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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Discussion in 'Creative Writing' started by Mr Zoat, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. CTrees

    CTrees Chasing the ring

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    Renault hasn't sold cars with the Renault badge* in the US since the '80s. It's possible she wrecked an old Le Car, but it's unlikely.

    *Renault owns Nissan, and Nissan partly owns Mitsubishi, both of which are sold in the US.
     
  2. WereDragon

    WereDragon Bookwyrm

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    …well at least she is a professional, unlike the child Paul is babysitting.
     
  3. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Yes.
    You may be overestimating how eager Superman is to copy Nazis.
     
  4. Aelyx

    Aelyx It is I, Q, who are you?

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    Not copying them, just thinking about the idea of Paul using Overman to get Kal-El to release more Kryptonian technology for Earth. I doubt he'd want it out there that he refused and a Nazi was who they got it from.
     
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  5. Cuchulin

    Cuchulin Versed in the lewd.

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    Also, as shown in the series Empowered, if you don't have super speed or a ridicules amount of Super strength? You are better off getting in the Car and ramming your target with it at max speed.
     
  6. Bud-E

    Bud-E Stand up so I can push you down!

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    Still the world full of Nazis having access to this earth is gonna cause some problems. I'm pretty sure the public is still unaware of Overgirl/Man being a Nazi.
     
  7. Doccer

    Doccer I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Holy shit. An (ex)villain finally using their mad genius to cure cancer. Will wonders never cease...
     
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  8. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    Ah, I think New Kara may be too young and to innocent to be... exposed... to someone like that (or vice versa).
     
  9. Threadmarks: Vantavendi (part 12)
    Mr Zoat

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    20th October 2012
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    Kara stares at me in what I'm increasingly coming to realise isn't mock offence but is in fact real offence.

    "But they're dangerous supervillains!"

    "Mister Morillo and Mister Tell are violent thieves, but the damage they usually do is nothing compared to the average week in some places. The fact that they put on a-"

    I glance at the two where they glower up at us, in Mr. Tell's case through the hood of a nanotube-reinforced straitjacket in order to prevent him… Firing his… Skin cards.

    Ew.

    Technically, neither of them have 'costumes'. Mr. Morillo has fairly functional schizo tech body armour while Mr. Tell just has a pair of jeans so that he can reach the skin cards which cover his torso, though I suppose that the cards themselves could count.

    "-n exotic appearance doesn't somehow 'prove' that they're worse."

    She frowns. "Tell me where's worse, then!"

    "Tijuana still has the highest murder rate-."

    There's a roar of displaced air and she's gone, and I silently mouth 'thank you, Eris' to myself.

    Then I turn to the unexpectedly expanded Garrick family.

    "Sorry about that."

    "That vas a accurate assessment. Did you have that one saved up for long?"

    "She means well, but she's... Ah…"

    Jay nods. "Easily distracted and a bit headstrong."

    Blitzen nods. "If her head can survive an impact mit concrete like that, it must be strong. She is your Overgirl?"

    "No, 'headstrong'. Impulsive and determined in following through on those impulses. And she's certainly someone's Overgirl."

    "Ah." She nods. "I see. That is not a problem that Angelika has. She is always very deliberate."

    "Where is she, anyway?"

    "Taking my place in the Neu Reichsmen vhile I am here. She and Overman are planning somethink, but I just vant them to spent a little time together. He does not like to show it, but he vas very scared vhen she disappeared."

    I look from her to Jay and back again.

    "A… Nd..?"

    "For a Nazi, she's not too bad."

    Blitzen grins.

    "Danke schön, vater. For a degenerate whose culture is based on that of the two vorts I am not meant to say, you are not too bad either."

    "You can say 'Jew'. It's not considered pejorative."

    "Okay, but that vas not the vort I vas going to use."

    Jay takes a moment. "Was it like this for you, working with Angelika like this?"

    I shake my head. "No, Angelika was far less self-confident. And she still doesn't accept the name 'Nazi'."

    "I try to avoid self-deception. I know vhat ve are."

    "But… I rather got the impression that Nazis were better at mental conditioning than this. You're being surprisingly flippant."

    "Ah." She shrugs. "As the degenerates say, 'fick the man'. The Nazis have very strange mixed messages for actual superhumans."

    "Angelika had a… Issue-."

