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Governor's Gambit - Star Wars SI into Imperial Governor

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Freefaller said:
I can only imagine the latest additions of shuttle hangars attached to the sides of the towers were a work of frustration, considering they can't reasonably make the building taller than the Mega-buildings. They can make them prettier though.
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The rage of those Mindan architects could power 10,000 Sith lightsabers.
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Myr'thos stood to my side, clad in a simple, if imposing set of red and black armor. They had initially wanted a cape, but Gary told them off. Capes are for central figures, not bodyguards, and draw too much attention.

It was honestly hilarious watching them argue about it. Myr'thos wasn't even doing it out of anger or hatred, just legitimate aesthetic debates.

Apparently, fashion was quite important during their time.
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Gary continues to be frighteningly powerful by naysaying an Old Sith from an era where character customization could take hours. Truly the PR persons are the most powerful. Waiting for him to give Palpatine a dressing down for stumbling around in a glorified bath robe.
Freefaller said:
Thorne is around my height, just shy of 6ft. A very pale man, it looks like he would get sunburnt from a desklap. His eyes, however, were in stark contrast to the rest of his complexion.
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Oh no Thorne is a desk jockey. Not much field experience, but heavy on ideological fanaticism. Probably got sent out after Yavin due to the ISB trying to look more proactive.
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"I was sent here to hunt down the rebel scum that dared to attack the Empire. What leads do you have?"

His voice was sharp, a sort of professional monotone that likely hid a fierce underbelly.

"The Commander will have more details for you, Agent. As far as I know, little has been found. These terrorists use droids as fodder and secrecy as a cloak."

His gaze is intense, but I stand my ground.

"No leads? You have found nothing?"

"As I said, Agent. The Commander has more details in regards to what we know. I urge you to speak to her at the barracks for further information."

I can tell he wants to say something, but I continue. He seems dead set on interrogating me about the rebels, but I have other matters to attend to regarding his arrival.
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Thorne assumes the Governor would have all the answers due to them controlling everything. On most Imperial worlds he would be right due to Imperial Governors tending to be control freaks.

Little does Thorne know that Las practices the untraditional way of delegation. Las is more the administrative leader than anything military. It is like the relation between a president and a high ranking criminal investigation. They might get briefed by those in charge of it, but they aren't going to be expected to know every little detail.
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We continue walking through the station, people parting before us as we make our way into the barracks.

"Slavery removes local jobs. It takes a usually significant portion of the population and refuses to pay them, meaning those people aren't spending money. If a large portion of people aren't spending money, then businesses catering to those people don't come to fruition. And competition to said businesses doesn't become a thing. The economy doesn't grow, only the wallets of those who own the most slaves."
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Plus even if you enslave everyone, that just means you personally are now in charge of finding them food and shelter. Before they would wander around, choose a spot, and make money and food for themselves. Now you have to decide where everyone lives, what they do, and how to get food for them.

Way too much flimsiwork. Also it will cost a lot of money. Which you will not have because the economy is stagnant due to you enslaving everyone.
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"Commander Grant, this is Agent Thorne, here on behalf of the ISB to investigate the recent terrorist attacks. You are to collaborate with him on this assignment."

Turning to face both of them, I continue.

"If you have any need of additional support, don't hesitate to ask. I want these rebels dead and gone ASAP. If you have need of me, I'll be in my office, as usual. Feel free to contact my secretary."
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Thorne: "Ah this Governor is a lazy one. Leaving everything to his subordinates while he relaxes in his office. Still workable at least."

Meanwhile Las: "Time to put in another 10 hours doing flimsiwork."
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"The aliens. Why not motivate them with fear?"

What is this guy, a Tarkin supremacist?

"Fear causes anger. Anger, hatred. And hatred breeds dissent. If the people are kept happy, they have no reason to rebel. No reason to take up arms against their rulers."
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The key word here being "majority". If the vast majority of the population have no reason to rebel, they'll jump on or sell out the ones that find some inane reason to do so anyway.
Freefaller said:
Getting back on my tram, I pour myself a glass of chocolate milk. And yes, I keep some chilled for these occasions.

I can stop at any time, I promise.
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Some Governors have entire slave harems or enough drugs in their system to make a rehab worker have a heart attack. Las is a chocoholic. Imagine trying to find dirt on Las and this is what you find.
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I down the entire glass in a single shot, then offer the rest of the carton to my bodyguards while I look down at my PDA.
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The contrast between the crisp and clear governor to this more relaxed one offering his subordinates iced chocolate. Waiting for the day Thorne gets called into Las' office expecting wine, and Las offers him his collection of chocolatey beverages.
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I've got a bevy of things to do today, and they all make me want to go find a suicide spot.

