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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    If only Paul was logical when it is necessary.

    Yes, yes it does.

    No, I think it's the planet itself.

    Paul mentioned that it interfered with the Controllers powers so that's why they enslaved the natives.
     
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    The thing is that anything capable of preventing combustion would also work as an all-purpose organic life turner-offer. It could well be that some of the technologies that get labelled 'death rays' function by inhibiting chemical reactions, but if you got caught in a field effect that worked that way without shielding, you'd be too busy being dead to notice your sidearm stopped working.
     
  3. Mr Zoat

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    Thank you, corrected.
    The Tollans used space magic, but the sontarans used an energy field which caused brass to expand, jamming guns which used brass-jacketed rounds. Rounds with steel jackets worked fine.
     
  4. Hell's Razer

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    Yeah people don't often realise it due to how slow it happens compared to animal life but plant life is every bit as vicious as animal life if not more, it just happens slow enough that you need time lapse recording to actually see.
     
  5. Gantradies

    Gantradies Not too sore, are you?

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    i mean, for someone in the equivalent of a elite special forces unit (or an army/marine unit that constantly has to deal with exotic or hostile environments),
    or a deep-space explorer constantly running into, as they say, “weird shit”,
    a conventional/“advanced” chemical-propellant weapon makes a lot of sense- if you end up in danger near an anomaly/hostile device that fucks with non-biological electricity/magnetic or gravitation fields like some of the stuff here- screw with power generation/storage all you like, it’ll still fire unless the field is a game-over to biological life as well, as mentioned
    and even with a dated propellant, a physical projectile still has the capability for special payloads/exotic bullets/shells to compensate-

    plus there’s a lot of room for getting creative with chemical propellants- exotic/high-power loadings using post-FTL chemistry and metallurgy for projectile and weapon both-
    depending on the design, you could probably come up with something like a Coil/gravatic assisted sidearm/long gun that STILL can fire using the conventional propellant without the acceleration assist/targeting systems ect if it’s shorted out/drained…
    I could also see a “simplified” version being popular with civilians/settlers in newly-founded colonies- if you’ve got the materials/power to charge the batteries, great, for regular hunting/animal defence, you could probably skip the propellant charge barring the equivilent of a Cape buffalo,
    -if not, you still have perfectly serviceable hunting rifles/defensive weapons with a bit less kick/velocity that you can reload cartridges for with bulk-imported propellants, or “rough” loads using older/simpler types of powder that are easier to make in a early-colony economy, albeit with a lot of cleaning..…

    hmmm… I wonder if anyone ever started looking into liquid gun propellant charges after that project in the 80’s/90’s by the us navy/army failed due to metallurgy/charge-yield control issues…
     
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  6. Darko

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    Hmm, seeing as this planet is holding Sun Eaters I can't help but feel that we might be seeing Starbreaker soon.

    Paul did travel to the future using his orange light powers so he might have sensed him and is now also feeling him.

    I know there isn't a lot of evidence here but I just can't help but feel that this is the case.
     
  7. Ngamer11

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    The Renegade was the one who met Starbreaker, not Paul.
     
  8. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    When was that?
     
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    In Episode 103: Summer's End.
     
  10. Darko

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    I know that Paul didn't meet him.

    I was thinking that when Paul tracked down Melmoth in the future he also may have sensed Starbreaker and now he's sensing him again.
     
  11. randyb

    randyb Getting sticky.

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    Can someone help me find a particular part of the story?

    IIRC, Paul was talking to someone who asked about which Lanterns he admires, which is almost none of them. Paul mentioned Rot Lop Fan, who's Green Lantern from alien species that doesn't have sight. He mentioned one Green Lantern who managed to internalize that a lot of the time constructs only need to exist very briefly, or something like that, but I don't remember that one's name. The other person asks about Orange Lanterns, and Paul says something along the lines of "I surpass him every time I leave my room."

    I've looked through the story and a bunch of the omakes, no luck yet and it's kinda driving me nuts.
     
  12. Ngamer11

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    It happened in Episode 4: Prod Zone.
     
