With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

A bit of a delay, but that thing on Lady Zand's appearance . . . I took a look at one of the comics she appeared in and damn if it wasn't confusing as hell. Funnily enough it was in one of the older Young Justice comics, but I swear her skin tone changes from panel to panel. Sometimes she looks pale enough to be a ginger, sometimes she looks like she could be black, and sometimes she looks like her complexion is Mediterranean or maybe Spaniard.

But I did find this as an apparently more recent image.

 

Surprised the indecent exposure isn't what drew his attention most. Building theft? Ganted Graven could do it but for other people that should be a weird thing to do and be able to do.

 

On a side note Zoat, I was thinking about 90s comics. Namely Milestone Comics from the 90s before the DC merger when the Dakotaverse was still a separate setting.

What would you do with a Orange Lantern Paul appearing over that Earth with Icon and Rocket and Static and the Blood Syndicate and all that? Try and network with Hardware and front him resources to try and take on Edwin Alva?

Please be as specific as you like.

 

There is a version that works with, or at least is occasionally hired by, the Shadow Cabinet, who i think showed up in the Dakotaverse.

 

Was this intentional or did you mean affected?

That's singular. "alumni" (or "alumnae" if they're all female but the school is nominally coed...)

The end

 

That was the Red Lantern Paul who was in the Teen Titans universe who got Blackfire pregnant I think.that was after the Milestone DC merger. I was asking about a hypothetical Paul in a Milestone Comics universe pre DC takeover.

 

And none of those were educated in a government institution specifically intended to prevent those results.

Thank you, corrected.

 

And today, in Young Justice related things that Zoat is probably going to ignore because it contradicts what he already wrote;

Spoiler

Vandal Savage is Arion's grandfather.

Vandal Savage is also responsible for the sinking of Atlantis.

His reasoning is pure supervillain. After Arion(and later Vandal helping) established a continent spanning magitech society, Vandal wanted to sink the capital.

Arion: "Okay but why though?"

Vandal: "So that the survivors will activate their powers and be able to live underwater and thereafter conquer the seas!"

Arion: "Grandpa, no. We are not doing that. What we are doing is making an appointment tomorrow to get you some medication because you very clearly need it."
Klarion: "Sink the city? Pfft, watch this!"

Klarion: *sinks the continent(possibly backed by all the Lords of Chaos)*

Vandal: "A few more casualties than I wanted, but it'll do."

Skip forward to modern times, Child is here to kill Klarion and replace him as the Lords of Chaos have had enough of him working with Savage. She's also being funneled power from all the Lords of Chaos to do so.

Klarion also dropped that the Light has done something on Earth-17(Kamandi's apparently, Atomic Knights?) that Child considers a fiasco.

Vandal is trying to get Nabu to help him(who does, incidentally refer to him as father) deal with Child on the logic that Klarion is much more manageable. Why the Lords of Order don't supercharge Fate or else send someone super charged like Chaos is doing for Child isn't mentioned.

Also, Jason Blood and Etrigan showed up!

 

' demon '

should be ' for '

 

Haa!

I'm starting to like Karl.

Yeah, this could be a situation like the one between Kon and Clark and Jay and his wife may not want to meet her.

'too used'

 

That should say 'too'.

 

Send? Or do?

 

Ah, a rare POV from someone else. It'll be interesting to get a look at Overgirl's thoughts on things. I'm sure she and Overman have a lot to talk about. What's been happening since she disappeared, what she's been learning on Earth-16, Karl's increasing dissatisfaction with National Socialism... That sort of thing.

Spoiler: Commentary spoilered for length

You at least have some experience on that front now. Now might be the best time to talk, since things are likely to heat up soon enough...

What, has King Arthur awoken? This does seem like England's Darkest Hour, after all. I wonder, is Fionn mac Cumhaill running around in Ireland?

So, perhaps Morgaine le Fey has played some part here. Calling the fair folk back to the mortal world to lay some claim to the ancestral lands of Albion, perhaps?

Orcs? Trolls? Ogres? Some other manner of large fey being? Who can be sure?

Not the time for Dad humour, Overman. The lady wants a word.

I suspect it's not quite the same, in his mind...

This could be what he needs for his feelings about his failures in his world. Someone to pull his head out of his arse about things and get him to take action when they get home...

Daawww... But stop trying to change the subject!

Not without drastic action. But what are the alternatives after that? What will you do, after you've torn down the system you spent your lives believing in?

A wise young woman...

It's one think to know about it... But how would you react if it was being shoved in your face, hmm?

It's easy to forget things, when they aren't being remembered.

