their usual tools. Then you get to see the crafty side of them.

Problem is, there's only one cloak. And I don't think you'll fit under it, Grayven...

"Sorry, I left my universal translator in my other utility belt."

Not hard, given she's not eight feet tall and three feet wide.

Heheh. I see the Harmonising is still having a few after effects... Would be funny if you could just dance-number your way inside...

On the upside, they make one mistake, get too close and you end up with a gun and a mount. They're likely too smart for that, but you can hope...

It is noticably colder than you'd expect it to be. Not quite a nuclear winter, but it could be something close.

Something else you'd rely on your ring for, I suppose. Really, you'd think you'd have at least prepared for a situation like this: No rings, no Mother Box, no backup... Bat-Dad would be disappointed.

"Do we have wormsign, Stilgar?"

The New God equivalent of Sonar, yay. Only works for empowered Nobility, but, hey...

Eh, not naughty enough to deserve a </takei>. Might want to walk without rythym, though. It ain't the sands of Arrakis, but you never know...

"Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which God has never seen!" Also, fascinating ecology, artificial as it is.

Ah, sneaking skills for the win. Sometimes, charging in greatsword first isn't the best way... A lesson some murderhobos adventurers never learn.

I hope she can understand English. Otherwise this interrogation is going to be very awkward.

Now, to see what she has to say, if she can say anything at all. If nothing else, you have a disguise for Artemis. Though I find myself wondering how easy it'll be to bluff her way inside, especially if she can't control the guard dogs...


Godspeech, with some links!

 

So, Artemis can hear Godspeech at this point, right?

 

Ehh, they did have a Box that they stole so their equipment may be able to withstand the degradation around them.

And even if their equipment seems primitive remember that they do have advanced tech and magic, so the spears and swords might be able to make metal seem like butter and they coul be used for casting spells.

Enhanced strength may come with all Awakenings, but I don't know if it's all that much.

If only New Gods had the Allspeak that gods in Marvel have.

Astartes in 40k apparently would go undercover sometimes and used stealth successfully.

Seriously people that were at least eight feet tall would go undercover and do spy work.

And I thought that setting couldn't be stupid enough.

 

Modified.

Born in 1983. Twentieth.

Thank you, corrected.

Thank you, corrected.

Yes. Yes it is.

No, they're literally giant flies.

Thank you, corrected.

 

Why would zombieherd's gender tell you when you are? Did Sheeda lose all of their (fe)males at some point in their history? Is that why they raid the past? Some 'They Want Our Women' deal going on?

Spoiler

 

It's probably more that it's a Sheeda rather than its gender

 

No it just tells them that they're in an era where the Sheeda exist.

As far as they knew they could have come to an era before the Sheeda existed, or after the Sheeda era.

 

You'd think a bunch of zombies moving about the place would be a bit of dead (heh!) give away that the Sheeda are indeed around.

 

Not necessarily. Who knows what kind of beings existed before and after the Sheeda?

 

Should that be zombieherd?

 

The renegade probably doesn't know if the Sheeda use zombies.

Hell the only Sheeda related group we've seen use zombies are the Columbians, and that doesn't necessarily mean their Sheeda cousins use them.

 

Not any more than you call someone who herds sheep a "sheepherd." He's making up a silly word.

 

Almost singing?

Looks like this will end in HARMONY!