Now that I think about it, what is the Mindan suicide rate? Should look into that, cause I'm not sure how much we've invested into mental health facilities around the system.
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Normal people response to fear: "That was terrifying, how do I prevent that from happening to me again?"

Las the Best Governor: "That was terrifying. Is this is what my people have gone through with the Empire in the past? I should build more mental health facilities to help them deal with any lingering trauma."

And he wonders why the people love him so much.
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Veers sent back her recommendations for cruisers, and I ended up deciding on the Gladiator-Class.

The Strike-Class had been a close contender, especially because I remember some variant or refit of it that made it far better at managing TIE's, but even with that it had a higher crew count.

Which was weird, considering its 200 meters shorter, but it is what it is. A Gladiator is bigger, has more fighter capacity, can operate for long periods of time on its own, and extend the range of fighter based patrols.

Of course, if they want to buy one, we offer them some homegrown TIEs at a little discount.
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Honestly if Las can manage to pump out Gladiators, the Mindan Trade League is pretty much set in terms of fleet production for most of the Civil War even post-Endor. 600 meters is all you really are going to need in terms of hull for this section of the galaxy.

The Gladiators acting as capital ships, Raiders and Vigils acting in the destroyer, frigate, and corvette roles, and Gozantis and TIE Patrollers acting as small escorts. Overall a pretty agile and workable set up for an Outer Rim Warfleet that Minda can produce entirely independently.

One that relies on coordination without some massive Star Destroyer eating up all the strategic value. Minda isn't going to be producing any full on Star Destroyers any time soon. Only the really big shipyards of the galaxy can eat the costs and economies of scale to handle a full production run of those behemoths, and making one or two just isn't worth the initial costs.
 
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The reformation has the same effect of the treaty of versailles naval limition on Germany navy.
Experience designer, gone. Shipyard and support industry, downsided. War game to test out doctrine and tactic, cutted.
In the end, Bismarck was just the Bayern with updated technology. Not the drastic change of design principles form the New Mexico(Standard BB) to the North Carolina(Fast BB).
So the Venator would just be an old Repulic design with morden technology.
 
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I love that our dear Governor is technically educating this Agent.
"See this? With them happy, they'll cooperate. They'd sooner sell out the bad actors than suffer and lose it all."

I expect some explosions soon.
Maybe another propaganda piece that makes our dear Governor a badass hero.
And maybe, just maybe, the Rebel Alliance and Empire work together somewhat to end the Radicals and Warhawks.
Just my dreams and aspirations really~
 
Yacov said:
One that relies on coordination without some massive Star Destroyer eating up all the strategic value. Minda isn't going to be producing any full on Star Destroyers any time soon. Only the really big shipyards of the galaxy can eat the costs and economies of scale to handle a full production run of those behemoths, and making one or two just isn't worth the initial costs.
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Yeah, Gladiator is basically an all-rounder (capital weapons, orbital support, fighters, infantry barracks, vehicle bays) but is big enough to deal with most pirates and even rebel forces. It won't be able to stand up to real capitals but for Las purposes its basically perfect since in a pinch you can just drop Gladiator on most targets and expect it to come out on top.
 
auraofcalm said:
"But we're the bad guys. We're supposed to be evil. WHY AREN'T YOU BEING EVIL?!"

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*bro gets back to Imperial Center*

"How was your trip to Minda, Agent?"

"0/10 insufficient evil cannot recommend."

"How about the terrorists?"

"What terrorists?"
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Considering the Agent entire "interrogation" revolved around "WHY U NO DEW DIS EBUL?" instead of anything else proves that your lines are a legitimate result of this entire malarkey.
 
My take on the Harrower is to have Myr'thos complain about the lack of an equivalent vessel to R&D. Then the engineers can recreate their own modern version under our sith friends guidance with restructured and modernized internals and weapons.

This should hopefully let the new ship have 120 Ties up from 95 old sith fighters and bombers, 8 twin heavy turbolasers, 24 triple medium turbolasers, 8 single ion cannons, 4 proton torpedo launchers, 4 concussion missile tubes, and 32 quad point-defence lasers cannons based on known ship armaments.

My suggestion is that R&D propose building a prototype of the ship based on my specifications to Las as an alternative to victory class designs but with the benefits of the vast war experience of the old sith empire that the modern imperial navy has yet to achieve, to be commissioned during the battle of Endor. This prevents what is essentially a capital ship from entering the stage too early while also giving Las a powerful new ship to add to his arsenal.
 
