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On a Pale Horse (Umamusume/Youjo Senki)

I like the friend angle more and imagine that Haru decides to lock in and gets S on turf by racing along Shirogane, builds her stamina to long races so she can keep up and talk with her and ends up winning the Arima Kinen by inertia lol
Maybe Shirogane will show Haru how to run deliveries and doing so she ends up building up the stamina needed to run Long races while she is running around delivering things to all her fans and helping out. I believe the story explanation for her failure was that Haru was more focused on being friendly with all her fans than she was on training enough to build up endurance.
 
Maybe Shirogane will show Haru how to run deliveries and doing so she ends up building up the stamina needed to run Long races while she is running around delivering things to all her fans and helping out. I believe the story explanation for her failure was that Haru was more focused on being friendly with all her fans than she was on training enough to build up endurance.
That and the fact that she actually doesnt train seriously when she is told advice she listens for a bit but with time she always defaults to her usual habits at least when i played her career mode i always see how she listens and tries to mimic King Halo and asks other racers how to improve but she always always ends doing her own thing or gets distracted. It would be sweet if Shirogane can actually share a bit of her focus and diligence while Haru her joy of race and the desire to win like Ying and Yang it would be a perfect complement imo.
 
That and the fact that she actually doesnt train seriously when she is told advice she listens for a bit but with time she always defaults to her usual habits at least when i played her career mode i always see how she listens and tries to mimic King Halo and asks other racers how to improve but she always always ends doing her own thing or gets distracted. It would be sweet if Shirogane can actually share a bit of her focus and diligence while Haru her joy of race and the desire to win like Ying and Yang it would be a perfect complement imo.
Plus, if Haru starts hanging around Shirogane, Haru is likely to drag her friend Rice into things as well. I really liked Rice and Haru's friendship in the game.
 
Shirogane accidentally having a clique of umas that seems opposite of her general attitude is a hilarious thought.

I feel like Shirogane is going to lock in/earn her motivation by, through her paranoia, think that Being X is out to get her inside the race track even if Being X is nowhere to be seen. Like say interacting with Matikanefukukitaru accidentally triggering Tanya by talking about Shiraoki.
 
Shirogane's gonna accidentally overhear Tazuna and Yayoi talking about finances and mistakenly think the finances they're talking about are about the academy and racing itself being in danger from Being X's machinations instead of simply Yayoi spending over her budget and then she'll lock in to do her best to make every race a nail biting popular spectacle. She'll ramp up hype and specifically learn to run in such a way that shifts everyone into the most exciting spots.
 
Her skill reduces the effect of debuff skills, then the yellow version buffs her endurance and acceleration when she gets hit with a debuff. Destroys Evil Nature.
This is funny to me because Nice Nature's nickname is "Bronze Collector" due to her seemingly being magnetised to 3rd place.

Meanwhile Salaryman was known for coming in 2nd in everything he tried his hand at while searching for the area he truly excelled, a joke that followed once he reincarnated with the silver wings badge and her nickname "White Silver".

Of course Shirogane beats Evil Nature.
One is Silver and the other is Bronze.
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Shirogane accidentally having a clique of umas that seems opposite of her general attitude is a hilarious thought.

I feel like Shirogane is going to lock in/earn her motivation by, through her paranoia, think that Being X is out to get her inside the race track even if Being X is nowhere to be seen. Like say interacting with Matikanefukukitaru accidentally triggering Tanya by talking about Shiraoki.

Shirogane's gonna accidentally overhear Tazuna and Yayoi talking about finances and mistakenly think the finances they're talking about are about the academy and racing itself being in danger from Being X's machinations instead of simply Yayoi spending over her budget and then she'll lock in to do her best to make every race a nail biting popular spectacle. She'll ramp up hype and specifically learn to run in such a way that shifts everyone into the most exciting spots.
I would totally read both of those stories if someone wrote them.
 
Beyond Shirogane's lack of a strong drive/dream to race, I think there's something even bigger holding her back, something unthinkable for an uma: Tanya cannot see racing as something precious, something that truly matters.

Think back to Chapter 5, and how Shiro's reaction to Steady Distance's high stakes win is...disinterest. She doesn't belittle Steady's victory, and is happy for her friend, but to her it's just an achievement like any other - something to be pleased about, but nothing more than that. It's just a race.