    "Jah, jah, she's sterile. How many children do you think any of us have?"

    "I'd-. Assumed some? I mean, the whole traditional family role-."

    "It doesn't mesh with superhumans. Ve're supposed to be… Ah… Elevated, jah? Above petty concerns and slave morality. Ve don't get normal lives. The vomen are supposed to conform to voman social ideas unt also not, because we are above that. And if you are a madman in command of a project that can produce superhumans, then you vere always right and everything you did to make them was right. They didn't even give me a name other than 'Blitzen'."

    "Huh?"

    "Jah, that vas very funny. 'Hallo everyone, here is Blitzen, our latest ubermensch, unbound by personal identification but rather a pure expression of an ideal'. 'Jah, but you can call me Johanna Garrick.'" She grins. "I thought they vere going to shit themselves!"

    I frown and glance at Jay-.

    "I've already had this talk. I'm not surprised that Nazis aren't even nice to other Nazis."

    "It's the 'survival of the fittest' part of the philosophy. They let madmen do mad things, and if it doesn't vork out? Kill them. The idea was that superhumans naturally vould conform to the higher morality and so to Nazi ideals, because of course that makes sense."

    Jay shakes his head. "I still don't understand how they rationalized that."

    "I said mad scientist, jah? The people who kept going vith superhuman cloning research vhen Overman banned them from vorking on his body. They dream a mad dream and do not understand vhy no one else alzo dreams it."

    "So how are you finding this degenerate world?"

    She looks around, then shrugs. "It is okay? On a political level, I do not believe that refusing to ask a question is better than getting the answer wrong. There are many things that your civilisation has that are vorse than mine. Is deliberate murder vorse than a dereliction of duty vhich leads to even more deaths?"

    Jay nods. "Yes. Much worse. You had worldwide death camps!"

    "And ve did not have the communists. Our civilisation is stronk, vhereas yours could not come together even during an invasion of your whole vorld. The Other Flash feels zo terrible for killing their queen vhen he should be exalted as a hero."

    I smile. "Jay, why don't you take the rest of the evening off? I can ride herd on Blitzen, and I think I've got a job for her that fits her skills perfectly."

    Jay looks at me, clearly working out how to phrase his scepticism.

    "Paul, I'm not sure that's exactly a safe option."

    "It's a Justice League mission. I'm working under their rules of engagement, and I just need… Miss Garrick-"

    "Hah!"

    "-to go to a meeting or two and report back. She'll get to meet a colourful cross-section of the American population and learn about how a society's responses to crises don't have to come from a government entity."

    "I…" He thinks for a moment. "Justice League rules?"

    "Justice League rules."

    "That should be alright. Jo?"

    "As a proud daughter of the vaterland, I am eager to start!"
     
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  10. Oglymogly

    Oglymogly I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    So am I. I'm very excited to see where this goes.
     
  11. Citizen

    Citizen Well worn.

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    I think you mean 'accept'.
     
  12. Ngamer11

    Ngamer11 Experienced.

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    How many people are going to sue New Kara for damages at the end of this?

    I think there should be a 'results in' here, making it: 'which results in even'.

    I'm excited to see how Paul will break Blitzen's mind and how long it will take.
     
  13. moralrelativity

    moralrelativity Recovering pendant.

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    confirm -> conform ?
     
  14. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    This should be interesting.

    I know it's her accent, but maybe 'wit concrete'

    I'm getting some coup vibes.

    'accept'

    Well that's something.

    The Nazis had a lot of weird and nonsensical beliefs.

    Seeing as most of the groups they hate are either dead or lost any semblance of power, I guess they needed to find something else to hate and chose the nearest group of people, themselves.

    I'm actually kinda reminded of a Family Guy cutaway where two bigots are left behind in the Rapture and choose to start hating rocks and later on each other.

    Then they bang.

    They're Nazis, they'll rationalize anything, even the dumbest shit.

    Heck, especially the dumbest shit.

    You did.

    'which result' or 'rezults'

    I'd like to see your world face a similar situation and whether you'll be able to come together.

    Time for shenanigans!

    Though if it's connected to Crimson Avenger, then you're just giving her a very fast target.

    You won't be do eager at the end there.
     
