Exalted 3E Discussion

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Interesting, and powerful if circumstantial thus why I would give it 4 dot rating in the artefact scale.

 

Simply. It's very handy for a sorcererer and a daiklave too. But only works when you have beings to slice up on hand. Without Daiklave promoting it it would be a handy 3 dot magic tool.

People rating it 5+ dots are quite silly and suffer from D&D syndrome of "Wizards are omnipotent!".

One! It only works when slicing live things on site. Needs prepared ahead stuff.
Two! It can serve as daiklave or as sorcery-boost, but not both at once.
Three! It is also having requirements of not having any other sorcery-boosting charms/merits taken.

 

Casting spells when in combat, at least as far as I understand Exalted combat engine, is asking to be shanked as smallest disturbance can end up with disrupted spell. Benefit, in my opinion, balances nicely with risks taken and the necessary things place it neatly in "nearly world shaking wonder" category.

Let's compare it to sacrificial dagger. To have oomph you need sacrifices.

Best wizard wand to cast FIST!

The version of Child's Lament that i read ... few hours ago, implied that it teaches the firs two Evocations free if sorcerer is: Solar, doesn't have another +sorcery motes Merit/Charm. I read it wrong?

Ok, I used the version wich was apparently out-dated to do my small review.

 

Thar's a lot of work there. Its very nice. I like it.

 

I totes approve of Irongut Vixen on principle. Foxes are justice!

 

So...Kushina Uzumaki?

 

Kushina Uzumaki ... refined?

Where and when?

 

Um, as far as I understand she was sweet only to her hubby. Everyone else went out of their way to appease her horrible temper. She was feared more for being Kushina Uzumaki than for being vessel of Big Scary Fox.

 

Hard to say anything definitively since we don't see much of her in the manga, but it seems like even as an adult she has outbursts of temper, though she's more calm and sweet the rest of the time. See her punching Naruto when he mistakes her for the Kyuubi in ch. 498, page 2.



Though I haven't seen it, her personality is apparently also like that in the Road to Ninja movie.

 

And she will hit you with a frying pan if you dare imply otherwise.

 

Well, actually, confusing her for the Kyuubi made her laugh, what really set her off was Naruto saying in response "What an uncouth laugh! You think you can fool me by disguising yourself as a woman?" So...

What he said

In the first place, I didn't mean to imply that adult Kushina was as wild as Vixen, I was saying that she's still not exactly what I'd call refined. Relatively speaking Kushina is more refined than Vixen. She's actually a great cook, for example.

 

Bah. Vixen is, if she wants, better cook than Kushina. SFY for you.

Though I admit that my initial impression of Kushina is darkened by her endless torture of Kurama, the Kyuubi. Take note that it was BEFORE the whole Kyuubi attack on Leaf Village. Wich, in hindsight, was kind of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Kushina tortured Kyuubi for "reasons" and the fox turned stupid enough from all that to buy into Madara's Sharingan Hypnosis easily.

On the other hand, Biju are fucking immortal and kind of re-assemble when destroyed. What were that woman thinking by torturing one of these critters into insanity and hate-boner against her village?

Lastly Vixen is a fox, and Kushina is an woman who tortured a fox innocently. *Shakes newspaper at Kushina*

 

I remember reading about how Kushina "improved" the Jinchuriki Seal on herself. Wich included, for the Biju, being impaled by all arms and legs to a piece of rock. Add chains. In the imaginary space where Naruto was meeting his prisoner.

 

Okay, this is getting pretty off topic guys.

 

Posted this on 4chan and I'd thought I'd post it here as well. It's just a mad ramble about 3e Infernals that I thought about while driving today.

I really like Infernals so here’s my thoughts about what I want out of 3e Infernals. The biggest with what I want out of 3e Infernals is that they would have to be the core Exalted in which everything is based around. Plus the massive amounts of charms.

I got introduced to Exalted back in I think 2013. When the Kickstarter was already going on. I got introduced to Exalted through fanfiction. Starting with EarthScorpion’s A Green Sun Illuminates the Void and then other crossovers mostly involving character getting Infernal Exaltations. I read about all the cool things they could do like their green acid like fire.

So basically I got introduced to Exalted through Infernals when 2e was finished. Going over the material and stuff I’ve come to the conclusion I don’t think I would have liked them If I had been playing since 2e began and my introduction was solely through their core book. I say this because what I like most about Infernals comes from The Broken Winged Crane and all of the fan written charms for the other Yozi. I admit that I don’t particularly like the Caste Yozi though I admit that I really like a lot of SWLIHN’s charms. Hegra, Elloge, Oramus, Metagaos, and the others all have really cool charms and themes that I love way more than those that belong to the five core Caste Yozi. Though I admit I also like how much of a backstabbing dick the Ebon Dragon can be.

Then there’s two more things that I really love about Infernals that come from The Broken Winged Crane. One is the concept of Heretical Charms. The idea of taking parts of concepts belonging to different Yozi then fusing them and making an entirely new charm that only Infernals can use is awesome. Then the second thing I love from Broken Winged Crane is of course Devil-Tigers. Transcending your humanity and becoming your Primordial that unlike the Yozi is not bound, crippled, or inflexible as they are. Seriously, Devil-Tigers are awesome.

So moving on to Infernals in 3e. I both like and dislike the idea of the Infernals being ability based. On one hand it makes things so much similar and easier. But at the same time I’m worried about losing access to Yozi charms. But I suppose it could work. The preview charms look okay. Ideally they’ll have charms calling on the abilities of Yozi other than just Malfeas, Cecelyne, SWLIHN, Adorjan, and the Ebon Dragon. Though it’s probably not going to happen considering the massive charm bloat that would cause plus all the overlapping. I just really want to harness the power of the Yozi.

I did float the idea of instead of having access to Solar Circle sorcery they have an alternate Yozi themed sorcery circle or something.

Maybe if anyone is still playing Exalted when Infernals come out 50 years from now they’ll write a bunch of charms reflecting all the cool Yozi like Hegra, Elloge, Oramus, and Metagaos.

I just really want 3e Infernals to have the ability to become Devil-Tiger or something like it. That was my favorite part of Infernals and what really drew me to them. It reminded me of becoming a Daemon Prince in Warhammer but better. Maybe

The new Shintai stuff looks really cool. Maybe it’s the answer to my desire for Devil-Tigers. Somehow it will eventually let you become something like one. Even if it doesn’t the new Shintai stuff is interesting.

Of course the main issue with a lot of this stuff is not to make them way more powerful than Solars which are of course the main Exalted type.

 

That was already the case in 2nd edition

 

So, I'm growing my list of homebrew charms for ~2e Alchemicals. A couple that I've already shared. And the list is due for at least one more in the next few days.

I would very much like feedback on things like fluff. Or re-wordings. Or general mechanics concerns.

Please be gentle.