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    randyb Getting sticky.

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    Thanks!
     
  14. Threadmarks: Sungate (part 14)
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    11th September 2012
    17:22 GMT


    "Half a year?"

    I nod as we head back up through the tunnels, my right hand slightly extended as I try and create a construct.

    "How much time have you spent in the immaterium?"

    "A few moments, while our mother was teaching me."

    "You remember what it's like?" He nods. "You're a god. This body you're driving around now? That's an avatar, capable of using a fraction of your full power."

    "But I-. We have more access to the world like this."

    "Look… Unless I very much miss my guess, you're not much older than me, right?"

    "A little older-. But yes, far younger than our titanic forebears."

    "So while your powers are notable, they're really nothing that a high end mortal magician couldn't replicate. It's just that for you they're innate rather than learned."

    "I haven't seen a magician who could match us."

    "I-."

    My construct splutters into existence, then stabilises.

    "There we go." Coeus frowns. "Trust me, as someone who has seen high end magicians. If I dropped off a book on thaumaturgy in a few of this planet's major cities, you'd see people at that level in… Twenty to thirty years? No one could equal you in full god mode."

    "But I would struggle to affect the world."

    "And that's what priests are for. Very few people have regular meetings with their planet's overlord, but if you stick a priest with a few divine gifts in every town, suddenly they have a more personal relationship."

    "We could have priests without empowering them."

    "Then where's the pull? Why would someone become a priest? What are they supposed to be doing that mundane administrators aren't doing? What are the government officials doing that the priests aren't going?"

    "Is that how..? How the Olympians organise their devotees?"

    "No. As I said, hardly anyone worships the Olympians. Zeus mostly spends his time hanging out in Olympus or… Picking up lonely middle aged women on cruises while in avatar mode. He has at least one recent daughter that I know about sired like that. You want to build this civilisation up?"

    "Of.. course, but-."

    "Then you need to think about what is it that you can offer it. What you can do that would make people want to worship you. Can you assess the intellectual capacities of everyone on the planet as you are now?"

    "Not quickly. I would have to meet them all in person."

    "And in the immaterium?"

    "I would need to bend the world-sphere around myself, which.. would take some time. But once we created a new Othrys, I could arrange matters so that my attention was drawn to the sharpest of intellects."

    "Wouldn't New Cronus work?"

    "No, it would need to be tied to somewhere on the planet. We flew New Cronus here; it isn't integrated yet. Do you intend to hand out books on thaumaturgy?"

    "I'll give you a few copies when we get back to New Cronus. If you're serious about the uplift project I don't see any reason to make your life unnecessarily difficult." I frown as we emerge into the sunlight. "How has your takeover gone over with the locals?"

    "Most mortal rulers have acquiesced. Consolidating our control is slow-going, but there's no unified resistance."

    "Mortal rulers might acquiesce to a display of strength, but that won't be enough to make them yours. It won't make them loyal in the way I imagine that you want."

    "I am confident that within a few generations, they will become accustomed to us. But I take your point-. Your many points. You have never ruled a world yourself?"

    "Not my desire. But I've had access to the records of the rulership of millions of worlds, and the writings of people far wiser than me who analysed them. I would be happy to give you those as well, though I suspect that you will need a very long time to read all of them."

    "Time, we have. If we do as you suggest, Hyperion and Thia would be able to rejuvenate this system's star." I frown. I didn't think-. "It's not dying yet, but it's older than it might be."

    "I wouldn't suggest prioritising it, but visibly changing the sun would certainly give an undeniable impression of power. Oh, and you should probably divide up responsibility between you. Not just your domains, but what parts of lives of your people you oversee."

    "How so?"

    "Would schools be the responsibility of Crius and Mnemosyne, or you and Phoebe? Who is responsible for law and order? How about public health and medicine? Civic planning? Industry? If you're trying to create a unified civilisation and culture, you'll need a unified plan."

    "I will need to discuss all of this with Phoebe, and with the others."

    "Of course. And I need to talk to Controller Hinon about-."

    Coeus doubles over, clutching his head! A moment later he straightens, a look of horror on his face!