Tanya sees value in racing, but only in terms of its social/economic benefits, rather than something valuable in itself. She enjoys races in her own way, but they're just one of multiple things she likes, not something she sees as a lifelong passion. If forced to be entirely honest, she'd probably admit that there are careers she'd prefer instead of racing.

This disconnect, in my opinion is an even greater hurdle to her future as a racer than simply forging an ambition to win. Because at the heart of it, races aren't important to Tanya in the way they are for other uma. She'll seek victories to ensure she has a stable income and for her own pride, but her life as a racer doesn't actually matter to her, and that's the foundation for racing.

I think her trainer and comrades might gradually pick up inklings of Shirogane's divergent view of racing - when she treats reviewing old races as more of a tedious homework than her actual "leisure" homework, when she doesn't show particular excitement one way or another in others' races or her own. But it's probably going to be hard for them to piece together, and will hit them all the harder with shock if they even reach the revelation.

Because from what I understand, this disconnection from racing is a fundamentally alien perspective for an uma to have. Uma are born to run - partially in body, but more deeply in spirit, reborn from souls that wished with all their hearts to race once again. But Shirogane was born from Tanya, with no such dream fueling her at the core. Racing is just something to do like anything else, and that disconnect makes me all the more curious on where her journey as a racer will carry her.
 
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Shirogane's disinterest in racing is probably going to hold back what in the game would be her stat gains. Without the true drive for racing she can't or won't push herself like the other Umas will.

It's not to say she'll slack, Shirogane will put her usual Tanyaness into her training but she just won't improve at the same rate as her peers do, and eventually she's going to hit a wall and she's either going to have to find the will and passion to truly run, or her career is going to crash and she'll never rise out of the ranks of mediocrity. She'll just be "average".

Probably when she truly runs face first into this wall and actually feels her place at Tracen is being threatened by this, will she truly try to address the problem with all of her will.

Hell this would probably be the usual issue, complex, or roadblock that the Uma's run into during their career mode campaign in the Umamusume game. Tanya's lack of passion and interest in racing as a sport will be her career mode issue.
 
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Plus, if Haru starts hanging around Shirogane, Haru is likely to drag her friend Rice into things as well. I really liked Rice and Haru's friendship in the game.
Mayano, Haru, Rice and now Shiro. The Short Gang allegations will never go away. Mayano and Haru starts plotting to get fellow shorties to join in on Shiro's training because they observed a pattern and are running with it.
 
Thank you for the new chapter, been waiting for this!

Rudolf is really sharp, I love their interaction with Shirogane. Also Shirogane finally can eat as much as she want.
I really can't wait to see her interact with other umamusume lol.

Also I've been playing the game for a week now (thanks to this fic and the Beginning of a New Era movie), it's cool how my perspective changed from previous chapter to this new one.
 
If I remember right she can still somewhat use magic, if she did, would she have won or just made it a lot closer?
 
Lol, maybe that passion can be found if they stick Shirogane on a plane or something. Though I do believe from some earlier chapters that Tanya!Shirogane actually felt a slight sensation or clarity akin to flight when she was in her "barrel everything through" mindset/zone. So maybe all is not lost in terms of not needing to be "forced" (by herself or other expectations) to really be invested racing?
 
She hasn't internalized that yet. The others noted that while she ate fast, she didn't eat very much. She might need a meal plan as part of her training regimen, one that simply reads "MORE."
Oguri Cap: "I have found my apprentice. Together, the world will be our feeding ground."
 
Oguri Cap: "I have found my apprentice. Together, the world will be our feeding ground."
Honestly, I think it would be an Uma like Super Creek that would be more focused on making sure Shirogane got enough to eat. Oguri Cap has too much of a risk getting distracted eating her own food.
 
Honestly, I think it would be an Uma like Super Creek that would be more focused on making sure Shirogane got enough to eat. Oguri Cap has too much of a risk getting distracted eating her own food.

And she might get the bowls mixed up and end up eating shiros food haha
 
Something about her not getting into the zone because she doesn't want to then just going into the zone on a dime, makes me think she and Happy Meek would get on well. Not because their personalities are in any way similar, though they might come across as more similar than they actually are. I just think they would vibe well.
 
Probably when she truly runs face first into this wall and actually feels her place at Tracen is being threatened by this, will she truly try to address the problem with all of her will.