Zoolimar said:
It won't be able to stand up to real capitals but for Las purposes its basically perfect since in a pinch you can just drop Gladiator on most targets and expect it to come out on top.
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I can see most Rebel flotillas in Bright Jewel being mainly made up of a couple CR90s or DP20s, with the rest being made up of vessels under 100 meters like light freighters and squadrons of star fighters. At least a fleet being able to be supported via the smaller CEC and civilian sections of the Mindan Shipyard the local Rebel Alliance has access to via the cell operating out of there. Enough to take on small task forces and small odds of beating a Gladiator if it is entirely alone (which it shouldn't be).

Rebel "capital" ships like Assault Frigates and Mon Calamari ships are going to be reserved for more important fronts then this relative backwater. Confederation ships could be used, but most of those are probably wrecks and most are decades out of repair at this point.

With a threat profile like that, a Gladiator led flotilla should be more than enough in most cases. Even taking on pirate strongholds or Rebel bases planetside shouldn't be too difficult. It's two year supply capacity allowing for long term sieges if necessary.
 
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To be fair to Thorne, as part of ISB the level of internal policing, internal as in both by fellow agents and by yourself, has prolly caused him to instinctively parrot the party lines out of self-preservation. I have no idea if this incorporates Andor lore or not, but if it does this is during Lagret's tenure and after the ISB's immense failure in containing info on the Death Star, so everyone is likely a) massively on edge and b) varying shades of incompetent, overly ruthless, and both. Most of the competent agents and supervisors are either dead or currently indisposed.
 
It remise me of Rule of aquisition 🤪😛, Well be fun if self insert as Trade Fédération lecture about Rule of aquisition
 
Freefaller said:
"The aliens. Why not motivate them with fear?"

What is this guy, a Tarkin supremacist?

"Fear causes anger. Anger, hatred. And hatred breeds dissent. If the people are kept happy, they have no reason to rebel. No reason to take up arms against their rulers."
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Sigh, cant wait to see him try and ruin things lol. I wonder if here's gonna try to beat someone in public, or some thing else equally as evil and stupid lol.

More importantly, how will Las get rid of him if need be.
 
well he does have a willing helping hand to remove the agent if need be. muahahaah

oh I'm sorry but your agent found the rebels but ran ahead of the trooper's and thus died by rebel blaster. (totally not minda blasters)
 
I do wonder how the interaction between the Agent and the other people here will feel. Because I bed that for a lot of people in the administration on the planet, and even for the society, the way the current Gov is running his place is "how the empire is supposed to be governed" based on all the promises the propaganda spreads, even immigrants from other deeply imperial planets would eventually get to believe that their previous planet was just ruled by an incompetent person.

Hell, this might cause a local myth that the local Gov is actually doing things right how the emperor wants, and will start spreading a mythology of "if only the emperor knew about all these incompetent fools", because such an ideology is easier to spread when there are good examples.
 
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I do wonder how the interaction between the Agent and the other people here will feel. Because I bed that for a lot of people in the administration on the planet, and even for the society, the way the current Gov is running his place is "how the empire is supposed to be governed" based on all the promises the propaganda spreads, even immigrants from other deeply imperial planets would eventually get to believe that their previous planet was just ruled by an incompetent person.

Hell, this might cause a local myth that the local Gov is actually doing things right how the emperor wants, and will start spreading a mythology of "if only the emperor knew about all these incompetent fools", because such an ideology is easier to spread when there are good examples.
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It was all the Rebels doing it, they killed the competente ones fast and sabotages the others so they could not be effective and all that. The Rebels are the root of all Evil
 
Looking at the comments, it seems like I'm the only one who read this chapter and ended up with the vibe that Thorne is a near-human alien pretending to be human.

Unnaturally pale skin? Unnaturally dark eyes? Buncha questions about the treatment of aliens? IDK that's just the vibe I got.
 
Solar_High_Tide said:
Looking at the comments, it seems like I'm the only one who read this chapter and ended up with the vibe that Thorne is a near-human alien pretending to be human.

Unnaturally pale skin? Unnaturally dark eyes? Buncha questions about the treatment of aliens? IDK that's just the vibe I got.
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Holy shit you might be correct
 
-Why not use fear?
-Because, agent, Minda is small system in perephery and I therefore don't have enought of the qualified personal to get satisfactory results with fear.
Too little and people become unruly, too much and they either break which leads to the drop in long term efficiency, burn out that usually ends in loss of working hands or they decide that they can't take it anymore and lash out no matter the consequences. Is your interest satisfied or maybe you need something else to help you find those terrorists, agent?

-Why not use fear?
-Found those terrorists, agent? It's quite interesting how you are asking all of this instead of your active investigation.