  15. Chojin Patriarch

    Chojin Patriarch Veteran Lurker

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    Still doesn't change the fact they're C-listers at best. Compared to things like 'Alien S&M Ninja Elves' Sheeda or 'Black out the Sun' Wotan, they're only scary to normal people when they're in range of causing harm.

    Not the strangest superpower around, really. Disgusting, but honestly threatening to humans.

    Especially if they form in aesthetically pleasing patterns. Like Red suits on his left side, Black on the right, that sort of thing.

    Please don't, she'll go off...

    ...half-cocked. Oh, boy. The United Mexican States is not going to know what hit it...

    ...She's new. And , uh... special.

    ...Really hard to come up with ways to explain her unique outlook.

    ...Ah, that literal German mind.

    And I'm sure Earth-10 is thankful for that.

    I really hope your method of transit is either very limited in usable access or very easy to negate.

    To be fair, Jay, the Nazis you used to punch out were assholes. Or at least stuck working for assholes.

    ...Dare I ask which two 'bad words' she means? Because I bet there's a lot she's not allowed to say in 'polite' company around here.

    ...Okay. That I did not expect...

    Well, she has literally never known any other way of life until she arrived here. It's understandable.

    Why do I get the feeling she'll be a little bit Abridged!Alucard by the time she goes home?

    Case in point. I pity whoever is in command of her back home, they're about to have quite a few headaches.

    Probably easier for the male ubermensch. They can stop by home every once in a while, let the 'little lady' handle the child-rearing. :rolleyes: Gits.

    Playing the 'Jungian archetype' card on her, eh? "She is Speed. She need be nothing more."

    Oh, yes. I am loving her anti-authoritarian streak.

    Well, they inevitably needed someone to be assholes to. Why not their rivals for power?

    They're very good at self-deception. You'd think some of them might look at themselves and ask 'Are we ze baddies?' But no.

    I'm sure the leadership encourages their wunderwaffen research. Never know if you're going to get something useful, but you never know, might get the next Overman.

    On the other hand, I think I can guess where she'd stand on people like the Joker...

    And there's the controversial opinions. Not surprising she'd default to 'Strength good, weakness bad. Unity strong!' Let's hope OL can work on that.

    'This isn't a team, it's a chemical mixture.' And the end result might be hilarious to some, but not for those at ground zero.

    Well, it's as good a name as any. I wonder if Jay's been living up to the mental image she no doubt had of him.

    Ideally, she won't even see a lick of combat. Realistically, she can at least end any fight faster than anyone else here. And if she's bound by league rules, she won't even kill any of them.

    Probably eager to meet all manner of strange new 'degenerates', I bet. Why do I get the feeling she's something of a xenophile, due to her upbringing?

    If nothing else, the lady is going to have quite the eye-opening experience in OL's company. Probably a good idea to let her sample more than Jay Garrick's particular view of the world, at least. And she's enough of an unknown quantity to fool any... Less-than-forthright elements of the Alliance, since I assume OL wants her to sit in on their get-togethers. It promises to get lively, I think.


    Probably better as 'at us' or 'up at us', I think?
    "That vas an accurate assessment." Unless that's part of her accent and rusty English?
    ...is better than getting the answer wrong.
     
  16. Handlewithcare

    Handlewithcare Versed in the lewd.

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    Urgh, I like her.

    I do not like liking her.
     
  17. Darko

    Darko Connoisseur.

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    Extra special.

    Though she has a point.

    Well if the Nazis have an HR department back on Earth 10 then they'll be overworked with complaints about sexual harassment.

    Pity her other qualities aren't so good.

    Yep, they pretty much got rid of everyone else.

    To be fair, a lot of people would have the same opinion concerning him.
     
  18. DonLyn

    DonLyn Getting out there.

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    1. That expression does not exist in German

    2. If it did, it would be "fick the man"
     
  19. Pinklestia

    Pinklestia Well worn.

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    I like her, for some reason.

    Myst be because DC has bigger monsters that Nazis and she is willing to change.
     
  20. Mr Zoat

    Mr Zoat Dedicated ragequitter

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    Thank you, corrected.
    No, that's intentional.
    I can't find the reference at the moment, but I remember a history documentary a few years ago where they did a segment about Nazis and natural selection. A Nazi party official wrote to Hitler asking to be made head of the local party. Hitler's response was something like, 'if you can take over then just take over'.