Hell this would probably be the usual issue, complex, or roadblock that the Uma's run into during their career mode campaign in the Umamusume game. Tanya's lack of passion and interest in racing as a sport will be her career mode issue.
The tricky thing is that I get the feeling that Shirogane already anticipates this happening, and her solution is less of proving herself as a racer and more of having set up back-up plans for herself. She'll put in effort, of course, as she's dutiful and she doesn't quit and she wants to make her family happy. If the crisis point happens soon enough, before she's been able to set the full groundwork for her alternate career pathways, she'll have more of a drive to push past her barriers, for now at least. But if she reaches a solid wall in the path as a racer and the only ways forward are to give it her all or give up on it, she'll choose to give it up. It got her far enough, and she's grateful for the opportunities it gave her, but now it's time to move on with her life and find a "real" career.

It'll be interesting to see how Hana and the other racers can get Shiro to commit fully to racing. I kind of wonder if there will be a point where they try to give Shiro an ultimatum with the intent of igniting her drive, only for Shiro to choose to move on to another career, leaving them scrambling to convince her to reconsider before it's too late.

Edit: I kind of see things playing out as a deconstruction of the typical sports movie scene, where the coach motivates the promising yet unmotivated athlete by giving them an ultimatum bluff to shape up or go home. Only unlike in the movies where this gets the athlete to push past their limits, Shiro might just go, "Okay", and pack up, maybe a bit disappointed but having other paths to fall back on.
 
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i wonder if the supernatural charisma of Haru could also affect Shirogane's fatigue and mood after the race as the rest of the umas.
Probably not, since Haru's style of encouragement is not one Shirogane would really respond to. That isn't to say she would dislike Haru, just not really be affected by her enthusiasm.

Shirogane will look Haru in the eyes and say, " I don't want to be your friend." And nobody will know what to do.
It won't be that directly antagonistic but Shiro would likely think that Haru is mentally challenged and is part of some kind of disability program...or conclude she's undercover security. It's relatively difficult to truly dislike someone who is so gormlessly friendly and happy even if they are not very good at their job. And even if Haru isn't the best racer her mistakes largely don't negatively affect other people. Shirogane would be mildly perplexed how Haru manages to stay in the academy, which could play into her conclusion that she's undercover security or a designated gate filler.

On the other hand Shirogane learning and using say, "Frenzy" would be Super Effective on everyone else.
Other debuff umas: "Get out of the way! I'm gonna crush you!"
Shirogane:


*Blinks and rereads the previous part* *facepalms* Darn it Rudolf!!!
It is mildly amusing how the title of this story is a pun.

That's a fair critique by Rudolf.And to be fair to Shirogane she at the moment doesn't really have any real reason to want to "win".
Shirogane does have a desire to win, for the money. On the other hand she indeed does not have a strong desire to reach for the top, because she knows most top runners have fairly short careers.

I imagine the moment that she does enter the Zone Shirogane gains that "hopped up on magic meth unhinged smile Tanya is known for.
Her skill immediately rushes other runners around her as they try to get away.

I forseen a bit of character development in Shiroganes future to find the reason/motivation she needs to win a G1 race against formidable rivals.
What kind of motivation is Shirogane weak to? Encouragement? Money? Early Retirement? Perceived Expectations?

I thought it would be funny if Mayano dad comes around to visit his daughter and Shiro gets along disturbingly well with him as a military man and air jock such that Mayano feels her poaition as daughter is threatened.
I mean, if she was offered a ride in a fighter jet or airplane Shirogane would definitely take it.

Shirogane is going to traumatize some poor newbie pace setter in her first official race isn't she? Having Shirogane lock in and follow directly in your wake the entire race would be rather unnerving to a less experienced Uma
This is not helped by how she likes to run exactly in her opponent's blind spot, and is on the smaller side so not every runner would recognize she was there initially.

It would be sweet if Shirogane can actually share a bit of her focus and diligence while Haru her joy of race and the desire to win like Ying and Yang it would be a perfect complement imo.
Shirogane passes on her technique of weaponizing past life trauma. Which might actually be fairly effective for Haru since she did have quite a bit of it.

Meanwhile Salaryman was known for coming in 2nd in everything he tried his hand at while searching for the area he truly excelled, a joke that followed once he reincarnated with the silver wings badge and her nickname "White Silver".
Shirogane even means silver, lol.