    "No!"

    A second later he's faded from view. Some sort of teleportation? It makes sense that he'd be able to do that, but I've got no idea why he's so concerned. I… Doubt that there's anything I could help with; we've built up a rapport and if he wanted me he'd have asked.

    We didn't really… Stop to talk to the garrison protecting this entrance before we came in, but I did get a brief introduction to the man in charge. Athyns came with the New Titans from Karrakan, and he's the head of their military here. I fly towards his command post, returning my armour to subspace and switching to my formal robes. Athyns is a very serious warrior and commander, and I want to be sure that I'm not immediately seen as a potential threat.

    As it turns out, I don't need to head to his command post. He's already out, mustering soldiers and preparing them for action. I get a quick and extremely hard look as I land, and then he nods.

    "Ambassador."

    "Lord Coeus has been called away. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I was poking around secure sites without an escort."

    "It's best if you just stay here. I'll assign you an escort once everyone else is prepared."

    "Prepared for what? If you can tell me. I can see there's some sort of alert, but I don't know what for."

    "Someone attacked one of the gods. That's all I know. Now go sit over there, and stay out of the way."
     
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  15. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    I don't think Paul can do that
     
  16. Someguy Somewhere

    Someguy Somewhere The Critical Fumbler

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    Use of the term 'Immaterium' certainly had me looking if this was P'aul, Gue'vesa Lantern, just on reflex. Of course by the sounds of it things are about to get very Chaotic, no matter what realm you're in.
     
  17. Darko

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    'every town'

    Because they want to please their gods by worshipping them extra hard.

    Tend to the spiritual needs of the people instead of the more mundane knew.

    'he nods'
     
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    Hmm... Now what is he referring to with that? The brief trip to the Witch-world and his side-trip in pursuit of Melmoth, which did take quite some time, presumably. At least he's confirming the range of the anti-magic field. That'll make further trips much easier.

    Ah, I see. So the Titans haven't really flexed their full divine power, instead living in avatars full-time...

    Which would you prefer? Temporal power in this form, or cosmic power over all you claim?

    Suggesting that they do age slower. But not by much.

    You haven't seen an Earth magician, kid. Though I bet there's a story there.

    Well, then. Found the edge of the suppression effect. Now, to pass a summary over to Hinon?

    He really can't get past that little sticking point, can he? Spent too long in borrowed flesh, I suppose.

    o_O Well, where's the fun in that?

    Olympians... Organising? :V Not these days, unless your name is Athena or Hephaestus (what with him gaining a following in engineering and metallurgist circles.)

    Then you have to be prepared to put the work in, and make the necessary sacrifices. No such thing as a free lunch and all that, especially in magic.

    That sounds... Boring. :rolleyes: And how many of them would be well below your standards, then?

    That would be Mount Othrys, ancestral home of the Titans. Much as the Olympians mostly use Olympus as the seat of their power. Presumably, they need to make a location that acts as a lens for their full divine power upon the world...

    I rather suspect that depends on you and yours, hmm? I mean, get on OL's bad side, he'll do his best to remove you as obstacles...

    The joy of a relatively low-tech culture: no unifying contact between peoples. No grand central parliament to convince or overthrow.

    True. Their children might also have objections, but their children's children will only ever have known your rule. The problem is the sheer amount of time that would take, and the likelihood of someone hiding away and raising a resistance.

    Heh. That mind-reading again. I suppose OL's so telepathically open that it's like reading a newspaper... But that's a good point about the star. If it was newly-born when the maltusians were last here, it's likely very, very old.

    Well, I'm not suggesting you each pick a favourite tribe, that just leads to sour grapes down the line, but...

    Yes, not a good idea for someone to go off doing their own thing, only to find someone else had the same idea, and both of you end up in conflict.

    Oh, that's not good. Surely he's not that upset about the Controllers?

    ...Ooooh, dear. That kind of reaction suggest something happened to his sister-wife...

    Interesting that he's present. Part of the group they previously ruled before coming here... Which makes me wonder if someone else if following behind them.