-Why not rise taxes. Empire needs all the funds in those daring times.
-You know,agent. All your questions makes me wonder if you're actually do anything else but investigate the rule of my administration, like searching for terrorists for example. Makes me think about calling my sister for clarification on your job.
-Sister?
-Yes,sister. Agent Mola's time as I understand is in high demand in central offices but with all of your investigations into me I'm sure she wouldn't mind investigating you.
-...
-On the side note. Thank you for talking notes of all those small failures and mistakes made by Minda on your new PDA. We have already dispatched teams to fix them.
 
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Traditonal Thinking
Omake: Traditonal Thinking

POV Governor Fotz, Duradun, Myto Sector

Fotz glared out the reinforced window as she surveyed her domain. Not even Duradun's gorgeous ocean view could keep the latest setback in her inevitable rise to prominence from weighing on her mind.

Fotz's application to join that new Guild making waves around the Myto sector had been rejected. Her august charisma proved insufficient for them to recognize her as one of their betters. They even had the gall to use the excuse that her planet had "unfriendly business practices".

Really! Does that upstart Las not know she is Governor Fotz? Her innovative agrarian reforms were praised by the sector capital for her commitment to sustainability. Demolishing those wasteful green spaces and redirecting the Khil's exuberance away from the unstable tourism industry towards productive and reliable aquaculture was lauded as a stroke of genius.

Case in point. Fotz spotted yet another Shad'ruu war barge from her patrons come to visit her domain. No doubt come to fill their cargo bays with Duradun's galaxy renowned fish and "land squids". Honestly, those Khil learn to walk on two feet and suddenly they think they are equal to a pure blooded Imperial, those arrogant cretins.

Her patrons were so impressed with Duradun's quality that they even offer Fotz gifts. Those Dunelizard medium fighters would do wonders in defending Duradun's borders in the black. Covering such minor tasks would free up her TIEs to engage in crucial objectives such as finding and bombarding unsanctioned domiciles in Duradun's few archipelagos.

Thinking about fighters brought Fotz back to her current predicament. She had hoped to replace her aging Bayonet with one of those Gladiators Minda was rumored to begin building. Unfortunately jealously towards Fotz's brilliant methods of governance had stymied those efforts.

Nevertheless, Fotz had secured alternatives means to acquire cruisers. Thankfully her patrons had come through for her yet again. They had informed that they could acquire not one, but five cruisers through their contacts for a fraction of the price of a Gladiator.

Let those fools prance around with their mere Gladiators. Her new ships had taken the worst the Clone Wars could have thrown at them and came out sparkling like new. Soon they will stand in awe at Governor Fotz's mighty fleet spearheaded by her invincible Citadel Class Cruisers!

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This Omake spawned by the debate over the past while in the thread about cruisers. How Las could have missed such an obvious choice as the ILH-KK Citadel-class civilian cruiser, I don't know. Pirates tremble at its 36 meters of grit and determination.

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Sam I Am said:
With this one sentence, he has sentenced himself to the position of Imperial Regent/Emperor. It's happening.
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Waiting for him to quote Machiavelli. To rule you must either be loved or feared. If you must chose then chose fear. But never be hated. And then having to explain the different types of fear to an increasingly interested ISB agent trying to fit 'people care more about paying their mortgage and are scared of losing their job' into a mental model of oppression while also being increasingly glad that Mola didn't join ISB because this man is too damn effective.

Mola is out on the Rim pioneering fear.
 
ServingPlate said:
I mean, yeah. If you're an autocratic ruler, but almost all your citizens live well, then they won't overthrow you. Hell, they'll even be loyal to you!

Autocracies inevitably collapse because power ends up in hands too selfish, malicious, or incompetent to sustain prosperity. Or external pressures undercut the country's stability. But that'll happen on a larger timescale than Lars currently has to worry about.
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Thing is, by and large, power ending up in selfish, malicious, and/or incompetent hands is something of a natural consequence of autocracies. Or rather, because even an autocrat depend on others to actually rule, they need to secure their collaboration, if not their loyalty. Autocrats like super-brainwashers that can scale up forever, or super-AIs with unlimited drone bodies and multitasking aside, no matter how strong the ruler, they need people to actually be their eyes and hands beyond their immediate reach. That's also true for other forms of government, but for autocracies that generally means concentrating power in fewer hands. And, specially for new ones that are lacking in tradition, institutions, and/or inertia, you aren't going to get people loyal the position and the job itself, but people that are good at getting and keeping power. Generally ambitious, not all that scrupulous, and nothing to say they are actually good at the "using power for the greater good" part of it. And those guys also need their own subordinates, with the same issue as you have. You're going to need to get them to be, if not loyal, at least collaborative towards you.