I still bet Uncle Sam's suffering from his iconic national character conflicting with the present spirit of the people. That can't be good for his sanity.

I don't think the multiverse is quite ready for inter-reality mass emigration...

Heh. Yeah, I figured as much. High on his own ego, like so many of the original leadership of the Third Reich back in the day...

Not all of the Reichsmen are true believers, eh?

Jay-16, I presume? That would be an interesting meeting. "I'm the child you might have had... In a Nazi-ruled world."

Was it ever explained why? Or why they didn't adopt?

Yeah, last thing you want is a speedster having a murderous nervous breakdown.

The heart of the magical kingdom, then. Looks more and more likely a mystical power has moved in...

Well, when you're basically seen as a demi-god... I can't see anyone naysaying you. I hope your Paul gives you plenty of sass.

"We come in peace. Please take us to your leader." Not quite a Close Encounter, but...

Oh, he's sassy as fuck. I like him!

I can't help but feel like that's a stealthy insult. Pity neither of them know English idioms well enough to notice it.

Love the calm, direct manner of his ultimatum. He is going inside, whether they like it or not...

Yeah, that threat is not so subtle. I am impressed they still held their fire.

Guessing radio is non-functional with all this magic about. Or they simply don't know how to use them...

A good chance to get out of OL's Enlightened head and see things from a saner perspective. Presumably he's off looking at another country while Karl and Angelika deal with England. Off to Atlantis, perhaps? Still curious to see who's sitting on the throne, though. And what became of those loyal to the Caligula Club... I suspect things have not gone well for them.

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Should be a full stop.

 

Nazis learned: knocking!

It's super effective!

 

Yup, that's Morgan Le Fey.

 

She is obsessed with ruling Britain, so it may be her.

I think there were ogres or orcs in Morgaine's world.

Renegade was even mistaken for one.

Freeman did mention time travel.

I think Zoat said it's less metaphysical and more him just fighting for so long that he's started to lose his mind.

He's a Paul, they all give sass.

I imagine not, if Morgaine got her hands on them.

Though if they fled then they may have found sanctuary with the demons.

 

It very much is. Traditionally the tradesman's entrance is where tradesmen brought supplies that a lord's household bought and was placed somewhere discreet and out of the way.

To give a modern example/equivalent:
It's like going to see a large shop's owner for some reason, and getting stopped at the entrance of the shop and instructed to go enter through the loading dock out back, not because the owner is there but because that is where someone like you should enter from.

Edit: Better example: Going to a restaurant and being stopped at the entrance and instructed to go to the back entrance to get your food.

 

Mr Zoat, is Kara Zor-L a member of the Team now? If she is, I'm interested in seeing her interact with members of the Team.

 

Such pessimism. It is merely a matter of time-scale. Constant pressure for a few centuries should do the job.

One of the better remixes of “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”

 

'demon and his'

Hey, what is Ancestor Paul's relationship with Vandal Savage like?

Are they enemies, allies, acquaintances, or have they never even met?

 

'We hate these people... Who we've already exterminated. And this drug-addled wreck is our saviour.'

In this story they adopted once and the child died.

For those unfamiliar, a tradesman's entrance is the entrance of a large property used by servants and tradesmen, as opposed to the front door used by family and guests.

Thank you, corrected.

Killed him before he could expose himself to the meteorite.

 

It's nice to know there is hope for Nazi Earth and I'm a little saddened that Karl lost a child it explains why he is so protective of Angelika. Killing Savage would solve a lot of problems but he's been so important to the history of mankind that removing him might cause some serious problems.

 

No, that was Jay and Joan Garrick.

 

Well that's one less problem removed.

Though, yeah, like Bud-E said, given the fact that Savage tended to be involved in a lot of historical events, either being a central figure, or connected to it somehow, I'm imagining that the world in Ancestor Paul's universe is much, much different.

And speaking of that hunk of space rock, did Ancestor Paul use it to give himself immortality, or at least some other metahuman ability?

I know he has his ring, but has he still exposed himself to it so he can gain another source of power in case he loses his ring?

 

I wonder if he ever tried to make some sort of ancient Justice League? I wouldn't put it past a Paul to form a group to better achieve his goals, but would he even know who to recruit?

 

He would know about Teth Adom, the Hawks, Atlantis, and the amazons from there he could probably have a decent JL

 

He may also know about the League of Ancients, Dr Mist and whatever other powerful beings existed back then.

 

The Ancient ended up way way before that. The only person around in the era he started in was that unnamed caveman who got the H-Dial.

 

No time traveling Bruce Wayne?

Spoiler: Dire Batman