    Overman taking over wouldn't be coup, it would be what's supposed to happen according to Nazi ideology. It would be like calling it a coup when someone wins an election and peacefully walks into the office.
    Oh bless you, no. That's not why.
    Thank you, corrected.
    Thank you, corrected.
    It is.
     
  21. jasonh23761

    jasonh23761 Not too sore, are you?

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    I'm right there with you.
     
  22. ForeverShogo

    ForeverShogo Not too sore, are you?

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    Honestly, with how flippant she is and her saying "I know what we are" I think it'd be kind of funny if the attempts to "break her mind" as some people have put it just slid right off of her.

    Because she just feels like one of the ones who would acknowledge that this Earth isn't as bad as she would have thought it would have been, but that her world still does things better.
     
  23. CTrees

    CTrees Chasing the ring

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    Kara isn't quite so (intentionally) murderous, but this definitely reminds me of when Black Adam decided to kill an entire country in the comics. "Tijuana bad? Guess it's time to arrest the entire city!" That definitely has a silver age shenanigans feel...

    Blitzen continues to be delightful.
     
  24. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch I trust you know where the happy button is?

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    Considering how Silver Age Supergirl acts, I rather hope Captain Cold's Golden/Silver Age counterpart shows up, if only for Earth-16 Snart's reaction to him.
     
  25. mastermenthe

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    Mr Zoat is the Goddess Eris paying attention to New Kara?
     
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    nick012000 Gone for Good

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    It's a pity that White Dragon's dead. I wouldn't have minded seeing him meet Blitzen. It probably would have been hilarious.
     
  27. Prince Charon

    Prince Charon Just zis guy, you know?

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    If she is, I suspect that she's very entertained.
     
  28. Threadmarks: Versus the Rake Men (part 4)
    Mr Zoat

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    21st year of the reign of King Randor I
    Season of Chill
    307th day, 16th bell


    Talk or fight?

    Fighting in here isn't optimal. Eternians can't fly but the athletic ones can be bloody quick on their feet. And the fight would definitely damage the crystal chamber. I don't know how big a deal that is; Teela Na didn’t seem especially concerned about the damage Zodak's fight caused, but it wasn't that much. I have no idea what weapons are integrated into that armour, and then there's the sword…

    On the other hand, while I'm not as proficient as some of the other mes I met briefly after we got grabbed by Krona, I am still a Lantern. Or.. power ring user, anyway. Eternians are tough, but they're hardly invulnerable to levels of force I can generate. This fight should be winnable.

    Alternately, I could try to convince her that I'm a minor functionary while I feel her out. Find out what -if anything- she remembers of Eternia. What Hordak's been doing with her. I can turn the staff into a broom-.

    Evelyn's half way to Adora already.

    "Hail, friend. I am Evil-Lyn, a warrior in the service of Skeletor." Adora levels her sword at Evelyn, who stops walking closer and affects an expression of mild offence. "Is that any way to greet an ally?"

    Thaaat works, I suppose. I send the staff into subspace before hesitantly following Evelyn, holding my body in a submissive posture.

    "Skeletor." Probably-Adora doesn't sound entirely convinced. I suppose that Keldor isn't exactly a constant presence in… Wherever Hordak spends his time. He might just not have mentioned him to her. "This is… Eternia."

    "Ah, you do know of it. I hadn't realised that Hordak was trying to send his warriors here."

    "Where are we?"

    "An abandoned castle I was exploring. The crystals possess a strong magic."

    Adora's helmeted face turns towards me, and I make a point of dropping my eyes submissively. She discounts me immediately, not even bothering to look at the Basophil Amulet on my chest. Now, Hordak shouldn't know that King D'Vann's power outlasted him. Keldor only found out about the power of Grayskull recently, and he wasn't in regular contact with his nominal superior. But if he were here, then he'd find out fairly swiftly.

    Adora raises her sword slightly, looking at the blue stone in the ricasso. "They're the same."

    Evelyn shrugs. "Perhaps. The same colour, certainly." She extends her right hand. "If you'll hand it over I can check for-?"

    Adora glares at her. "I'm keeping my sword."

    "As you wish." Evelyn withdraws her hand. "And.. who, exactly, are you? From your armour I assume that you work for Hordak..?"

    "I am Despara, a Force Captain in the Horde."