And for that you're going to need to pay them. Not only credits, but power and favoring their interests. And they do the same for their own. It doesn't really matter if they are competent or not. If they are malicious or not. If they are selfish or not. The autocrat needs to to rule, and, again, specially for new autocracies, they don't have the weight of tradition, inertia, or stronger institutions to do the work for them. Thus, power goes to shitty hands.

Now, the Empire is a bit of different case: Between inheriting a lot of their stuff from the Republic, and Papaltine, at least when he cares to put the effort, being very good at large scale manipulation, they managed institutions a lot stronger than one might have otherwise expected in a very short time. And its size does mean that purging a few problematic high positioned assholes don't break the whole thing. But things are still a mess, with rife with corruption and abuse. And it's not all Papaltine is an asshole who actually wants the most suffering and abuse.

Minda though? Minda gets a number of massive advantages: They are small enough that even with lots of delegation, the numbers of people that need to be propitiated are manageable. Being a member of the Empire means they can take at least some advantage of the institutions and the size of the Empire itself, while also remaining small. Or to keep power, so long his superiors are content with him, he has a lot less chance of a coup or otherwise being forcibly removed. And, there's the protagonist-power: Or rather, while he doesn't quite realize it, our protagonist managed direct personal loyalty from a lot of the people he needs to rule. And he lucked out that a lot of the interests both those and the rest of the people he depends to keep on ruling, have are reasonably manageable or within what he'd already be doing.

But even then, he's still having to propitiate people he very much would rather not, such as the Moff, this ISB agent, and more, even at some cost to his society. It's still "within his budget" so to speak, but those are the sort of costs that are higher, by and large, in autocracies, specially new ones.

Also, for a more generalized but more in-depth explanation:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
 
"The Harrower came up a lot, which is kinda weird, because why the hell would anyone build a 1000+ yr old starship?"

For the uninitiated, tech levels and advances in Star Wars is really weird. (Blame all the religious wars.). Tech at a GALACTIC Level has regressed and advanced multiple times since they started recording history.

Most of the time older preRussan Reformation technology was better especially military. Most clearly seen in the war droids and programming (See basilisk war droids). Old republic era had personal shields, New Republic era and after kinda lost that (blame the Banite Sith).

Go back further to the Gree or the Rakatan and it gets even crazier.
 
Nikoli said:
"The Harrower came up a lot, which is kinda weird, because why the hell would anyone build a 1000+ yr old starship?"

For the uninitiated, tech levels and advances in Star Wars is really weird. (Blame all the religious wars.). Tech at a GALACTIC Level has regressed and advanced multiple times since they started recording history.

Most of the time older preRussan Reformation technology was better especially military. Most clearly seen in the war droids and programming (See basilisk war droids). Old republic era had personal shields, New Republic era and after kinda lost that (blame the Banite Sith).

Go back further to the Gree or the Rakatan and it gets even crazier.
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This is hilarious levels of Tolkien legacy power growth going on.
 
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@Freefaller

My apologies if this was addressed before hand. But would it be possible to have a list of current ships slated for creation and production at the shipyards? I would be easily do it myself, I'm just unsure exactly which are being produced and which where just spoken of.
 
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@Freefaller

My apologies if this was addressed before hand. But would it be possible to have a list of current ships slated for creation and production at the shipyards? I would be easily do it myself, I'm just unsure exactly which are being produced and which where just spoken of.
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Nah it hasn't been listed just yet. In terms of ships properly slated for construction, there is a pre-order list of around 300 ships in total. Most are corvettes and frigates, some are cruisers. The current ships planned are the Vigil-Class Corvette, Raider-Class Corvette, and the Imperial Customs Corvette, along with a carrier config of the latter. Frigates haven't been chosen yet, as initial orders are solely for corvettes. The one cruiser planned for the yards is the Gladiator-Class.
 
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Nah it hasn't been listed just yet. In terms of ships properly slated for construction, there is a pre-order list of around 300 ships in total. Most are corvettes and frigates, some are cruisers. The current ships planned are the Vigil-Class Corvette, Raider-Class Corvette, and the Imperial Customs Corvette, along with a carrier config of the latter. Frigates haven't been chosen yet, as initial orders are solely for corvettes. The one cruiser planned for the yards is the Gladiator-Class.
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Can I recommend some? Immobilizer 418 Interdictor-class Heavy Cruiser or the larger Interdictor-class heavy cruiser, theres also the Vindicator-class heavy cruiser.
 
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