With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

But where is his presentation?!
At most he's just a villain.
Without ✧✪Presentation!✪✧ he can't be a a supervillain.

 

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Honestly if he is doing that instead of stealing tech my opinion of him would actually go up.

Even Kryptonians need to poop and a one piece makes that a bit harder to do even with super speed.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

Not shit holy Stan? Am I saying this right? What's the joke?

 

Istan is a common ending suffix. From context a silent e is being removed.

Not Shit Hole Istan.

 

I think that should say 'Depends on whether or not'.

Why am I now dreading an alliance of evil Earths who want revenge on Truggs and decide to take it by destroying Earth 16?

 

Though they probably have Captain Marvel defences, so they do have ones to fight those with super strength and durability.

I'm getting the feeling that this was Truggs' doing.

'have entered'

'that I think'

Two, Truggs.

Wonderful, now we may find out that there are other worids that are gunning for revenge.

 

I feel like at the end of this arc Truggs needs to be captured and remanded to Overman to take back with him to National Socialist Earth. They have Kryptonian tech so they're not behind. They would hopefully actually imprison him and take him out from play and not be distracted by his rambling about advancement.

 

Yeah, I feel like the cost-benefit of keeping Truggs alive is becoming strained.

I don't mean "Oh yeah, put him in the dirt, he deserves it." but instead "He is becoming dangerous enough to reality in his meddling that he can't be allowed to continue."

 

And with a Power Ring, there's not much that can stay hidden... Unless you know the holes in its capabilities. Imagine if Truggs had been paranoid enough to leave behind disposable Scry-Wards at any site he raided?

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Yes, I can see him not approving of OL's association with 'Super-villains'. Spin it as 'rehabilitation efforts' all you want, some of the heroes just seem to be stuck on 'they did bad stuff'...

Enough that he's probably close to being one of Sivana Senior's actual friends... A circle with very few openings, I would hazard.

On the up side, they're less likely to specialise in anti-Lantern weaponry? Probably a bit more arcano-tech, though, especially if the Doc and his kids were focusing on resisting the daemons.

After all, it's the easiest way for them to test weaponry without using it on people who might not be prepared for it...

I mean, I wouldn't put it past them to have something... Though whether they'd install it as standard after the Demon-Superman thing...

I'm sure he'd notice any ominous hums inside the walls...

Well, if they could fly, there'd be no footsteps. And if they could hack the security, there'd be no signs of defensive combat... So it's not a guarantee.

Maybe in his first hideout. Any super-scientist worth their salt would never stop improving things.

To be fair, I doubt their systems would accept requests from any tom, dick or harry that walked in the door.

Since electricity is one of the few things his body isn't hardened against. So that's to be expected.

I mean, it would probably leave Captain Marvel a little singed. I doubt Sivana would throw his good stuff away on an attacker if he knew they weren't an actual threat, like the 'Big Red Cheese' isn't.

Still friendly, or is it getting serious?

A passable amount of Dakka, but hardly sufficient for the task... Though the colour suggests it's tuned a little more towards the Kryptonite end of the spectrum.

Again, Sivana usually doesn't mess with the Lanterns. No reason to develop defences against them except as thought experiments.

So they're not the first visitors. The Truggs theory is looking more likely.

Sounds like Truggs, or more likely some of his goons using supertech, knew what they'd find and came prepared.

This Earth, or Earth in general? I don't doubt the Weaponers could manage it, after all.

Super-senses at work. Looks like he's found something.

Or Truggs' people, seeking loot from an abandoned site... I doubt the Demon-Superman's followers would be this subtle.

And there's the goons. Looks like it didn't all go their way.

At least this Sivana is paranoid enough to have heavy defences on his equipotent even inside secure sites. But then, there's plenty of other super-genius criminals willing to try to loot his stuff on most DC Earths..

That is a good point. An unwarded corpse? Probably possible for a wandering demon to occupy, at least for a while.