I think there's something even bigger holding her back, something unthinkable for an uma: Tanya cannot see racing as something precious, something that truly matters.
This, in my opinion is an even greater hurdle to her future as a racer than simply forging an ambition to win. Because at the heart of it, races aren't important to Tanya in the way they are for other uma. She'll seek victories to ensure she has a stable income and for her own pride, but the goal of being a racer doesn't actually matter to her, and that's the foundation for racing.
Yeah, racing is just another sport to Shirogane, one she happens to be rather good at, but there's no real added significance to her. Racing is something her classmates dreamed of doing and many of them really desire to win races, which is something Shirogane really doesn't have. Instead, she has an absurdly high threshold for acceptable training and rather high standard for adequate.

Because from what I understand, this is a fundamentally alien perspective for an uma to have. Uma are born to run - partially in body, but more deeply in spirit, reborn from souls that wished with all their hearts to race once again. But Tanya was born with no such dream fueling her at the core.
Shirogane does have an urge to run as an Umamusume. She does not have an urge to race. There is a strong instinct in her for getting from point A to point B as fast as possible, but it is not in a race.

It's not to say she'll slack, Shirogane will put her usual Tanyaness into her training but she just won't improve at the same rate as her peers do, and eventually she's going to hit a wall and she's either going to have to find the will and passion to truly run, or her career is going to crash and she'll never rise out of the ranks of mediocrity. She'll just be "average".
I think it'd be more like she gets less stats and skill points for running races, but is basically immune to negative effects and has a very stable mood. Her initial career goals would a long list of lower graded races, but you can convince her try some of the bigger name ones.

If I remember right she can still somewhat use magic, if she did, would she have won or just made it a lot closer?
She would have needed a computation orb to amplify her speed enough to win the race. With her instinctive magic it does not have as significant of an effect.

Honestly, I think it would be an Uma like Super Creek that would be more focused on making sure Shirogane got enough to eat. Oguri Cap has too much of a risk getting distracted eating her own food.
Another thing that might freak out other umas is Shirogane's willingness to eat things that taste bad or are tasteless if it will help her.
"If you consume it quickly then you don't have to worry about taste.

I see, learning how to Desire Victory without drawing on her trauma is what will give Orzeł access to the Guts rework
Or maybe she won't desire victory unless she gets sucked into past life trauma.
 
It's not to say she'll slack, Shirogane will put her usual Tanyaness into her training but she just won't improve at the same rate as her peers do, and eventually she's going to hit a wall and she's either going to have to find the will and passion to truly run, or her career is going to crash and she'll never rise out of the ranks of mediocrity. She'll just be "average".

The Salaryman was never "average". He came in second place in pretty much everything he ever tried his hand at, remember? Unless we're suggesting that whoever beat him in X activity is the only person involved who had "will and passion" then it's ridiculous to say that she needs that herself to be exceptional. If the past holds true then she'll need to find that "will and passion" eventually if she wants to stop being runner-up, but I dare you to look me in the eyes and tell me a racer who comes in 2nd all the time is average. I would argue consistency is just as valuable as will and passion, and the Salaryman canonically has superhuman consistency.
 
I know it's different universe, but Tanya killed a lot of horses, even if by accident. But during the war a lot armies still used horses, especially the ones who didn't modernized yet. Would be funny if she had conceptual murder aura when she gets serious.
 
I know it's different universe, but Tanya killed a lot of horses, even if by accident. But during the war a lot armies still used horses, especially the ones who didn't modernized yet. Would be funny if she had conceptual murder aura when she gets serious.

Unlikely, Shirogane has had no difficulties interacting with other Umas at school and was apparently well liked by them.
 
Shirogane does have a desire to win, for the money. On the other hand she indeed does not have a strong desire to reach for the top, because she knows most top runners have fairly short careers.
i had an idea that Shirogane should start her own fan site early to kick start her retirement fund, where shes posts POV races and have a monthly donation system (with the hope that some people forgets to cancel the payments) and end up unknowingly being an 'Kuudere' Race Star
 
i had an idea that Shirogane should start her own fan site early to kick start her retirement fund, where shes posts POV races
Maybe she could post 360 degrees pov videos of her races, then transition over to a VR equivalent for those who want to experience it.
 

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