    "Despara?" From the sound of her voice I don't think that Evelyn is impressed by the try-hard name. Evil Lyn isn't impressed by the try-hard name. I carefully school my expression and don't comment on dubious wisdom of projectile geology in silicate-based domiciles. "I don't believe that I've heard of you."

    "My elevation is recent; long after Hordak's last contact with Eternia."

    "Where is Hordak these days? He was supposedly banished to Despondos, but if he has living followers that seems unlikely."

    "Hordak's great horde is in the process of subjugating the world of Etheria. There is some… Magic to the place that makes it more accessible from Despondos. Hordak can walk among us for brief spans, and his presence and voice are always with us."

    Etheria… I guess that's where She-Ra happens? And I don't remember anything about Hordak having trouble interacting with the world. He was just sort of there, commanding his army and occasionally getting involved in active combat with the… She-Ra's team, whatever they were called.

    "Fascinating. But how did you come here? I remember the last time that Hordak sent soldiers here, and the preparations were extensive."

    "Last time?"

    "Mmmmm. Fifteen or so years ago."

    'Despara' doesn't move for a moment. Her eyepieces mean that I can't tell whether she's staring at Evelyn or staring into space. And while I could do some sort of ring scan, she might be able to detect it and it would be much better if we could resolve this without fighting.

    "What did they do here?"

    It's hard to notice, but there was a slight hesitation between the first few words of her question.

    "They kidnapped the infant daughter of one of the local rulers. They never said why, but they returned through the portal back to 'Etheria' and never returned."

    "What-? Was her name? What did she look like?"

    "She looked like a small, crying child." Evelyn shrugs. "Archivist?"

    Who-? Oh, me. "Blonde hair, blue eyes, your eminence. Her name was Ador-."

    "Adora."

    I bow my head. "Yes, your eminence. Have you met the young lady? Actually knowing what Hordak intends would make it far easier for us to enact his will."

    "Adora. She came from here."

    "Well… A city a short distance from here."

    "Have its people been enslaved and tasked to labour for the Horde?"

    I shake my head. "No. Skeletor has been more focused on increasing his personal power rather than conquering and holding inhabited territory. He nominally 'rules' half the world, but in fact his writ runs shallow outside of Snake Mountain."

    "You are impudent to speak so of the one Hordak has placed over you."

    "I try to keep a realistic view of the abilities of those around me. For example, I don't see any sign that you are a magician."

    "I am not. I am a warrior."

    "Your armour appears…" Evelyn runs her eyes over Despara's armour. "Sophisticated, but I see nothing that could open a portal to this… 'Etheria'."

    "Shadow Weaver wished to study my interaction with this sword. Usually I arm myself with two short swords. Shadow Weaver is Hordak's greatest sorceress, and she believed that this sword would react to me in some way. I held it aloft, then… Here I was."

    "That's it? No flash of light? No glow?"

    "Not that I noticed." She hesitates, her attention moving to the sword. "Though most of my attention was focused on Shadow Weaver. If it was a subtle sign, I may not have noticed."

    "Then what are your intentions? Do you wish to return as swiftly as possible? Or do you have other orders you wish to complete first?"

    "I should return. But the ability of this sword to open portals could be an asset to the Horde, and none of my usual responsibilities are anything that another Force Captain could not complete nearly as well."

    "Then studying the sword is what we will do. Archivist." I perk up attentively. "Fetch my staff and some refreshments and then meet up in the castle library."

    I bow my head to hide my smile. And of course I can't refuse now, or the mummery comes to an end and we're back to fighting. Evelyn could have just told Adora that she needs help, so I don’t think that she intends to betray me. Of course, that doesn't mean that she isn't trying to find out whether or not Hordak would give her a better deal if she did. Fortunately, I can monitor her while I'm away to make sure that she doesn't do that the moment my back is turned, but I just got put on the back foot something fierce there.

    "At once, Evil-Lyn. I will meet you there."
     
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    So use trickery and deceit. Classic Paul tactics when he doesn't think brute force will win the day. I wonder what the Sorceress will think of this when she comes back?
     
  30. Darko

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    Really Evelyn?

    Really?

    You're not impressed with her name.

    Exactly.

    And maybe "Evil-Lyn"

    Probably be exasperated at Paul's actions and rethink any future vacations.
     
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