Probably tweaked for different thaumospheres. I doubt this Earth was idential to Earth-16 even before the demons moved in.

Dammit, OL. You really have to set aside a few days to hunt down Truggs once and for all. Messing with one Earth is bad enough, but this? This is how you trigger apocalypses. I don't mean a full-on Crisis, but even minor crossovers can have big risks and big consequences. And Earth-16 isn't as used to them as, say Pre-Crisis Earth-One and Earth-Two...

 

To be fair some of those villains don't have any interest in being rehabilitated or atoning for any wrongdoing.

And Sivana doesn't feel any guilt for all the horrible things he's done, so yeah.

Would you exactly be welcoming to someone that has done horrible things but shows no regret?

I don't think it was kryptonite, probably more of a coincidence that it was green.

 

Doesn’t look like any of these troops were affected by a Dial. Or anything that used a Dial survived and returned home with Truggs…

 

Didn't Superman and the League know about Paul's relationship with Sivana? I know Paul told them during the Sheeda invasion.

 

The League knows. That doesn't mean they approve.

 

If Trugg's is raiding other worlds, those are no doubt mercenaries from a non-Earth 16 world that he hired to further muddy his tracks.

 

That's probably a more proper way of saying it, but the way it's written is how it's often spoken.

Thank you, corrected.

They wouldn't imprison him. He might get a show trial.

Plenty of openings. Very few applicants.

/Modern politics.

 

I don't get it, Demon Superman shot them once from the other side of the planet and then went back to brooding?

 

It's really past time to take down Lex, I feel. Though I imagine/hope when Paragon informs the Earth-16 Sivanas about what's going on, the Light are in for a bit of a shitshow. (which reminds me, Georgia finished or at least collected a bunch of data about the sociology regarding limited implementation of super-tech and magic, right? I seem to remember her saying something was odd to Paragon before they were interrupted by a narrativium explosion aka plot interruption).

What, if anything, are the angels of the Silver City in Demon Superman's dimension doing regarding Hell-Earth? Endless debating?

 

I refer you to the Book of Job. It's not like there isn't precedent.

 

Yep, paragon asked her to do that and I think she found something weird, but something else came up.

 

I hope Mr Zoat will come back to that in the future. That seems like the start of a chain of events that will lead to confronting Boss Smiley again.

 

Most likely.

 

Yes but in that case God explicitly gave the go-ahead for Satan to torment Job (putting aside the fact that Satan at that point may have been a job title for a prosecutor-figure working under God and not an actual antagonist, in real-life anyway). Unless there's a DC version of Job with a variation of the story.

In this case it's a Kryptonian demon responsible for Superman's corruption, right? I think there was a wiki link a few chapters back that talked about it. Not that DC angels seem to particularly care about breaches of divine or diabolical jurisdiction, admittedly. I forget if the Demons Three are going to show up at some point (or already did and I forgot).

 

It should probably be deleted.

 

Maybe 'Anti-Life'

Maybe 'Satanus's building

Yep, they showed up.

 

Thank you, corrected.

 

It's understated how bad it is that Truggs is looting other planets and that he's bold enough to raid a demon world ruled by a DemonSuperman. If DS or any high enough demon's had caught a whiff of they were doing it could have led to a demonic invasion on Earth 16, if DS acted as he did on his world and began destroying major infrastructure projects it would lead to billions of deaths and triggering a series of collapses across the planet. We don't know if DS is as powerful as Superman/Overman or even more so due to being empowered by demonic energies but we know he has experience killing/corrupting the Justice League. Truggs is ruthless and supremely prosiac when it comes to his goals but this is a risk that's beyond the pale

 

I think He was hoping they would go directly to fighting him.
When he saw they didn't come after him he probably couldn't be bothered to go to them.

Since they aren't here to give him entertainment right now
he'll let them wander the ruins and hope it will inspire them to attack later.