Question regarding the new UK law

[Trek]

How does qq plan to deal with the age verification, will it only be set up for uk users?

 

[Celer]

Edit: 1 is wrong, see the thread marked admin response.

1. It seems to apply (drawing off https://www.hsfkramer.com/en_US/insights/key-topics/who-is-caught-by-the-osa).
2. The only realistic option is blocking UK users. Storing IDs safely is hard (see Tea). Verifying them is hard, expensive, or both.
3. In related news, VPN demand from Brits has shot up: Proton is frequently recommended.
4. The US and other countries will not be impressed if British courts try to declare that IP blocking is inadequate without flagrant evidence of deliberate violation (like offering services in London) (this one is just my judgement).
5. I am somewhat optimistic that this abomination of a law will be scaled back at some point in the future.

My apologies to the mods if this goes over the line of politics or current events: I see no other way to discuss the issue.

 

[TikTikKobold]

I'm new here, but isn't this a rule 8 thing?

 

[searcher8]

I mean technically yes, but it's also directly relevant to the user experience of the website, so asking the staff about this is probably warranted.

 

[Vanbers]

I'm new here, but isn't this a rule 8 thing?

Click to shrink...

Technically it is, but it's also something that directly affects a portion of the site's userbase ability to actually use the site.

 

[ultima333]

QuestionableQuesting is not hosted in the UK - as such, it is not immediately subject to the UK's Online Safety Act.
While the OSA does add stipulations for some non-UK based sites, these are for sites that have a "Link to the UK"

Spoiler: Criteria for Link to the UK

Source: https://www.hsfkramer.com/en_US/insights/key-topics/who-is-caught-by-the-osa

1. The service has a significant amount of UK users
- We are small enough that we fall outside of all of the major categorizations, which start at the hundreds of thousands of UK users- we hardly have 100k Daily Active Users period, and the UK residents are far and away from the majority here.

2. The service has UK users as a target market
- QuestionableQuesting has no revenue stream outside of user donations- we do not run advertisements, we do not charge users for features, and we do not sell licensed or official merchandise (that one year's April fool's joke was a 'design your own' mug/bottle site).

3. The service poses a material risk of harm to UK users
- They do provide a list of what they consider illegal harms, and it's stuff that is already against the rules of the site and covered by existing United States law (where we are hosted). We don't host such content.


As such, we have no plans to make any configuration nor rules changes for the UK Online Safety Act.
Or as some might say: "Bollocks to that, now get back to wanking."

 

[Count Nebula]

QuestionableQuesting is not hosted in the UK - as such, it is not immediately subject to the UK's Online Safety Act.
While the OSA does add stipulations for some non-UK based sites, these are for sites that have a "Link to the UK"

Spoiler: Criteria for Link to the UK

View attachment 446
Source: https://www.hsfkramer.com/en_US/insights/key-topics/who-is-caught-by-the-osa

1. The service has a significant amount of UK users
- We are small enough that we fall outside of all of the major categorizations, which start at the hundreds of thousands of UK users- we hardly have 100k Daily Active Users period, and the UK residents are far and away from the majority here.

2. The service has UK users as a target market
- QuestionableQuesting has no revenue stream outside of user donations- we do not run advertisements, we do not charge users for features, and we do not sell licensed or official merchandise (that one year's April fool's joke was a 'design your own' mug/bottle site).

3. The service poses a material risk of harm to UK users
- They do provide a list of what they consider illegal harms, and it's stuff that is already against the rules of the site and covered by existing United States law (where we are hosted). We don't host such content.


As such, we have no plans to make any configuration nor rules changes for the UK Online Safety Act.
Or as some might say: "Bollocks to that, now get back to wanking."

Click to shrink...

Phew. Almost thought I'd have to boot Death Stranding for QQ. That would be the day.

 

[Exaninja]

As such, we have no plans to make any configuration nor rules changes for the UK Online Safety Act.
Or as some might say: "Bollocks to that, now get back to wanking."

Click to shrink...

Yayyyyyyyyy


Now that's a statement I can get behind

 

[D'znn-Xy'lll MetaChthonia]

4. The US and other countries will not be impressed if British courts try to declare that IP blocking is inadequate without flagrant evidence of deliberate violation (like offering services in London) (this one is just my judgement).

Click to shrink...

Speaking of that:
It was actually brought up in another Thread that a report was submitted to SCOTUS about DSA and the Australia thing and the like infringing on US sovereignty and US Rights by dictating the Media and Speech of the entire planet especially for US based companies. So there's that as a fun little thing and throwing a conundrum for the US to puzzle out. Assuming they even acknowledge it. The report mentions "The censorship is largely one-sided, almost uniformly targeting political conservatives." so they might given how that side of the US Politic has become but it's still a weirdly apolitically uniting concern for either. There's also various political factions in the US that want their own Censorship needing to occupy the seat other countries are already in and their Censorship gets in the way of those faction's ability to establish their own. So it's downright bizarro for me to be found on the same side I have been opposed to for my entire adult life and half of my teenage one even if for differing Reasons. They're trying to turn the Internet into an Intranet but with all the things the current Internet already possesses.

But, benefits of having a tiny law-abiding Site from a country that was ultra purityrannical a century ago and now merely pseudo-purityrannical. So very easy to slip through cracks and crevices into the warm moist center of other country's Internet without anyone noticing or caring much. Even better when the NSFW parts are informally Known outside the Site rather then Publicly available.

5. I am somewhat optimistic that this abomination of a law will be scaled back at some point in the future.

Click to shrink...

Started the year getting a refresher on how the US does Government and now getting a crash course on how the UK does theirs. Apparently petition have stages of how serious they need to be taken and at 100,000 signatures it's supposed to be seriously considered(? Citation Needed... I'm not in the UK, been to the UK, or live on the same side of the planet as the UK; don't look to me for this). After around 400,000 they got a response. To paraphrase: "Fuck you, no" and "you all are pedophiles".

So might take a longer time of pressuring them or a change in whomever is the controlling party. Dunno how things work in the gray isles so can't say what could be done and how much control the Public has.