    Sensible, OL, but probably not the best time for levity.

    Now, bets as to who? One of their own? One of the Olympians present? Or a certain someone with a bone to pick with the Titans?

    And of course something has gone wrong. Because why would OL ever have a mission go quietly and calmly? Let's just hope it's confined to the Titans, and the trouble doesn't end up coming to the Sun-Eater Factory... :rolleyes: Eh, who am I kidding? Chekhov has barely had time to put his gun on the mantelpiece before it gets fired these days...
     
  19. Darko

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    Though I'd describe them less as worshippers and more like workers.

    So basically a secret society..

    I think M'gann mentioned him being very open and easy to read.

    My money is on Hyperion and Thia.

    Or a Sun Eater got loose.

    Nice to see you're learning to not taunt Murphy.
     
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    Thank you, corrected.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Silveraith Argent Phantasm

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    That.
     
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    Thank you, corrected.

    And to explain the joke, that's DaiMon Goss.
     
  23. Impartial Panic

    Impartial Panic I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Welp there goes Phoebe, Looks like Donna Troy gets to skip over the Terry Long Disaster if she's lucky.
     
  24. hkim

    hkim Know what you're doing yet?

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    Put me down for "someone propositioned Melinöe and the expected happened".
     
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    Ah right there is a Paul whose powers come from the Dreaming...
     
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    "Recognised, Power Ring Blue, Made Man of Power Ring."

    Earth -14
    Oranga
    11th September 2012
    20:23 GMT +3


    I appear in the antechamber of the team's new base of operations, and take a moment to relax. Things… Things are going as well as they could…

    I chuckle slightly for a moment.

    I can't even finish that thought.

    But they could be going a great deal worse, and -to quote Dilbert- that's not nothing.

    The Syndicate has almost completely moved to the arse ends of the world. The Answer is heading up Asian operations, their Byzantine political and economic systems suiting him perfectly. 'Al' -because apparently we're on first name terms now- is having fun scaring the night soil out of the drug cartels of South America while the Director is stretching his tentacles out across Africa. This hotel is one of his, and the staff and guests are robots operating under his direction.

    "So?"

    Most of the guests.

    "Mister Quick, you know full well-."

    "We're all gunna get tole inna bit, ain't we?" He shrugs, and I note that despite the enforced inactivity he's barely jittering at all. Looks like the new formulation of the speed formula has ironed out that problem. "What's it ma'ahr?"

    "Because it undermines Ultraboy. He's the team leader. I bring news to him, he decides how to share it with the team." I nod politely. "Excuse me."

    I head towards-

    "But we're gettin' out, roight?"

    -Jon's suite-

    "Roight?"

    -and knock politely on the door.

    "Ultraboy?"

    He doesn't run, but I hear his heavy footfalls on the other side of the door immediately. His self control is pretty good, all things considered, but he's been feeling the enforced inactivity just as much as everyone else. He's looking… Okay. Though I personally think that the goatee is a terrible look for him, it does fulfil the recommendation that everyone alter their usual appearance during the relocation. He's even abandoned the 'U' insignia he used to have on just about every piece of clothing he owned. No one familiar with his old appearance would look for a young man in a suit.

    "You got something, Blue?"

    His elocution training has been more miss than hit, but unlike many of our colleagues he is actually making an effort.

    "Indeed I do. Would you please accompany me to the briefing room?"

    "Sure, just… Give me a minute."

    I nod. "Of course."

    He heads back inside, closing the door after him, while I head towards the meeting room. I'm not sure whether the Director meant it as an insult or not, but the main meeting table was originally a replica of the one the old Management used to use. I had it taken out almost immediately, and replaced with a more collegial circle. I also added some soft seating off to the side for less formal one-to-one chats, and it's there that I head. And in deference to the preferences of my colleagues, I pull out a decanter and a couple of tumblers before sitting down.

    How… To sell this.

    Jon pushes the door open and does a quick scan of the door before coming inside and closing the door. He makes eye contact with me, and I hold up Zorina's anti-detection ward and do a quick scan to make sure. Nothing detected, so I give Jon a nod.

    He hesitates for a moment and then walks slowly over, eyes alighting on the glasses.

    "Since when do you drink?"

    "I don't. It's alcohol free; basically wheat juice. It's practically a health drink."

    Jon frowns, a snort escaping his nostrils. "Fer real?"

    "Eh… A few other chemicals. Nothing intoxicating, but it tastes just like the real thing."

    He sits down opposite, picking up his glass and sniffing it. "And no one figured it out?"

    I shrug. "I changed it five months ago and no one's said anything." I pick up my glass and hold it out to him. He taps his own against it with a chink, then we each take a small sip. "Your health."

    He nods. "Makes me think of the first time we had a drink together. Guess that's a happier memory for me than you."

    "I've found that life isn't quite so easily sorted into 'good' and 'bad' these days."

    "Guess I should be grateful about that." Jon puts his glass down and sits back. "What're our orders?"

    I shake my head. "The Management don't-."

    "Sure. 'Requests'."

    "It's an important distinction. They're recognising your independence and-."

    "And that I gotta do what they say if I want the lights t'stay on."

    "You can look at it like that." I shrug. "You can do your own thing, or you can answer requests and receive the commensurate rewards."

    "We did what you said to make the New Management happen. Not like I had any better ideas." I shrug. "Plan any good?"

    "I think it will achieve the Syndicate's medium term objectives. Whether it's the best thing to do or not…" I shrug again. "You remember our alter egos?"

    "Yeah."

    "Their team is used by their mentors as a covert operations unit. Their United Nations imposes rules on the Justice League, and they use their apprentices to bypass them without anyone knowing. The Management want to do the reverse with the Young Offenders. While the Syndicate beds down in its new areas of operation, your team will carry out random acts of brigandage with the aim of drawing as much attention as possible." Jon frowns. "Luthor's sticking to the deal, but there are more excitable elements-"

    "The Justice Underground."

    "-who will come after the Syndicate anyway, and the New Management want them led away from the more vulnerable areas of the business. And you've got plenty of vinegar in you, so I doubt that you'll complain if they catch up with you."

    "Easy to sell it to the others. I'm guessing we can't go back to America."

    "No, but you could attack US interests outside of the States. Just as long as you don't draw attention to other Syndicate assets."

    He nods, looking at his drink for a moment. "Or what else?"

    "What else?"

    "You got some other idea." He looks up. "Don't you."

    "I… Do."

    "So?"

    "We do need a decoy, but we can get anyone to do that. There are a few of the less stable Made Men I wouldn't mind seeing the back of. But for you… How would you like to head up your own operation?"

    "What's the catch?"

    "You have to create one."

    He frowns. "How?"

    "The Syndicate has been moving into highly criminalised areas and inserting itself as the top level boss. My idea for the team is to go somewhere that has suffered a complete breakdown in law and order and creating order."

    A wry smile. "Like heroes."

    "Like empire-builders. You saw how fast Slade threw every law he swore to uphold out of the window the moment he thought that's what he needed to do to win. Ultimately, that's what law is; what the strongest force in a society says will happen. Constitutions are just paper. If you conquer an area, if you enforce your will and bring stability, people will support you."

    "Time fer me to make my own mark on the world?" I nod-shrug. "Interesting idea. Kinda assumed I'd get this talk from Pa."

    "Yeah." I sigh. "That would be better. Or your grandpa, or grandma, or your Uncle Jimmy or Uncle Pete. But I'm what you've got."

    "Yeah. I guess you are."

    He swirls his drink around in his glass.

    "Where were you thinking we'd do this?"
     
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    'first name'

    Remove 'while'.

    Ahh, the evil twin look.

    'His elocution'

    They're either dead or in prison and getting them out is either impossible or not something they can divert resources to.

    We've been getting a lot of different scenes with alternate Pauls this episode.
     
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    Anywhere in South America or Africa.
     
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    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    light -> lights ?
     
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    FreeGod If you see a God on the road fuck it!

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    If Blue learned that his alternative learned how to make a personal lantern I think that he might fully charge his ring on the spot.
     
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